New HMs/HM Types?...

[Savage X]

Sorry if this should be in the game play ideas thread but there is a lot of topics like this, like the berries one...and I think it could be a good conversation.

So do you think there will be new HMs? If so what would they do? Or what would you want a HM for? Also do you think there could be new types. I'd like to see a electric or dark HM....but I don't know what for. Maybe a dark one could let you get through one of those buildings with ghosts or something?

Okay discuss.

I guess close if this shouldn't be here....

 

[Gangar]

I don't care what the new HMs are, just get rid of some Waterfall and dive, or at least one, and get some new typed HMs.

Here's a list for anyone who needs it.

HM1-Cut-Normal
HM2-Fly-Flying
HM3-Surf-Water
HM4-Strength-Normal
HM5-Flash-Normal?
HM6-Rock Smash-Fighting
HM7-Waterfall-Water
HM8-Dive-Water

 

[sails17]

I don't think they'll be any new ones, maybe a "psychic" one which lets you place objects in different places, not boulders, but like metal and crap, could have something to do with the game.

 

[Savage X]

Yeah. Waterfall is kind of stupid. Maybe you can use a surf board like you can use a bike to get up the hill things on land. Wouldn't make sense in real life...surfing UP a waterfall (or even down) but it would match the Mach (?) bike in the game.

Off Topic: Yeah, flash is normal....but it should be fire....right?

 

[Silver Dragonair]

I think HM's should be gotten rid of entirely. They are the piece of crap in pokemon exsistance that mess up your movesets..

V_V

 

[Meganium Ex]

No, the TMs will be the same because you can trade between R/S/E/F/L and D/P, so if you attacha TM to one of your Pokémon in R/S/E/F/L, it wouldn't change when its transsfered to D/P. Since Pokémon in R/B/Y couldn't hold TMs, it couldn't stop GF from making new TMs/HMs

Since you can't make Pokémon hold HMs, though, there might be different ones, but all I want is for GF to get rid of the ANNOYING FLASH AND WATERFUL GODDAMNIT :<

 

[Savage X]

I think HM's should be gotten rid of entirely. They are the piece of crap in pokemon exsistance that mess up your movesets..

V_V

Yeah, but we need some of them. If they keep putting in little trees we need cut. And who doesn't take advantage of surf and fly?

 

[Edux]

No, the TMs will be the same because you can trade between R/S/E/F/L and D/P, so if you attacha TM to one of your Pokémon in R/S/E/F/L, it wouldn't change when its transsfered to D/P. Since Pokémon in R/B/Y couldn't hold TMs, it couldn't stop GF from making new TMs/HMs:<

Well, they can put +50 Tm's with other numeration (we have 50TM's, they can include the old ones and also make new, TM51, TM52...TM100), maybe they just can ban the attached TM's in trades or even they can change the TM contain after Trade (Example TM01 in RSE is Focus Punch, in DP TM01 is Meteoric Swarm [let's suppose] so when u change a TM01 from RSE to DP it automatically change to Meteoric Swarm [and viceversa])

 

[911~Dry_Bones~]

I say new HMs are in demand. Get rid of Flash, it's never been all that great unless you go into lower cave levels, that's about it. They need a Fire HM as well, like something that could melt obstacles, such as metal slabs, similar to what sails17 was saying. We need more obstacles that are challenging, and more HMs to help solve them. That psychic HM sounds like an excellent idea too sails.

 

[WarriorPrince]

That would be awsome I'd buy I buch of Tm's that were useless in the #rd gen games and trade them over to D/p where they would rock

 

[Savage X]

I say new HMs are in demand. Get rid of Flash, it's never been all that great unless you go into lower cave levels, that's about it. They need a Fire HM as well, like something that could melt obstacles, such as metal slabs, similar to what sails17 was saying. We need more obstacles that are challenging, and more HMs to help solve them. That psychic HM sounds like an excellent idea too sails.

Yeah, I agree 100% there. To start flash could have been fire...but it would still be semi-useless.

 

[Meganium Ex]

Yeah, I agree 100% there. To start flash could have been fire...but it would still be semi-useless.

Why Fire? Electric would be better, since it is learned by all Electric types (isn't it?) but some fire types can't. Also, Electric represents light, which is is what Flash does - make light

 

[Savage X]

True, but, in one of the like very first episodes doesn't Charmander use his tail to pretty much "flash" for Ash? It's like when the power goes out; you use a candle. But I know what you mean. Cause you could use a flashlight too.

 

[mewfanforlife]

It'd be nice if there were multiple Hms that could do the same job in the field, but had different effects in battle.

 

[Meganium Ex]

It'd be nice if there were multiple Hms that could do the same job in the field, but had different effects in battle.

I kinda thing the opposite. It'd be better if there was one HM, let's say Surf, that always does the same thing in battle, but it let's you ride on water, climb waterfalls, and go to the bottoms of the sea

 

[ilabb]

Cut should be a bug attack (people might actually use it then, the most practical replacements are Silver Wind with 5pp, 5 more attack, and 5% more accurate or HP Bug which is nigh impossible to get in the games and have it have a high attack), Strength should be rock... it does THROW A ROCK AT THE OPPONENT after all (either that or fighting), and Flash should be electric.

They won't change them, though, since they had 2 opportunities to do so already :/

With the apparent wintery-reigons appearing in Diamond and Pearl, I can see an ice HM appearing. Maybe something like "Skate" that gives you control moving on ice instead of sliding around aimlessly.

 

[duelistXmist]

I think HM's should be gotten rid of entirely. They are the piece of crap in pokemon exsistance that mess up your movesets..

V_V

agreed except for surf ...

 

[Deucalion]

If they make just 16 more HMs we'll have to have an entite team of HM slaves, damnit! And they're already 33% of the way there! Fear the HM slave!

 

[Gangar]

agreed except for surf ...

What about fly? I'd die without it. And I'd never go to Fortree city again. I hate the rainy routes. *shudders*

If they make just 16 more HMs we'll have to have an entite team of HM slaves, damnit! And they're already 33% of the way there! Fear the HM slave!

I think you're joking, but I doubt they would ever make that many. I usually only put the HM moves Cut, Fly, Surf, and occasionally Strength/Rock Smash(depending on version) on my main team. Then I have some other pokemon that are decently trained, but not that good, and teach them the rest. I only take them out when needed. In Emerald I have a Tentacruel with Surf, Dive, and Waterfall, and I switch it with my Ludicolo(w/ surf) when needed. This gets rid of most of my HM slave problem.

 

[Savage X]

I don't mind having like level 5 HM slaves. Keep them in the P.C. and take them out when needed. No biggie.