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New "out-of-the-way" facilities

Eszett

one love
We've had the Power Plant and the Seafoam Islands in R/B/Y, the two Towers and the Whirl Islands in G/S/C, and New Mauville and the Sky Tower in R/S/E (though in that last game the Sky Tower wasn't all that much out of the way).

So, what quirky facilities are you hoping will make their way into this game that aren't necessary for quest completion but still make a good diversion?

Allow me to start by suggesting an abandoned toy factory for one place. It would contain a couple of Ghosts within it, as well as the Rattata equivalent of this generation in addition to a pure-Steel-type wind-up toy Pokemon found uncommonly within this expanse. There would be several dilapidated conveyor belts within this complex, and without supplying them power you can only go so far within the factory. That can be alleviated through the use of a certain Electric move on the main power grid in Shinou.

Once you complete that, there are several switches in the facility that change the direction of these conveyor belts, allowing you to explore further into this labyrinth. Eventually, after flipping several switches and riding the conveyor belts, you will gain access to the basement of the factory. In here you find several warp panels like those found in the Game Corner Basement, but there's a trick here: you need to watch out for the holes in the ground, otherwise you need to start all over from the beginning in the sub-basement of the facility (but it's not too hard to figure out). Also on these floors, you will be able to find your version-exclusive Pokemon here, either one of a nutcracker for Diamond or a matryoshka doll for Pearl.

After completing the Warp Panel adventure, you will find the key item called Blueprints - when you read it, it seems to describe how to construct a certain type of Pokeball out of wood, and it gives the address of a certain facility from where this blueprint was made. Upon arriving there, that man will direct you to the President of this generation's equivalent of Silph Co., and when you give the blueprints to that man, he will thank you for returning to him these long-lost instructions. The next day, you will be able to purchase Wood Balls at the Pokemarts, which serve to make it easier to catch Pokemon that share a type with the Pokemon you have out, increasing in effectiveness from 1x to 2.5x.
 

TTar-X

<-Don't wake him up!
Damn Ez I was thinking the same thing LoL. The 1st "out of the way" facility that came to mind was an abandoned factory that is infested with Grimers, Koffings, and Gulpins or something like that.
I can't really think of anything else. Maybe a sewage system? :-/
 

malcolm_n

Pokemon Collector
How about a Different Power plant. Instead of electricity, it's a geothermal plant. You could encounter several fire pokemon (such as Magmar, slugma and a new fire pokemon), some poison types (grimer, muk, koffing, weezing), and some ground types (numel and something new). You could also use a new fire/water type pokemon with an ability to surf on Lava out of battle, and in battle it's water moves have a 20% chance of burning opponents.

If the pokemon idea doesn't work, you could have large blocks of nevermeltice that you push in and dry the lava (like in XD).
Anyway, you have to use this pokemon to surf in different channels and get to the end where you can get TM 50: Overheat and try to catch a one-of version exclusive pokemon.
 

Omega Pirate

shove it up ya bum!
That idea is brilliant. Eszett, you need to be designing video games, this toy factory seems harder, and more fun, than any other 'out-of-the-way facilities' pevious games have had. New Mauville, for instance, was incredibly easy and a real let down.

I like the concept of wooden pokeballs aswell, though I don't see what the material wood has to do with same-type...ness. Wood I could see being a pokeball that specialises in either grass or ground type capture, while a different material is used for catching a pokemon of the same type, I was going to say steel but, just off the top of my head, how about a material like mithril?
 

Zora

perpetually tired
You forgot the S.S. Libra (Adv.) and Sky Pillar was not an ootw facilty.

Anyways: Rock Crater: Here is where you go to find a lot of Mountian, Cave, and Fire Pokemon. There will be seldom fire spots, mostly Mountian, and each floor you need to go through a small cave. At the bottom you will get a chance to battle something fine, or find something useful. Also you must actually create a path by using water on lava. Also it was once going to be a constuction sight, so there will be some mechanims there.
 

Eszett

one love
DriveshafT said:
That idea is brilliant. Eszett, you need to be designing video games, this toy factory seems harder, and more fun, than any other 'out-of-the-way facilities' pevious games have had. New Mauville, for instance, was incredibly easy and a real let down.

I like the concept of wooden pokeballs aswell, though I don't see what the material wood has to do with same-type...ness. Wood I could see being a pokeball that specialises in either grass or ground type capture, while a different material is used for catching a pokemon of the same type, I was going to say steel but, just off the top of my head, how about a material like mithril?
It's Pokemon, it doesn't need to make sense. I used wood because it's what this toy factory would be most likely to contain, plus the idea of a Pokeball made out of wood tickles my fancy sufficiently. :p

Thank you for the kudos.

malcolm_n, I like your twist on the traditional power plant ideas, but I don't see how Poison types fit into the mix. It could use some more Water and Rock types considering its purpose, though the concept of the Water/Fire type suits that very well as it stands. I think it doesn't need to have so many old Fire types, though, since everyone complains about how the new games never contain enough of those.

Zora, very interesting idea indeed. Perhaps the mechanisms could be used to advance yourself into far-flung branches of the area where you can get some rare items.
 

Omega Pirate

shove it up ya bum!
I had the idea of a haunted Steam Paddler. The ghosts on board are human and have their own ghost pokemon. When you enter it appears abandoned but after a few battles the boat begins to move. More battles insue and the ship finally docks. You arrive in a ghost town that seems to have been deserted since the late 1800's (this can also be seen from the clothes the ghosts on the paddler wear and the style of interior). There could be some island-only pokemon here. I could see Mime Jr. or Mr. Mime being some of them, actually ice pokemon and psychic pokemon would be the norm and in a couple of areas the obvious ghost pokemon.

From there I have no ideas.
 

TTar-X

<-Don't wake him up!
I think the Abondoned Ship in RSE would quialify as an "out the way facility". Speaking of I wouldn't mind a sunken ship that you can explore with Dive and find hidden treasures. it woukd be optional of course.
 

Omega Pirate

shove it up ya bum!
The ship in R/S/E did incorporate Dive elements, but a sunken ship would be more exciting.

Edit: How did I know Eszett's Nutcracker and Matryoshka doll would make it in :D.
 
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TTar-X

<-Don't wake him up!
DriveshafT said:
The ship in R/S/E did incorporate Dive elements, but a sunken ship would be more exciting.

Edit: How did I know Eszett's Nutcracker and Matryoshka doll would make it in :D.

Yes but Dive wasn't required to explore most of the ship. A sunken ship would require Dive to explore it at all. ;-/
 

Dark_Force

Well-Known Member
RSE didnt have nearly enough out of the way facilities imo. Abanadoned ship had nothing in it (and finding a 'scanner' inside was weird - i wanted treasure darnit!) - new mauville was pretty cool, but sky pillar was pretty boring.
 

Char1016

Pokemon Communist
PokeBall Factory, solve the problem and you get some free pokeballs. :D

Maybe an old tower which was abandoned because so many powerful pokemon lived there.
 

AJ Flibble

Emohawk
That would be more like the Unknown Dungeon esque place IMO.

There will be another one, hopefully associated with another legend of some sort, totally optional, where you would meet a powerful Legendary. Not quite sure what though, maybe an old cathedral of some sort? (no, they'll never do that...)
 

Mio

Belief
Interesting idea with the factory.

I was always hoping for someplace with more of an ancient feel, like the old cathedral that AJ mentioned. Maybe it could be the place you find Lucario.
 

AJ Flibble

Emohawk
Unfortunately, they'll never do it due to it possibly offending people. The ancient feel needs to be there though - that's what I liked about the Suicune legend in Crystal.
 

TTar-X

<-Don't wake him up!
Dark_Force said:
RSE didnt have nearly enough out of the way facilities imo. Abanadoned ship had nothing in it (and finding a 'scanner' inside was weird - i wanted treasure darnit!) - new mauville was pretty cool, but sky pillar was pretty boring.

I guess you forgot about TM13 Ice Beam, and the Waterstone IIRC :p
I wouldn't say it didn't have anything. It also had several scattered loose items on the floor and it was the only place to the deepseatooth/scale to help evolve Clamperl via link cable.
 

Char1016

Pokemon Communist
Dark_Force said:
RSE didnt have nearly enough out of the way facilities imo. Abanadoned ship had nothing in it (and finding a 'scanner' inside was weird - i wanted treasure darnit!) - new mauville was pretty cool, but sky pillar was pretty boring.

But without the Scanner, you could never get a Huntail or Gorebyss, unless you cheat, a thing that is bad to do.

And Ice Beam was there too.
 
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