New World Order?

[Letsgetloud]

My friend told me to try and spread this info out; she e-mailed me this:

"My mom told me about the New World Order conspiracy theory around two or three years ago, but I didn't pay much attention to it. Mostly because I didn't understand it back then, and also because I wasn't seeing much proof. Around Christmas time last year, barely a few months back obviously, I was researching Baxter laboratories for some reason. I heard before that the company got in trouble for accidentally mixing the deadly H5N1 avian influenza strain with seasonal influenza vaccines (the H3N2 strain). I also viewed some videos about it, and suddenly it went from me researching Baxter laboratories to the Ukraine Flu, to the New World Order.

For those of you who have heard about the New World Order conspiracy, what are your opinions on it? For those of you who haven't, I suggest you do. Also, the Truth movement is something entertaining to research. They make a whole bunch of videos and small websites trying to wake people up about the New World Order agenda. They believe that powerful people, corporations, banks, political groups/governments etc. are trying to forge a one-world government. Do you believe it is all crazy conspiracy theorists at work, or the truth? I have no formal opinion on this theory, I just like to learn what others have to say about it.

Remember, I suggest researching:
-Baxter Labs and Ukraine Flu
-The Truth movement
-The New World Order conspiracy and Illuminati symbolism.

I love freedom of speech lol."

She wants to try and get people's opinions on this subject, and seeing how it can be debated, it could fit in this forum; I don't know. If this is not suitable, sorry, but if it is, cool! Just discuss/debate, thanks!

 

[Kazekage]

Its fake, don't believe it really.

The world will NEVER able to cooperate like this. Seriously contact your friend and kindly explain that its stupid.

Believe me, I don't feel like digging through wikipedia to prove it wrong though. But if you feel like you need it I could.

 

[LedZeppelin1]

I've seen youtube videos of "evidence" of this new world order. supposedly obama is going to order some modern holocaust to reduce the world's population. i LOLd

 

[denizenofevil]

The democrats and the republicans can't even get along here in the United States. I highly doubt that all of the world can cooperate and form such an order.

 

[Vermehlo_Steele]

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[Vermehlo_Steele]

This sounds good... but it ignores the power and role of human vanity, pride, greed, lust, hatred, intolerance, fear, suspicion and the innate quest to be the best. With the UN as f-ucked up as it, this conspiracy is fantasy at best.

It's like Orwell's novel, 1984, it sounds like it could happen, but in reality, it never will.

Think about it. Europe once owned most of the world, if the conspiracy is true, then Europe would have dominated the entire world and then fused all their trans-continental empires together, thus ruling the world. Instead Europe has slid backwards ever since 1918 and they are still in decline, being important only in economics and even that is slipping from their grasp.

All conspiracy theories have one thing in common, they are all simple and swallowed by people who can't take any arguement, are paranoid and, possibly, a little strange in the head.

All theories are simple and require not a shred of proof, making them easy to spread, this the beauty of this all.

Plus, if anyone claims to be a guardian of truth, then why haven't they been killed yet? If you know what the Illumanti are planning and thier reach and power is so wide-spread, then why haven't they killed/ abducted/ 'brain-washed' you?

 

[7 tyranitars]

I saw some stuff about it on tv and if you ask me it's ot likely since the human nature would not alow that to happen

 

[(s.i.e)]

there are so many conspiricies about new world orders but everytime it's tried a bunch of individuals end up squabbling with eachother about this & that causing the necessary trouble as allways. i think the last time somebody tried to make the world into his private playground he joined up with the other 5 million casualties leaving a big mess.

borders change all the time and i'd love to see that go away someway somehow.

 

[raichu2626]

The democrats and the republicans can't even get along here in the United States. I highly doubt that all of the world can cooperate and form such an order.

Agreed. Cooperation is not in human blood.

 

[Vermehlo_Steele]

As I say, It's like 1984 in terms of SOUNDING realistic, but being so far detached from human nature, it just woundn't happen. It's impossible.

I love the theories claiming Obama is a Marxist, Muslim, Fascist, Kenyan, Terrorist and Anti-American all rolled into one.
I wonder who made this bull s-hit up. It's amusing though.

 

[indigohex]

I've seen youtube videos of "evidence" of this new world order. supposedly obama is going to order some modern holocaust to reduce the world's population. i LOLd

Have you ever heard of the Georgia Guidestones? One of the guidelines set on the Georgia Guidestones is to maintain humanity under 500 million (that is a reduction of at least 5.5 billion, if not 6.0 billion). Here are the guidelines as set by the Georgia Guidestones:

01. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
02. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
03. Unite humanity with a living new language.
04. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
05. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
06. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
07. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
08. Balance personal rights with social duties.
09. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

If you look at an article I found on the Infowars website, the Obama administration has announced that it would now rule by fascist decree and ignore Congress and the American people (http://www.infowars.com/obama-declares-he-will-rule-by-authoritarian-decree/). If you have a look at the article, Barack Obama broke his promise and issue Executive Order 13489 which barred the release of presidental records (which includes his birth certificate), and this was despite his promise that he would not issue any new Executive Orders but would reverse those that were issued by George W. Bush.

It is worth noting that there could be a court hearing in regards to Obama's birth certificate, which may prove that he was born in Kenya and therefore is ineligible to be the US President (as the US Constitution states that both the US President and Vice-President must be born in the United States of America) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories, http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=105764). It is even alledged that Barack Obama never attended Columbia University (http://www.infowars.com/investigators-declare-obama-never-attended-columbia-university/).

There is also talk that the United States of America, Canada and Mexico could be forced into a "North American Union", which is being implemented through the Security and Prosperity Partnership (http://www.canadians.org/integratethis/index.html), which could effectively be a police state much on the line of what the European Union is becoming, and that the formation of the North American Union would be achieved through a false-flag terrorist attack. Some people are claiming that this false-flag attack could happen within the next six months, probably during the Vancouver Winter Olympics. A lot of people believe that the North American Union is part of the New World Order, just like the European Union, the Union of South American Nations, the African Union as well as the proposed Asian Union.

Oh, and don't forget to research what Letsgetloud suggested, as well as the "Ten Kingdoms" and "Project BlueBeam", which could be used to usher in a "One World Religion" based on the worship of the Anti-Christ. Here are some primers for the "Ten Kingdoms":
* http://www.discerningtoday.org/members/Digest/1999Digest/October/Are We in Biblical Last Days.htm
* http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/religion/tenkingdoms.htm

 

[Vermehlo_Steele]

This is probably the biggest load of filth I have ever heard. Do you have a lover? No, I thought as much...

Read my previous posts to see why this can't happen.

 

[CSolarstorm]

First off, the phrase "New World Order" is taken directly from every U.S. president since I don't know when, and it was on the news that Kissinger wants Obama to pursue a "New World Order". So, it's a fact that our government is pursuing a "New World Order" be it whatever a "New World Order" is. So when we repeat the words of the U.S. Commander in Chief (be it Bush, Clinton, or Obama), try not to call us crazy, okay?

Second, whoever is saying, on the internet, in a Pokemon fandom, to people all over the world, that it isn't human nature to cooperate, isn't looking in the right places, like right on your computer screen. The internet is the elephant in the room example of cooperation. POKEMON is an example of monoculture where we all agree we like Pokemon and respond to financial cues The Pokemon Company gives us. And I'm willing to bet that most of us like Nintendo games, and other video games, and we know hordes of people like us who like the same things we do.

Agreed. Cooperation is not in human blood.

Any country that watches the same TV shows, eats the same packaged food, surfs the same internet, will steadily become the same global people with the same traditions, with only minor differences. Assimilation. This concept of a New World Order relies on people becoming the same and losing the borders between each other.

Cooperation is rising exponentially these days. First of all, ideology is becoming less respected by the masses, as the source of disagreement, war, and chauvanism. These days, money is the chief form of cooperation. For one, sexism and racism are down. People are judging each other less on skin or gender, more on attitude. For two, globalization is on the rise. Cooperation is the blood of worldwide corporations. Ever read The Globalization of Nothing? What do you call it when banks go out of business and yield to Chase Manhattan? Is that not a cooperation to maintain Chase Manhattan? How much cooperation does it take to keep a Subway in the Student Center of every university?

Who noticed that Hg/Ss comes out for America and Europe within a week of each other, when Pokemon games used to be released a month before in America? How much cooperation did it take to achieve that?

And Republicans and Democrats? Most people are intelligent enough to see beyond that pathetic binary, and neither does it accurately reflect the opinions of the actual public! Plus, name one difference between Republicans and Democrats that doesn't involve homosexuality, abortion, or gun control: sex, life, and death. The reasons they squabble over these conflicts is because humans are likely to be torn over these issues. It gives the illusion that people have a choice, something to fight for and and opposition to fight against. But when you have serious issues, like corporate interests, or war, everything is widely bipartisan.

All conspiracy theories have one thing in common, they are all simple and swallowed by people who can't take any arguement, are paranoid and, possibly, a little strange in the head. All theories are simple and require not a shred of proof, making them easy to spread, this the beauty of this all.

And then when someone comes and posts something with sources, you say:

This is probably the biggest load of filth I have ever heard. Do you have a lover? No, I thought as much...

And your response to them is most accurately described as:

the biggest load of filth I have ever heard.

Before you call conspiracy theorists "simple" and "people who can't take argument"...why don't you actually respond to the post above you, instead of insulting them?

An Infowars article is still better than nothing, and more civil than "do you have a lover".

Plus, if anyone claims to be a guardian of truth, then why haven't they been killed yet? If you know what the Illumanti are planning and thier reach and power is so wide-spread, then why haven't they killed/ abducted/ 'brain-washed' you?

The fact that "the truth" is believed widely to be a crazy conspiracy is enough, don't you think? As long as truther theories stay relegated to late-night internet frequenters, there's no reason to kill or abduct EVERYONE who visits a website with "the truth" on it. It's when people turn off the computer and actually do something that they're called racists and unpatriotic.

Besides...don't you think a trail of blood would be obvious? If anyone had a chance of creating and maintaining a New World Order, don't you think it would be a democracy which allows dissent even as it conquers, and not a police state?

 

[TomDraco]

What are we talking about, I'm the new world order!

*shot*

But really, this is as big of a farce as the "2012 apocalypse" is. I know randomly going through Wikipedia articles is fun, but remember to read through all the text.

It seems that only the far-left/right extremists endorse this, and I'm pretty sure Obama, for the left-winger he is, wouldn't even think of this.

Also, A NWO has 2 meanings: a conspiricy meaning, and a politcal meaning. A political NWO just means a revolution in the politics of the world. The creation of communist countries in the 30's, 40's, and 50's was part of the NWO of that time, as politics had to change to adapt, and to resist, to the new ideals of said countries.

Anyways, NWO conspiricy = crap

 

[rust]

If you look at an article I found on the Infowars website, the Obama administration has announced that it would now rule by fascist decree and ignore Congress and the American people (http://www.infowars.com/obama-declares-he-will-rule-by-authoritarian-decree/). If you have a look at the article, Barack Obama broke his promise and issue Executive Order 13489 which barred the release of presidental records (which includes his birth certificate), and this was despite his promise that he would not issue any new Executive Orders but would reverse those that were issued by George W. Bush.

Oh, you're a birther?

There is also talk that the United States of America, Canada and Mexico could be forced into a "North American Union", which is being implemented through the Security and Prosperity Partnership (http://www.canadians.org/integratethis/index.html), which could effectively be a police state much on the line of what the European Union is becoming, and that the formation of the North American Union would be achieved through a false-flag terrorist attack. Some people are claiming that this false-flag attack could happen within the next six months, probably during the Vancouver Winter Olympics. A lot of people believe that the North American Union is part of the New World Order, just like the European Union, the Union of South American Nations, the African Union as well as the proposed Asian Union.

And the likelihood of that happening is... slim to none.

Oh, and don't forget to research what Letsgetloud suggested, as well as the "Ten Kingdoms" and "Project BlueBeam", which could be used to usher in a "One World Religion" based on the worship of the Anti-Christ. Here are some primers for the "Ten Kingdoms":
* http://www.discerningtoday.org/members/Digest/1999Digest/October/Are We in Biblical Last Days.htm
* http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/religion/tenkingdoms.htm

There is no Anti-Christ, therefore, your argument is invalid.

 

[Jb]

It not gonna happend

 

[CSolarstorm]

Oh, you're a birther?

Brilliant, don't respond to what they say they believe, but instead post a YouTube video telling you what they believe.

And the likelihood of that happening is... slim to none.

Well, indigohex provided evidence. What's your evidence for instantly dismissing their evidence and blithly saying that it can't happen?

The fact that they're a birther, and said something religious? Methinks you're a bit prejudiced.

There is no Anti-Christ, therefore, your argument is invalid.

[How does the fact that you don't share Christian beliefs invalidate their entire argument, especially when the Anti-Christ was only one facet of their statement?

 

[Vermehlo_Steele]

Call me cynical, but I have trouble believing things built solely on the ramblings of others.

 

[CSolarstorm]

Call me cynical, but I have trouble believing things built solely on the ramblings of others.

What a cop out, will you not respond directly to what indigohex and I wrote, instead of dismissing our words as rambling or filth? Isn't a debate forum the precise place to talk about controversial topics? I'm confused, don't people on the debate forum like debating?

 

[Vermehlo_Steele]

All historical evidence shows this is impossible to acheive. As I said earlier, if this was true, Europe wpuld have dominated the post-1918 world, not crumble. There have been many oppurtunites of many great powers fusing and then dominating the world. But it never happens.

Anyway. Why would you keep popualtions low? A smaller population means a smaller government, smaller intelligence/ secrity agencies and smaller economies.

Basically, less people = less money/ power.

There is also talk that the United States of America, Canada and Mexico could be forced into a "North American Union", which is being implemented through the Security and Prosperity Partnership (http://www.canadians.org/integratethis/index.html), which could effectively be a police state much on the line of what the European Union is becoming, and that the formation of the North American Union would be achieved through a false-flag terrorist attack. Some people are claiming that this false-flag attack could happen within the next six months, probably during the Vancouver Winter Olympics. A lot of people believe that the North American Union is part of the New World Order, just like the European Union, the Union of South American Nations, the African Union as well as the proposed Asian Union.

I have never heard of the Union of South American Nations, the Asian Union or the North American Union. I assume you refer to the NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) whcih is a economic trade contract betweent the three NA countries.

Plus, the EU is highly ineffeicient and more concerned with regulating the shape of it's fruit imports than becoming the EUSSR.

Now what SunnyC? Doubtless I'm a brainwashed fool who is controlled by the Fascist World Domination Zionist Council of the United Nations Government in Training. You'll attack me for something trivial and paste some fakery to justify your paranoid view of the world.