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JVLightningLover

Veteran Trainer
somehow i forgot about torterra and stantler..thats bad. if they dont develop a new deer pokemon entirely i could see a stantler variation . but i agree , there are so many deer and antelope species they could get inspired by. i'd love a kude or an oryx but we may have to wait for an african inspired game for that

i feel like this would almost be a wasted opportunity not to do a pirate frigate bird like pokemon and i agree, id love to see that.

i agree we have a lot of butterflies already. im not saying i want one but they've taken inspiration from 2 of hawaii's state animals already. the seal and the trigger fish. i was just thinking that since the kamehameha butterfly is the state insect we might get something based off that. as well as hopefully the nene and the humpback

other pokemon i thought of:

a platypus. nothing to do with australia but i want want to see one. could be a water /poison type

sea urchin

a pillow/bed. i have no idea why but i kind of want it. not gonna happen . my weirdest desire

a hand. like thing from the adams family. just this ghostly hand wondering around a mansion.

a gryphon. not sure why they havent done this yet

As far as a platypus is concerned, I had an idea for a three stage platypus line, pure Poison until the final stage, which would be Poison/Steel. They'd be name Pugglet, Battylpus, and Chromotreme.
The lack of a sea urchin is odd, so that would be a nice addition as well.
 

Inconspicuosaurus

Bone-ified dinosaur
somehow i forgot about torterra and stantler..thats bad. if they dont develop a new deer pokemon entirely i could see a stantler variation . but i agree , there are so many deer and antelope species they could get inspired by. i'd love a kude or an oryx but we may have to wait for an african inspired game for that

i feel like this would almost be a wasted opportunity not to do a pirate frigate bird like pokemon and i agree, id love to see that.

i agree we have a lot of butterflies already. im not saying i want one but they've taken inspiration from 2 of hawaii's state animals already. the seal and the trigger fish. i was just thinking that since the kamehameha butterfly is the state insect we might get something based off that. as well as hopefully the nene and the humpback

other pokemon i thought of:

a platypus. nothing to do with australia but i want want to see one. could be a water /poison type

sea urchin

a pillow/bed. i have no idea why but i kind of want it. not gonna happen . my weirdest desire

a hand. like thing from the adams family. just this ghostly hand wondering around a mansion.

a gryphon. not sure why they havent done this yet

The platypus is my favourite animal, and it angers me that Psyduck is basically one, but doesn't even acknowledge it. I would love a proper platypus pokemon, and Water/Poison would be perfect for our only venomous mammal. EDIT: I lied. There are venomous lorises too. But "only venomous monotreme" doesn't sound as amazing.

Pyukumuku (who I seem to be mentioning a lot today) seems to take some inspiration from urchins (they are all echinoderms after all) and maybe its evo would be more like one, but if not that would be a cool thing to see in future.

I'm pretty sure Munna is supposed to be at least partially based on a pillow. It is shaped almost exactly like a pillow folded over in the middle, and it explains the floral pattern (plus association with sleep/dreaming).

I had a Ghost/Rock hand in a fakemon region I once made. It would be a cool basis for an official Pokemon one day.

Gryphon/ffin has to happen eventually. I was saying earlier in the thread it would make a great pseudo-legend.
 

storm12

Weather Bearer
Through some research I have found another possible inspiration for Morelull and possibly what it's evo may look like:


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The bright blue fungus is called Pixie's Parasol . Ironically enough this species is not luminescent like Morelull but many from the genus it belongs to(Mycena) are. Furthermore the bioluminescence of mushrooms is often called fox fire but it is also known as faerie fire. Then of cause there is the phenomena of fairy rings, though the Mycena genus isn't well known for forming them.


So anyway I believe Morelull itself may be partly based on the Pixie's parasol (It has two blue caps, though I admit this is loose given their different shape) and it's associated genus, but what if it's evo becomes more literal and it becomes something similar to Floette, but with a mushroom parasol instead of a flower?

I've had fun researching just how entwined the notion of 'faerie' has been with different fungi in many cultures across history :) it makes me love Morelull even more because of it's type combination (as well Grass and Fairy basically being my favorite types :p)
 

Wadeledge

Till all are One
Through some research I have found another possible inspiration for Morelull and possibly what it's evo may look like:


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The bright blue fungus is called Pixie's Parasol . Ironically enough this species is not luminescent like Morelull but many from the genus it belongs to(Mycena) are. Furthermore the bioluminescence of mushrooms is often called fox fire but it is also known as faerie fire. Then of cause there is the phenomena of fairy rings, though the Mycena genus isn't well known for forming them.


So anyway I believe Morelull itself may be partly based on the Pixie's parasol (It has two blue caps, though I admit this is loose given their different shape) and it's associated genus, but what if it's evo becomes more literal and it becomes something similar to Floette, but with a mushroom parasol instead of a flower?

I've had fun researching just how entwined the notion of 'faerie' has been with different fungi in many cultures across history :) it makes me love Morelull even more because of it's type combination (as well Grass and Fairy basically being my favorite types :p)

It's name is also a pormanteau of "morel" a completely different type of Mushroom native to the Midwest/Eastern United States, and "lull" for sleepiness, an obvious reference to Spore.
 

storm12

Weather Bearer
It's name is also a pormanteau of "morel" a completely different type of Mushroom native to the Midwest/Eastern United States, and "lull" for sleepiness, an obvious reference to Spore.


See, I can definitely see that, but given that none of it's other names references the morel and it really doesn't look much like it, I see it as a bit of a cringey pun, where it's named for something it really doesn't really resemble but is linked to, like Sandshrew or Patrat. I also read Morelull as more-lull too which sounds like... more lul, as in have some more lul inducing spores :p
 

Wadeledge

Till all are One
See, I can definitely see that, but given that none of it's other names references the morel and it really doesn't look much like it, I see it as a bit of a cringey pun, where it's named for something it really doesn't really resemble but is linked to, like Sandshrew or Patrat. I also read Morelull as more-lull too which sounds like... more lul, as in have some more lul inducing spores :p

You KNOW GameFreak loves their puns to work at multiple levels! lol
 

gliscor&yanmega

Well-Known Member
Bug-5(3 Evolution lines)
Dark-
Dragon-2(2 Evolution lines)
Electric-4(2 Evolution lines and a Legendary)
Fairy-6(4 Evolution lines and 2 Legendaries)
Fighting-3(2 Evolution lines)
Fire-3(3 Evolution lines)
Flying-3(3 Evolution lines)
Ghost-4(2 Evolution line and a Legendary)
Grass-5(4 Evolution lines)
Ground-4(2 Evolution line)
Ice-
Normal-7(5 Evolution lines)
Poison-1
Psychic-3(1 Evolution line and 2 Legendaries)
Rock-2(2 Evolution lines)
Steel-3(1 Evolution line, and 2 Legendaries)
Water-5(5 Evolution lines)

Didn't include Oricorio since it has no standard form, but I guess +4 to Flying and +1 to Electric, Fire, Ghost, and Psychic. Ice and Dark only have Alolan Form Pokemon so far. Hopefully they are next for reveals, and hopefully another Poison. Rock and Dragon could use at least another reveal, albeit, Rockruff's evolution is probably being revealed soon so there's that.

3 stage Pokemon:
Confirmed-Rowlet, Litten, Popplio, Pikipek, Grubbin

Prediction-Cutiefly, Drampa, Fomantis

2 stage Pokemon:
Confirmed-Yungoos

Likely-Mudbray, Stufful, Sandygast,

Prediction-Rockruff, Komala, Bounsweet, Wimpod, Salandit, Pyukumuku, Morelull, Turtonator, Crabrawler

Standalone Pokemon:
Confirmed-Solgaleo, Lunala, Magearna, Tapu Koko

Likely-Togedemaru, Oricorio, Wishiwashi

Prediction-Bruxish, Mimikyu, Comfey, Minior

Which makes 61.

Pikipek-75/110/70/50/70/120
Gumshoos-70/90/80/40/80/90
Vikavolt-70/65/80/110/75/100
Cutiefly-80/50/50/100/120/100
Rockruff-80/120/80/40/70/110
Togedemaru-70/40/70/80/70/100
Bruxish-75/70/65/90/80/80
Komala-100/100/80/80/80/50
Drampa-90/75/75/125/115/55
Bewear-90/135/75/60/70/60
Mimikyu-70/80/70/80/70/30
Wimpod-75/60/120/75/85/90
Bounsweet-85/55/75/105/95/100
Comfey-65/40/95/85/115/65
Mudsdale-90/100/130/60/70/50
Minior(Shell form)-70/50/120/50/120/70, Core form-70/50/50/120/50/140
Lurantis-70/95/65/120/85/105
Oricorio-70/80/70/80/70/80
Palossand-65/50/100/105/100/30
Wishiwashi(Solo form)-50/60/50/70/50/70 School form-50/60/70/110/110/100
Pyukumuku-80/115/75/65/95/50
Morelull-105/55/85/75/105/35
Turtonator-80/70/140/100/80/30
Crabrawler-70/140/85/40/75/70
 
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amoebo

amoeboVGC
Bug-5(3 Evolution lines)
Dark-
Dragon-2(2 Evolution lines)
Electric-5(2 Evolution lines and a Legendary)
Fairy-6(4 Evolution lines and 2 Legendaries)
Fighting-3(2 Evolution lines)
Fire-3(3 Evolution lines)
Flying-3(3 Evolution lines)
Ghost-4(2 Evolution line and a Legendary)
Grass-5(4 Evolution lines)
Ground-4(2 Evolution line)
Ice-
Normal-6(5 Evolution lines)
Poison-1
Psychic-3(1 Evolution line and 2 Legendaries)
Rock-2(2 Evolution lines)
Steel-3(1 Evolution line, and 2 Legendaries)
Water-5(5 Evolution lines)

Didn't include Oricorio since it has no standard form, but I guess +4 to Flying and +1 to Electric, Fire, Ghost, and Psychic. Ice and Dark only have Alolan Form Pokemon so far. Hopefully they are next for reveals, and hopefully another Poison. Rock and Dragon could use at least another reveal, albeit, Rockruff's evolution is probably being revealed soon so there's that.

3 stage Pokemon:
Confirmed-Rowlet, Litten, Popplio, Pikipek, Grubbin

Prediction-Cutiefly, Drampa, Fomantis

2 stage Pokemon:
Confirmed-Yungoos

Likely-Mudbray, Stufful, Sandygast,

Prediction-Rockruff, Komala, Bounsweet, Wimpod, Salandit, Pyukumuku, Morelull, Turtonator, Crabrawler

Standalone Pokemon:
Confirmed-Solgaleo, Lunala, Magearna, Tapu Koko

Likely-Togedemaru, Oricorio, Wishiwashi

Prediction-Bruxish, Mimikyu, Comfey, Minior

Which makes 61.

Pikipek-75/110/70/50/70/120
Gumshoos-70/90/80/40/80/90
Vikavolt-70/65/80/110/75/100
Cutiefly-80/50/50/100/120/100
Rockruff-80/120/80/40/70/110
Togedemaru-70/40/70/80/70/100
Bruxish-75/70/65/90/80/80
Komala-100/100/80/80/80/50
Drampa-90/75/75/125/115/55
Bewear-90/135/75/60/70/60
Mimikyu-70/80/70/80/70/30
Wimpod-75/60/120/75/85/90
Bounsweet-85/55/75/105/95/100
Comfey-65/40/95/85/115/65
Mudsdale-90/100/130/60/70/50
Minior(Shell form)-70/50/120/50/120/70, Core form-70/50/50/120/50/140
Lurantis-70/95/65/120/85/105
Oricorio-70/80/70/80/70/80
Palossand-65/50/100/105/100/30
Wishiwashi(Solo form)-50/60/50/70/50/70 School form-50/60/70/110/110/100
Pyukumuku-80/115/75/65/95/50
Morelull-105/55/85/75/105/35
Turtonator-80/70/140/100/80/30
Crabrawler-70/140/85/40/75/70


Dont we already know for a fact that Fomantis/Lurantis is a 2 stage? It makes no sense to show them both but not the last one.
 
Dont we already know for a fact that Fomantis/Lurantis is a 2 stage? It makes no sense to show them both but not the last one.

Not really, the last one could have a type change or a major cu change that makes it more hype or whatever. I don't think Fomantis will get another stage, but showing only one of its Evolutions isn't nearly as weird as what happened to Haxorus and Talonflame.
 

gliscor&yanmega

Well-Known Member
Dont we already know for a fact that Fomantis/Lurantis is a 2 stage? It makes no sense to show them both but not the last one.

We don't know for a fact. If anything, it's likely a 2 stage, but I personally feel/want it to be a 3 stage. There's no reason they can't show the first two and then have the final one either shown later or revealed in the game, they do such things all the time in some form or another.
 

JVLightningLover

Veteran Trainer
Bug-5(3 Evolution lines)
Dark-
Dragon-2(2 Evolution lines)
Electric-5(2 Evolution lines and a Legendary)
Fairy-6(4 Evolution lines and 2 Legendaries)
Fighting-3(2 Evolution lines)
Fire-3(3 Evolution lines)
Flying-3(3 Evolution lines)
Ghost-4(2 Evolution line and a Legendary)
Grass-5(4 Evolution lines)
Ground-4(2 Evolution line)
Ice-
Normal-6(5 Evolution lines)
Poison-1
Psychic-3(1 Evolution line and 2 Legendaries)
Rock-2(2 Evolution lines)
Steel-3(1 Evolution line, and 2 Legendaries)
Water-5(5 Evolution lines)

Didn't include Oricorio since it has no standard form, but I guess +4 to Flying and +1 to Electric, Fire, Ghost, and Psychic. Ice and Dark only have Alolan Form Pokemon so far. Hopefully they are next for reveals, and hopefully another Poison. Rock and Dragon could use at least another reveal, albeit, Rockruff's evolution is probably being revealed soon so there's that.

3 stage Pokemon:
Confirmed-Rowlet, Litten, Popplio, Pikipek, Grubbin

Prediction-Cutiefly, Drampa, Fomantis

2 stage Pokemon:
Confirmed-Yungoos

Likely-Mudbray, Stufful, Sandygast,

Prediction-Rockruff, Komala, Bounsweet, Wimpod, Salandit, Pyukumuku, Morelull, Turtonator, Crabrawler

Standalone Pokemon:
Confirmed-Solgaleo, Lunala, Magearna, Tapu Koko

Likely-Togedemaru, Oricorio, Wishiwashi

Prediction-Bruxish, Mimikyu, Comfey, Minior

Which makes 61.

Pikipek-75/110/70/50/70/120
Gumshoos-70/90/80/40/80/90
Vikavolt-70/65/80/110/75/100
Cutiefly-80/50/50/100/120/100
Rockruff-80/120/80/40/70/110
Togedemaru-70/40/70/80/70/100
Bruxish-75/70/65/90/80/80
Komala-100/100/80/80/80/50
Drampa-90/75/75/125/115/55
Bewear-90/135/75/60/70/60
Mimikyu-70/80/70/80/70/30
Wimpod-75/60/120/75/85/90
Bounsweet-85/55/75/105/95/100
Comfey-65/40/95/85/115/65
Mudsdale-90/100/130/60/70/50
Minior(Shell form)-70/50/120/50/120/70, Core form-70/50/50/120/50/140
Lurantis-70/95/65/120/85/105
Oricorio-70/80/70/80/70/80
Palossand-65/50/100/105/100/30
Wishiwashi(Solo form)-50/60/50/70/50/70 School form-50/60/70/110/110/100
Pyukumuku-80/115/75/65/95/50
Morelull-105/55/85/75/105/35
Turtonator-80/70/140/100/80/30
Crabrawler-70/140/85/40/75/70

It's 4 Electric-Types, not counting Oricorio and Alolan Raichu: Charjabug, Vikavolt, Togedemaru, and Tapu Koko. Also, those 6 Normal-Types are spread across 4 Evolutionary lines, not 5.

I also thought I'd mention that calculations show that Wishwashi's School Form has a minimum of Base 145 Sp. Attack (it's a beast!), Wimpod looks to already be around Base 70 Sp. Attack unevolved, and Pyukumuku has approximately Base 82 HP already, but you could could be assuming it doesn't evolve.
 

gliscor&yanmega

Well-Known Member
It's 4 Electric-Types, not counting Oricorio and Alolan Raichu: Charjabug, Vikavolt, Togedemaru, and Tapu Koko. Also, those 6 Normal-Types are spread across 4 Evolutionary lines, not 5.

I also thought I'd mention that calculations show that Wishwashi's School Form has a minimum of Base 145 Sp. Attack (it's a beast!), Wimpod looks to already be around Base 70 Sp. Attack unevolved, and Pyukumuku has approximately Base 82 HP already, but you could could be assuming it doesn't evolve.

I most likely grouped Grubbin in there by mistake for Electric types, thanks. But there are 5 Evolution Lines for Normal; Yungoos, Stufful, Drampa, Komala, and Pikipek, however, I do notice I forgot to add one to the overall total of Normal types, might have forgot to add Stufful.

If you don't mind showing where the calculations came from, it would be much appreciated.
 

JVLightningLover

Veteran Trainer
I most likely grouped Grubbin in there by mistake for Electric types, thanks. But there are 5 Evolution Lines for Normal; Yungoos, Stufful, Drampa, Komala, and Pikipek, however, I do notice I forgot to add one to the overall total of Normal types, might have forgot to add Stufful.

If you don't mind showing where the calculations came from, it would be much appreciated.

My bad, I forgot Drampa but remembered Stufful :p

As for my calcs, in the reveal trailer for Wishiwashi, it uses Htydro Pump to knock Magnezone down to a tiny sliver of HP, no more than 5%. (calc has Chandlure as a Water-Type, and Chandelure as having an 31 in Sp. Attack, while Magnezone has an IV of 0 in Sp. Def. )

252+ SpA Abomasnow Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Magnezone: 76-90 (80.8 - 95.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

There is a message displayed after Magnezone is hit, but the characters don't match-up with the usual critical hit message, nor are they yellow like they would be if a crit was landed in ORAS.

As for Wimmpod, when it battled a Murkrow, it did 43% (we know because the Murkrow is the player's) with Struggle Bug (here, I gave Murkrow it's confirmed amount of HP, and I didn't bother maxing EV's [I only did that with Wishiwash due to the extremely high damage output, as to account for the possibility of min/max values being in place], though this is a modest 31 IV Wimpod, represented by a Surskit readjusted to base 70 Sp. Attack, using Signal Beam readjusted to 50 BP):

0+ SpA Surskit Signal Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Murkrow: 19-24 (34.5 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 

esquilo09

Well-Known Member
I just hope Rockruff's evolved form rumor being a werewolf-like Pokémon is true, as well the Alolan Rattata line.
 

loverofsheep

incrediblegoodboy
I'm really really hoping Minior does evolve because there's a lot of cool possibilities for a meteor Pokemon. My ultimate hope is that maybe it's different colours have alternate evolutions but that's kind of a pipe dream considering Gamefreak hasn't been super into split evolutions lately.
 

PokeAJ

Well-Known Member
I'm really really hoping Minior does evolve because there's a lot of cool possibilities for a meteor Pokemon. My ultimate hope is that maybe it's different colours have alternate evolutions but that's kind of a pipe dream considering Gamefreak hasn't been super into split evolutions lately.

Would be cool to see it get a 3 stage where it goes from meteor to meteoroid to asteroid.
 

Kennith

Banned
I like Tapu Koko a lot. It looks pretty strong and has a cool ability. Maybe the other 3 have similar abilities?
 

R_N

Well-Known Member
I'm really really hoping Minior does evolve because there's a lot of cool possibilities for a meteor Pokemon. My ultimate hope is that maybe it's different colours have alternate evolutions but that's kind of a pipe dream considering Gamefreak hasn't been super into split evolutions lately.

We've seen 5 or 6 different colors of Minior so split-evolutions for that seems nill.

Considering the color shtick and the ability that is no doubt signature to itself, it feels very standalone.
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
I like Tapu Koko a lot. It looks pretty strong and has a cool ability. Maybe the other 3 have similar abilities?

well you could have one that activates grassy terrain and misty terrain but other than that they'd need to introduce a new terrain to have similar..
 

R_N

Well-Known Member
well you could have one that activates grassy terrain and misty terrain but other than that they'd need to introduce a new terrain to have similar..

Well, Fire Oath when used with Grass Oath has this happen
then will create a sea of fire on the side of the field of the target of the combined move for four turns. The sea of fire damages all non-Fire-type Pokémon on that side of the field for 1/8 of their maximum HP at the end of each turn; this effect is negated if it is raining.
You could probably turn this into a terrain-like effect
 
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