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JVLightningLover

Veteran Trainer
So it seems like Togedemaru will be on the rarer side if they have a QR code in the Japanese guide to find it easily.

That's not too surprising. Emolga was rare, too, only be found in Rustling Grass in B/W, and usually being the rarer encounter among the possible Rustling Mons.
 

storm12

Weather Bearer
That's what I thought too (and it probably ist he origin regardless), but the way it's specifically phrased sounds like it literally changes form based on the nectar it eats, not that each island's oricorio changed over time.

The description for Revelation Dance also specifies it's "current form"

The problem is though given that each of them are very different types how would it's learnset and tm compatiblity work? I'm also thinking they have different stat distributions (like the Eeveelutions) where Fire has a higher Attack, Electric has higher Speed, Psychic has higher HP and Ghost has higher Sp.Attack. For these reasons I dont think they will be interchangable and this would be for the better because if the species can change at will it will likely mean a lowest-common-denominator scenario in terms of stats and moves. I'd rather they had them more specialised in different areas other than type, because isn't that the point of them?
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
So are people predicting that Togedemaru will get an evolved form? or are they like me an expecting it to stay solo?
 

storm12

Weather Bearer
So are people predicting that Togedemaru will get an evolved form? or are they like me an expecting it to stay solo?

At this point given the track record of previous pika clones, it likely won't evolve. It's only real purpose is as a foil to Pikachu and aside from that I dont think it is designed with battle effectiveness in mind. Saying that Togedemaru looks like it has a better shot of actually being useable because lf it's great typing.
 

JVLightningLover

Veteran Trainer
At this point given the track record of previous pika clones, it likely won't evolve. It's only real purpose is as a foil to Pikachu and aside from that I dont think it is designed with battle effectiveness in mind. Saying that Togedemaru looks like it has a better shot of actually being useable because lf it's great typing.

It also has terrible Sp. Attack, which makes me think that it will be more focused on Attack, Defense, and Speed. That, or it will be another Pachirisu, with decent Speed and bulk but nothing else, in which case I'm hoping it will have a solid movepool (unlike poor, no Special Fairy STAB Dedenne) that will back up a support role.
 

lunis the ogre

Ogre of the gourd
The problem is though given that each of them are very different types how would it's learnset and tm compatiblity work? I'm also thinking they have different stat distributions (like the Eeveelutions) where Fire has a higher Attack, Electric has higher Speed, Psychic has higher HP and Ghost has higher Sp.Attack. For these reasons I dont think they will be interchangable and this would be for the better because if the species can change at will it will likely mean a lowest-common-denominator scenario in terms of stats and moves. I'd rather they had them more specialised in different areas other than type, because isn't that the point of them?

If it does have interchangeable forms, it could easily be handled like rotom and his form changes.
 

storm12

Weather Bearer
It also has terrible Sp. Attack, which makes me think that it will be more focused on Attack, Defense, and Speed. That, or it will be another Pachirisu, with decent Speed and bulk but nothing else, in which case I'm hoping it will have a solid movepool (unlike poor, no Special Fairy STAB Dedenne) that will back up a support role.

*see's Lightning Rod [eye twitch], why Gamefreak??* This is like Moxie Pyroar again :L (one specific usage in Entrainment passing is NOT justification). At least it has Iron Barbs and likely a decent defense based on it's appearance. *sigh* just once Gamefreak, once make a decent Pikaclone and don't screw it over (not that they care).

If it does have interchangeable forms, it could easily be handled like rotom and his form changes.

A single signature move of the relevant type? Oh wait, this is basically what Revelation Dance is :L *heavy sigh*. Im sure I've seen Sensu form use Will-O-Wisp and Pom Pom use some random electric attack though?? If their only STAB option is Revelation Dance that is pretty lame.
 
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JVLightningLover

Veteran Trainer
*see's Lightning Rod [eye twitch], why Gamefreak??* This is like Moxie Pyroar again :L (one specific usage in Entrainment passing is NOT justification). At least it has Iron Barbs and likely a decent defense based on it's appearance. *sigh* just once Gamefreak, once make a decent Pikaclone and don't screw it over (not that they care).

Mixed Moxie Pyroar is a fun gimmick, but you're right, GF can be a bit ridiculous with Abilities. For example, giving Stunfisk Limber when it was already slow and difficult to paralyze, then slapping built-in Limber onto all Electric-Types. They only way Lightning Rod benefits it more than Motor Drive or Volt Absorb is in the unlikely scenario that it gets Nasty Plot.

Still, other Electric Rodents have ended up with stuff like Fake Out, Follow Me, Encore, etc., so I'm sure it will have its place in the competitive scene. I'm also hopeful (but wouldn't be surprised if GF doesn't do this) that it will get Spikes and Swords Dance by virtue of its quills, as well as Rapid Spin. Swords Dance + Wild Charge + Iron Head + Hopefully Some Decent Coverage Move would be great, and having what is essentially a hybrid of Magnezone, Excadrill, and Pachirisu would actually be a lot of fun.

Still, we'll have to wait and see. I am expecting it to get some play during VGC 2017, though, seeing as it will probably only be Alola Dex Mons, so it likely won't have to face as much competition as a Lightning Rod user.
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
*see's Lightning Rod [eye twitch], why Gamefreak??* This is like Moxie Pyroar again :L (one specific usage in Entrainment passing is NOT justification). At least it has Iron Barbs and likely a decent defense based on it's appearance. *sigh* just once Gamefreak, once make a decent Pikaclone and don't screw it over (not that they care).


Well this time around given there is a new Raichu theres even less reason to focus on a new pikaclone than usual.
 

Orphalesion

Well-Known Member
So it seems like Togedemaru will be on the rarer side if they have a QR code in the Japanese guide to find it easily.

Doesn't really bother me, I don't like any of the Pika-Clones (or Pikachu itself for that matter). Don't really get them, they all look very similar, are all electric types and don't even evolve. Why don't they evolve?
 

WolfCypher

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Doesn't really bother me, I don't like any of the Pika-Clones (or Pikachu itself for that matter). Don't really get them, they all look very similar, are all electric types and don't even evolve. Why don't they evolve?

Why can't they at least us Light Ball? Why does it have to be exclusive to literally only Pikachu?

Jibanyan is the Pikachu of Yokai Watch and it has literally thrice as many Jiban-clones as Pikachu has Pika-clones, and all of Jibanyan's stat buff held items are inclusive to its Jiban-clones.
 

JVLightningLover

Veteran Trainer
Where can I read about this rumor?

I'd link you, but we're supposed to refrain from posting/discussing 4chan "leaks" unless they have significant backing, which that "leak" lacks. In fact, there seem to be a lot of holes in it already.
 

Dragon Pulse

Well-Known Member
I'd link you, but we're supposed to refrain from posting/discussing 4chan "leaks" unless they have significant backing, which that "leak" lacks. In fact, there seem to be a lot of holes in it already.

Ah, okay. I'll go find it. Some of these leaks though are quite believable, while some other parts of them are not believable. I don't know what to think anymore, lol.
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
Given that it's currently shown to mimic Pikachu i'm hoping Mimikyu can at least learn some electric type moves. I know it's not an electric type but it'd be a nice touch.
 

Wadeledge

Till all are One
Ah, okay. I'll go find it. Some of these leaks though are quite believable, while some other parts of them are not believable. I don't know what to think anymore, lol.

If Serebii posts it on the main site it's probably real. He's not going to risk his credibility with the community without doing his due-diligence. It should be noted that he has said on twitter that he thinks the Starter evo leak is probably real but doesn't want to draw the wrath of Nintendo due to the apparent take-down notices.

Given that it's currently shown to mimic Pikachu i'm hoping Mimikyu can at least learn some electric type moves. I know it's not an electric type but it'd be a nice touch.

Seems possible. It's typing does tend to get broad movepools.
 

Bus

Well-Known Member
It'd be kind of funny if Mimikyu evolves to a larger form and ends up trying to look like Raichu. They could have some fun with the dex entry saying something like; "Wishing to be like its idol, Raichu, Mimikmi gorged on extra fluffy pancakes and often has trouble fitting in its Raichu cosplay"
 

gliscor&yanmega

Well-Known Member
Curious if they'll make another no weakness Pokemon again. Sableye and Spiritomb had the glory until Gen 6 when they got a Fairy weakness, and now only Eelektross(And it's pre evolutions) remains as being the only Pokemon without any weaknesses; albeit, only because of it's Ability(If it loses it then it's weak to Ground).

As it stands, it's impossible for any type combination to result in no weaknesses now, but like with Eelektross, there are current possibilities with the use of Abilities:
-Obviously, another Electric with Levitate, but rather something different.

-Water/Ground with Sap Sipper. Sap Sipper is "Herbivorous" in the Japanese games, as such, only really need a herbivore that lives on land and water, and the Marine Iguana seems like a great candidate. I have no issues with having another Lizard this Gen.

-Poison/Dark with Levitate. Just give it to Skuntank/Drapion. There are probably plenty Insects that could fit this, albeit, they'll have to not have the Bug type which would be a bit odd, but...Drapion. But to drive away from Drapion, how about a Jellyfish, albeit, again, odd not to have Water type but whatever. I would suggest the Portuguese man o' war over Jellyfish though(It looks like one but it's not), just for something different, but there are a lot of interesting Jellyfishes to use too. Non-Animal is probably a good choice for the typing too, or even some sort of mythical creature, nothing really comes to mind though.

-Bug/Steel with Flash Fire. Might be a difficult thing to think or make without putting in some personal touches. But there seems to be at least four Insects/Insect-like that could fit. Bombardier Beetle, being a Beetle it's easy enough to just give it armor to give it the Steel type, as for Flash Fire, it's more due to the fact they have a hot spray, so to put a personal touch, have some sort of filter that absorbs Fire attacks to power it up. Pompeii Worm, they have a bunch of Bacteria on them which looks like fur in a sense, and it's thought to provide insulation, so the Bacterial could be expanded on to be a armor of sort and allow it to have Steel type, and they can survive in very hot water so the Bacteria armor could serve as a means to absorb Fire attacks. There is also the Sahara Desert Ant, the Steel type is the tricky part but looking at Durant, it's possible to just give it armor too, it can survive the heat on land far better than anything else which can give it reason to have Flash Fire, also, they have to keep moving while in extreme heats or they will fry, so could be fun to see it as a Pokemon where it's constantly moving. And finally, Tardigrade, now the only thing with this one is that is can survive the extreme heat and cold; more than any other Animal, so seems better to give it an Ability that reflects on that(And other features about it that show it can survive in all sorts of different conditions). The Beetle I say works out the best since it uses a hot spray to attack already, but they all should be fine.

That's all the possibilities using the current Abilities. There's of course more possibilities if new Abilities come to grant new immunities in some form.
 

BlitzGirl41

Well-Known Member
Doesn't really bother me, I don't like any of the Pika-Clones (or Pikachu itself for that matter). Don't really get them, they all look very similar, are all electric types and don't even evolve. Why don't they evolve?

Same here, you aren't alone. I just never really "got it". It's getting very stale for me. As much as Togedemaru has an interesting typing, I probably will never use it, especially if it never evolves (I love to use Pokemon in my team that evolve at least once, as it keeps things fresh. Though, having Lapras and Lugia in past teams are the exception since they are awesome no matter what).
 

XXD17

Draco rex
Given that it's currently shown to mimic Pikachu i'm hoping Mimikyu can at least learn some electric type moves. I know it's not an electric type but it'd be a nice touch.

It should...most ghost types get thunderbolt...

It'd be kind of funny if Mimikyu evolves to a larger form and ends up trying to look like Raichu. They could have some fun with the dex entry saying something like; "Wishing to be like its idol, Raichu, Mimikmi gorged on extra fluffy pancakes and often has trouble fitting in its Raichu cosplay"

That would be funny, but it kind of goes against mimikyu's lore. Why would it want to pretend to be a LESS popular Pokemon? Lol
 
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