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Next Pokemon Thread IV: A New Hope (Use for capture/release/evolution speculation!)

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phantasystar69

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Ash at the League
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Ash-if there is a filler saga for Hoenn (I don't think there will be one, but I will play along )

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pokefandt

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Why give Iris Treecko when Cilan is the grass type gym leader? It also doesnt make sence to me why the writers would have Ash and friends catch 21 new pokemon between them.

If they do get hoenn pokemon the Trio would only get 1 Hoenn pokemon each, if that.

from that list id say

Treecko for Cilan because hes a grass gym leader, Bagon for iris because she wants to be a dragon master, and Spoink for ash because he has no psychic type currenly.
Cilan isn't a grass type gym leader. His main pokemon happens to be grass. Cilan in the games has a Lillipup, which most certainly is not a grass type. In the anime he has a Dwebble, which a bug/rock type.

Besides I honestly think Treeko would go better to Iris, its part of the Dragon egg group.
 

playerking

Sick of dealing with idiots.
Yes two can be many as long it is over one hehe, like you said there is no need for him too pull me on the words, but i have noticed on this site that there are people that dont tolerate beeing wrong or corrected by others and take stuff like this dead serious.
Enough on this subject now, it has gone too far haha he were wrong thats it end of discussion. Its a thread on captures etc.
I'm sorry for bringing this up again, but I can tolerate being corrected as I have before but Many means: a large number of. And two, is not a large number. A couple of his rivals would've made sense seeing the number of rivals, or rivals in a league that he has/had. Though, if Ash had/had 5-6 rivals then yes you're right, 2 could be classified as, many. This is a stupid argument, and I guess I should leave it seeing as it will get nowhere.

But I want to discuss Ash's old Pokemon.

A list of Pokemon that Ash, that haven't evolved yet.

Bulbasaur - Doesn't want to evolve, so It most likely wont
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/1.png[/IMG139]

Squirtle - Doubt it will evolve
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/7.png[/IMG139]

Bayleef - Should evolve later
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/153.png[/IMG139]

Quilava - Should evolve way later.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/156.png[/IMG139]

Totodile - I don't think it will evolve.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/158.png[/IMG139]

Corphish - Strong enough in my opinion.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/341.png[/IMG139]

Buizel - See the above reason
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/418.png[/IMG139]

Gible - I think it should evolve
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/443.png[/IMG139]


Now this is how they should be in the filler saga

Bulbasaur - Doesn't want to evolve, so It most likely wont
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/1.png[/IMG139]

Squirtle - Doubt it will evolve
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/7.png[/IMG139]

Meganium - It would be better as a Meganium. It would probably grow out of it's affectionate personality and it has been a Bayleef for long enough.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/154.png[/IMG139]

Quilava - I think it should evolve but probably not in the filler saga.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/156.png[/IMG139]

Totodile - Should stay as it is.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/158.png[/IMG139]

Corphish - See the above reason. Plus it's strong enough in my opinion.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/341.png[/IMG139]

Buizel - See the above reason.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/418.png[/IMG139]

Gabite - Should be the phanpy of Unova, Ash brings Gible back and it evolves later on whilst traveling.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/444.png[/IMG139]

And his Unova Pokemon should be at this time,

Pikachu (I know it isn't a Unova Pokemon)
Unfezant
Samurott
Pignite
Servine
Scraggy/Scrafy

Reserves

Leavanny
Krokorok(Possibly)
Bouffulant( ^ )

1 of these 3

Darmanitan
Palpitoad
Beartic




So this is how they should be later on.

Bulbasaur - Doesn't want to evolve, so It most likely wont
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/1.png[/IMG139]

Squirtle - Doubt it will evolve
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/7.png[/IMG139]

Meganium - It would be better as a Meganium. It would probably grow out of it's affectionate personality and it has been a Bayleef for long enough.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/154.png[/IMG139]

Typhlosion - I think it should evolve but probably not in the filler saga.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/157.png[/IMG139]

Totodile - Should stay as it is.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/158.png[/IMG139]

Corphish - See the above reason. Plus it's strong enough in my opinion.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/341.png[/IMG139]

Buizel - See the above reason.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/418.png[/IMG139]

Garchomp -
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/445.png[/IMG139]
 
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KibaLG8

Well-Known Member
Cilan isn't a grass type gym leader. His main pokemon happens to be grass. Cilan in the games has a Lillipup, which most certainly is not a grass type. In the anime he has a Dwebble, which a bug/rock type.

Besides I honestly think Treeko would go better to Iris, its part of the Dragon egg group.
I guess the green hair, green eyes, green part of the Trio Badge doesn't indicate anything.
 

I-am-the-peel

Justice Forever
I'm sorry for bringing this up again, but I can tolerate being corrected as I have before but Many means: a large number of. And two, is not a large number. A couple of his rivals would've made sense seeing the number of rivals, or rivals in a league that he has/had. Though, if Ash had/had 5-6 rivals then yes you're right, 2 could be classified as, many. This is a stupid argument, and I guess I should leave it seeing as it will get nowhere.

But I want to discuss Ash's old Pokemon.

A list of Pokemon that Ash, that haven't evolved yet.

Bulbasaur - Doesn't want to evolve, so It most likely wont
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/1.png[/IMG139]

Squirtle - Doubt it will evolve
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/7.png[/IMG139]

Bayleef - Should evolve later
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/153.png[/IMG139]

Quilava - Should evolve way later.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/156.png[/IMG139]

Totodile - I don't think it will evolve.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/158.png[/IMG139]

Corphish - Strong enough in my opinion.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/341.png[/IMG139]

Buizel - See the above reason
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/418.png[/IMG139]

Gible - I think it should evolve
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/443.png[/IMG139]


Now this is how they should be in the filler saga

Bulbasaur - Doesn't want to evolve, so It most likely wont
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/1.png[/IMG139]

Squirtle - Doubt it will evolve
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/7.png[/IMG139]

Meganium - It would be better as a Meganium. It would probably grow out of it's affectionate personality and it has been a Bayleef for long enough.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/154.png[/IMG139]

Quilava - I think it should evolve but probably not in the filler saga.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/156.png[/IMG139]

Totodile - Should stay as it is.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/158.png[/IMG139]

Corphish - See the above reason. Plus it's strong enough in my opinion.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/341.png[/IMG139]

Buizel - See the above reason.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/418.png[/IMG139]

Gabite - Should be the phanpy of Unova, Ash brings Gible back and it evolves later on whilst traveling.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/444.png[/IMG139]

And his Unova Pokemon should be at this time,

Pikachu (I know it isn't a Unova Pokemon)
Unfezant
Samurott
Pignite
Servine
Scraggy/Scrafy

Reserves

Leavanny
Krokorok(Possibly)
Bouffulant( ^ )

1 of these 3

Darmanitan
Palpitoad
Beartic




So this is how they should be later on.

Bulbasaur - Doesn't want to evolve, so It most likely wont
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/1.png[/IMG139]

Squirtle - Doubt it will evolve
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/7.png[/IMG139]

Meganium - It would be better as a Meganium. It would probably grow out of it's affectionate personality and it has been a Bayleef for long enough.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/154.png[/IMG139]

Typhlosion - I think it should evolve but probably not in the filler saga.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/157.png[/IMG139]

Totodile - Should stay as it is.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/158.png[/IMG139]

Corphish - See the above reason. Plus it's strong enough in my opinion.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/341.png[/IMG139]

Buizel - See the above reason.
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/418.png[/IMG139]

Garchomp -
[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/445.png[/IMG139]
I agree that Bayleef, Quilava and Gible should fully evolve but I think one of the other water pokemon should evolve too. It would make sense for Totodile to evolve and it would please many but I think Buizel should evolve instead. Corpish can really handle itself and if it needs anything, give it some new moves but Buizel seems a little bit weaker. It knows water gun, sonic boom, aqua jet and Ice punch but the only powerful moves on that set are aqua jet and ice punch. It won't be given a whole new movepool so I think it should evolve into a Floatzel. Also for the filler saga, I think Torterra should return.
 

playerking

Sick of dealing with idiots.
I agree that Bayleef, Quilava and Gible should fully evolve but I think one of the other water pokemon should evolve too. It would make sense for Totodile to evolve and it would please many but I think Buizel should evolve instead. Corpish can really handle itself and if it needs anything, give it some new moves but Buizel seems a little bit weaker. It knows water gun, sonic boom, aqua jet and Ice punch but the only powerful moves on that set are aqua jet and ice punch. It won't be given a whole new movepool so I think it should evolve into a Floatzel. Also for the filler saga, I think Torterra should return.
If one of his Water Pokemon were to evolve, I'd prefer it to be Totodile, because apart from Buisel and Corphish it isn't that strong, I hope it keeps it's joyful personality but I also hope it becomes more of a battler.
 

JD

Well-Known Member
If one of his Water Pokemon were to evolve, I'd prefer it to be Totodile, because apart from Buisel and Corphish it isn't that strong, I hope it keeps it's joyful personality but I also hope it becomes more of a battler.
Why not Oshawott? The little guy seems a lot more likely to evolve than the others Totodile evolving would be nice but it's not going to happen.

Trip(Unova League)
Serperior
Jellicent
Galvantula
Druddigon
Bisharp
Sigilyph
(Reserved)
Vaniluxe
Conkeldurr
Chandelure
Unfezant
Seismitoad
 

playerking

Sick of dealing with idiots.
Why not Oshawott? The little guy seems a lot more likely to evolve than the others Totodile evolving would be nice but it's not going to happen.

Trip(Unova League)
Serperior
Jellicent
Galvantula
Druddigon
Bisharp
Sigilyph
(Reserved)
Vaniluxe
Conkeldurr
Chandelure
Unfezant
Seismitoad
I meant out of his old Pokemon, if you think that I don't want Oshawott to evolve, I'd be really surprised, of course I want him to evolve, I want it to be on the same level as Infernape and Sceptile.
 

snivy trainer

Driving myself batty
Ash's team:
Pikachu-obviously
Unfezant-The bird always evolves
Samurott-Trip has servine and bianca has pignite, so ash should get oshawott fully evolved
Pignite-Tepig should evolve once as i think i needs a short power boost before it falls at the league
Servine-Trips gonnna get serperior so I think ash's snivy will evolve to challeng it at the league, where it'll lose
Scrafty-Baby pokes need to evolve
Reserves
Leavanny-Of course its gonna evolve
Pawniard-Quiet poke that ash obtains from a weirdo that wins/loses against him at around 7th/8th gym

Iris:
Haxorus-Pokes with evolution dreams evolve into their dream form
Excadrill-they'll settle their differences when they lose a battle
Emolga-she just got one


Cilan
Simisage-I reckon he'll evolve
Crustle-Hmm
Vanillish-same as everyone else thinks
Golet-i can see a 'happy g lucky' thing here

Jessie:
Swoobat-Of course its gonna evolve
Duosion- she might think it as cute

James:
Confagrigus-???
Maractus-much like cacnea
Archen-Nice rock type to be thrashed by pikachu, yet still put up a fight

Trip:
Serperior
Jellicent
Chandelure
Bravairy
Zwelious/hydregion
Eelektross
Reserves:
Unfezant
Carracosta

Bianca:
Emboar
Cinccino
Lilligant
Mienshao
Musharna
Mandibuzz

Ash vs trip(unova league)
Ash's team:pikachu, Unfezant, Samurott, Pignite, Servine, Pawniard.
Trip's team:Seperior,Unfezant, Jellicent, Chandelure, Eelekross, Zwelious/hydregion.
Unfezant vs Unfezant-Ash's
Unfezant vs Jellicent-Switch
Servine vs Jellicent-Servine
Servine vs Seperior-Serperior
Pikachu vs Serperior- Pikachu and switch
Pignite vs Chandelure-Chandelure
Unfezant vs Chandelure-Chandelure and switch
Pawniard vs Zwelious-Zwelious and evolves
Pikachu vs Hydregion-Switch
Samurott vs Hydregion-Samurott
Samurott vs Eelektross-Switch
Pikachu vs Eelektross-Eelektross
Samurott vs Eelektross-Samurott
Samurott vs Chandelure-Burned and switched
Unfezant vs Chandelure-Chandelure
Samurott vs Chandelure-Samurott
 

playerking

Sick of dealing with idiots.
Baby pokes need to evolve
Not always, Totodile jumped around joyfully like a little kid, and it has yet to evolve, Scraggy could always proves it's strength without evolving.
 

'Chompah!

Garchomp = Beast
Not always, Totodile jumped around joyfully like a little kid, and it has yet to evolve, Scraggy could always proves it's strength without evolving.
By baby Pokemon, I think he means Pokemon that Ash have had from an egg, like his Phanpy in Johto, which evolved into Donphan. Totodile isn't a baby pokemon, it's personality is just childish.
 

'Chompah!

Garchomp = Beast
Does anyone else here see Ash with a Gigalith? He does need a rock type, and Gigalith is the most powerful non- legendary rock type in Unova.
 

KibaLG8

Well-Known Member
Does anyone else here see Ash with a Gigalith? He does need a rock type, and Gigalith is the most powerful non- legendary rock type in Unova.
No & don't double post.
 

JD

Well-Known Member
Does anyone else here see Ash with a Gigalith? He does need a rock type, and Gigalith is the most powerful non- legendary rock type in Unova.
Archeops is the strongest rock type in Unova... The only rock type I could ever see Ash getting was Dwebble which Cilan caught and Aron which he could still catch if we get a Unova filler arc.
 

1rkhachatryan

Call me Robert guys
Ya I hope Ash gets the toad to if only to piss of shooti lol. But also so he has another evolved water type(yes I believe that Mijumaru will evolve but just in case he doesn't at least there is Palpitoad).
 

Venomfang

Perky Goth
I really hope Ash doesn't get Palpitoad. It would destroy Oshawott's chances of evolving and Ash doesn't need anymore reserves.
 

1rkhachatryan

Call me Robert guys
I really hope Ash doesn't get Palpitoad. It would destroy Oshawott's chances of evolving and Ash doesn't need anymore reserves.
Lol he only has one reserve
 
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