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New Mega Evolutions Discussion Thread

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StoneCold Destroyer

Hidden in the Sand
Imagine.....Mega Wailord....
 

thatdude53

Well-Known Member
Imagine.....Mega Wailord....

I don't know what a good ability would be but I hope it's stats would be:
Attack:90+10=100
Defense: 45+50=95
Special Attack: 90+10=100
Special Defense:45+50=95
Speed:60-20=40
 

Aielyn

Well-Known Member
Except she has four Dragon moves through various means and no Fairy moves. Dragon fits her better than Fairy does.
That may change in ORAS. Level-up moves often change between games, and there's also the move tutors that are likely to be added. This is especially true of pokemon that weren't available in Kalos by any ordinary means (transfer from Gen V was necessary).
 

Arcanineblitz

Well-Known Member
Mega seviper should be a thing (along with zangoose of course) any ideas on a decent stat spread for it assuming it stays pure poison?
 

Reshiram44

Ice Specialist
Except she has four Dragon moves through various means and no Fairy moves. Dragon fits her better than Fairy does.

Thank god you guys said it for him as I was about to go haywire lol. People need to realize just because it looks like a Fairy type doesn't mean it suits it more then Dragon. You have the factor in the moves it gets plus the egg group.
 

Arcanineblitz

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Thank god you guys said it for him as I was about to go haywire lol. People need to realize just because it looks like a Fairy type doesn't mean it suits it more then Dragon. You have the factor in the moves it gets plus the egg group.

Plus thr arguement of "its gyaradoses opposite so its mega should be fairy" kind of doesnt hold weight because if that were the case milotic would be water/electric since gyara is water/flying.
 

thatdude53

Well-Known Member
Thank god you guys said it for him as I was about to go haywire lol. People need to realize just because it looks like a Fairy type doesn't mean it suits it more then Dragon. You have the factor in the moves it gets plus the egg group.

I can understand why people want fairy though. I thought rapidash would look awesome fire/fairy. Maybe with pixilate as it's ability or something more beneficial. It's stat spread could be attack:125(25) defense:100(30) special attack:same special defense:100(20) speed:130(25).

But then I remember it has nothing in common with fairies.
 

WaterMasterDD

Water Trainer
To be honest, I don't see why Milotic needs to gain a second typing at all if it Mega Evolves. I'd just be happy for my favourite Pokémon to get a Mega Evolution.
 

Lugar

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I'm assuming MegaMetagross ability is levitate,probably cause he's flying in the screenshots,anything about his typing though?
 

gamer_legend

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I'm assuming MegaMetagross ability is levitate,probably cause he's flying in the screenshots,anything about his typing though?

Doubt it is levitate unless Nintendo are incredibly stupid. Metagross is supposed to float using magnetism hence why it has Magnet Rise. Nintendo so far actually so a decent job of giving Pokemon appropriate abilities for the most part and giving Metagross levitate would be massively, massively rediculous.
 

gamer_legend

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It could be possible we get beldum pre-E4 & get the mega-stone post E4

It's possible but I doubt they'd give them separately. It does seem extremely likely the players will get the Mega Bangle sometime before the Elite 4 (My guess would be in Mossdeep Space Centre). BTW I want to give your Pokemon team a round of applause.
 

Aielyn

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Mega seviper should be a thing (along with zangoose of course) any ideas on a decent stat spread for it assuming it stays pure poison?
Personally, I think it should get almost everything fed into its Speed stat. It's a snake associated with fighting against mongooses, so it should be capable of incredible speed, when needed. Perhaps give it a boost of 80 to its speed, and then 10 to each of its attack stats...

... and then, as a counterpoint, make Zangoose's defenses a lot bulkier - perhaps +5 to Attack, +5 to Special Attack, and then +45 to each of its defenses.

Mind you, I'm not much for the competitive scene, so this is from the "what would make sense for the pokemon" angle, rather than "what would make a well-balanced pokemon" angle.
 

gamer_legend

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Personally, I think it should get almost everything fed into its Speed stat. It's a snake associated with fighting against mongooses, so it should be capable of incredible speed, when needed. Perhaps give it a boost of 80 to its speed, and then 10 to each of its attack stats...

... and then, as a counterpoint, make Zangoose's defenses a lot bulkier - perhaps +5 to Attack, +5 to Special Attack, and then +45 to each of its defenses.

Mind you, I'm not much for the competitive scene, so this is from the "what would make sense for the pokemon" angle, rather than "what would make a well-balanced pokemon" angle.

The problem with giving Zangoose a mega form is presumably to show its dominance over Seviper but the problem is it's normal form kind of already does that with having a higher attack stat and 2 abilities which benefit from being poisoned. Essentially you can't really upgrade Zangoose without updating Seviper aswell.
 

Mr.Munchlax

Great Ball Rank Trainer
The problem with giving Zangoose a mega form is presumably to show its dominance over Seviper but the problem is it's normal form kind of already does that with having a higher attack stat and 2 abilities which benefit from being poisoned. Essentially you can't really upgrade Zangoose without updating Seviper aswell.
Though you're right about how they should give both Zangoose and Seviper a mega evolution rather than one or the other, they could just give Mega Zangoose its hidden ability (Toxic Boost) since they did the same thing with Mega Blaziken. They could also give Mega Zangoose Poison Heal since it's another poison benefit ability it can't naturally learn
 

Bakphoon™

Heated Fury
There's absolutely no reason for Milotic to receive dragon typing. Just because it's in that egg group doesn't mean it necessarily needs the type. Water/Fairy is more fitting since it is the polar opposite of Gyarados who is Water/Dark. Gyarados is the Atrocious Pokemon which means wicked, which would contribute to the dark typing. Milotic is the Tender Pokemon which means caring and kind which would be more fitting for a Fairy type rather than a Dragon type.

What? Milotic does not even get a fairy move if I am right. It resembles a dragon to me, too. Fairy isn't bad but it getting no fairy moves completely ruins the idea.
 

Aielyn

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The problem with giving Zangoose a mega form is presumably to show its dominance over Seviper but the problem is it's normal form kind of already does that with having a higher attack stat and 2 abilities which benefit from being poisoned. Essentially you can't really upgrade Zangoose without updating Seviper aswell.
I suggested that they both get mega forms. I also didn't bother to address abilities, since I was responding to somebody asking about stat changes.

I'd probably give Seviper something like, say, Rough Skin (since Zangoose would tend to use contact moves). But I'd really like some sort of new ability (if there's new mega evolutions, there's nothing stopping the games from having added abilities), something along the lines of "Fighting Spirit", which would cause all moves to do extra damage to pokemon that are weak to Fighting (which, of course, Zangoose is one) - perhaps 50% more damage relative to what they'd normally do; and then a decrease of 33% if the pokemon is resistant to fighting.

But then, it's not a big deal, if Seviper gets a big speed boost, because it makes the two fit together more "naturally" - after all, it looks like Zangoose has been attacked by Seviper, not the other way around; it doesn't make sense for Zangoose to be the faster one.

What? Milotic does not even get a fairy move if I am right. It resembles a dragon to me, too. Fairy isn't bad but it getting no fairy moves completely ruins the idea.
There are multiple ways to address that, some of which I mentioned above. Give it Pixilate, and all of its Normal type moves become Fairy type. Alternatively, give it Fairy type moves in its ORAS learnable moves, since they don't have to be the same as in XY. Or just let it happen, and think of it as being kind of like the state that Gyarados had been in for quite a while.
 
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Rakurai

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Mega Metagross has Tough Claws, according to various JP sources. Seems fair enough when considering how much it's gotten nerfed since its introduction, plus all the other megas it has to compete with.

If the thing gets enough of a speed increase to sweep without Agility, it's going to be a monster, no doubts about it.
 
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gamer_legend

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I suggested that they both get mega forms. I also didn't bother to address abilities, since I was responding to somebody asking about stat changes.

I'd probably give Seviper something like, say, Rough Skin (since Zangoose would tend to use contact moves). But I'd really like some sort of new ability (if there's new mega evolutions, there's nothing stopping the games from having added abilities), something along the lines of "Fighting Spirit", which would cause all moves to do extra damage to pokemon that are weak to Fighting (which, of course, Zangoose is one) - perhaps 50% more damage relative to what they'd normally do; and then a decrease of 33% if the pokemon is resistant to fighting.

But then, it's not a big deal, if Seviper gets a big speed boost, because it makes the two fit together more "naturally" - after all, it looks like Zangoose has been attacked by Seviper, not the other way around; it doesn't make sense for Zangoose to be the faster one.


There are multiple ways to address that, some of which I mentioned above. Give it Pixilate, and all of its Normal type moves become Fairy type. Alternatively, give it Fairy type moves in its ORAS learnable moves, since they don't have to be the same as in XY. Or just let it happen, and think of it as being kind of like the state that Gyarados had been in for quite a while.

Aielyn sorry about that buddy I did misread that. You're right. I suspect Toxic Boost would be...kind of unnecessary as Mongoose while immune to many types of venom don't typically benefit from being bitten though they do fight ferociously when they are so I think it's 2 current abilities would be fine. As for Seviper if you're gonna upgrade it I think you're looking more at secondary typing (possibly ground) to make it stronger and just make it bigger and more evil looking.
 
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