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Next Pokemon Thread IV: A New Hope (Use for capture/release/evolution speculation!)

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Venomfang

Perky Goth
How do we know that Luke is a recurring rival? If he is even a rival at all.
 
How do we know that Luke is a recurring rival? If he is even a rival at all.

I think he only participated in the tournament so he could learn what it's like to battle for his movies. So I don't think we'll see much of him in the future. Maybe he'll get another appearance a la Angie but that's it.

So far, the only recurring rivals are Trip, Bianca, maybe Kenyan (for Ash), Burgundy (for Cilan), and Langley (for Iris).

Anyways, for Langley, since she has a Pawniard which is a pokemon defensively advantageous towards Dragon types, I can see her have another pokemon that can learn tons of dragon moves but isn't a dragon type. Maybe she can get an Archeops in the future?

And she can also get a water type that can use some ice moves too.

Like Cilan, I have no clue what Burgundy will get next. Both Burgundy and Cilan are pretty random with their captures lol.

As for Ash's rivals, well, again, I have no idea what to expect from them. Because considering Bianca's pokemon in-game has already been taken by some of the characters, she's definitely gonna get a different team. Although I think Mienshao is still available for her. Trip's team is pretty much complete, just bring the evos to him and a couple of reserves.
 

GalladeRocks

Son of a Beach
I don't think we'll have seen the last of Luke after the tournament, though I do agree in that he's probably not a full-out rival. If there's a 1 vs. 1 round at the beginning of the Pokemon League like there was in Johto and Hoenn, I could see him reappearing, but otherwise, I don't think he'll have much of a "rival" role. And as I stated in my post before, I'll be surprised if we ever see Langley, Luke, and Kenyan with full teams.
 

Josef Stylin

I want to dye
I don't think Luke's a rival to begin with.
 

Venomfang

Perky Goth
Yeah, he's more like Aoi, except not awesome.
 

Venomfang

Perky Goth
Agreed. Granted, I do still like Luke, but I do like Angie better.

A pity she never returned after that horrible Lickilicky episode.
 

'Chompah!

Garchomp = Beast
So, it looks like the writer's are going out their way to destroy all of the common speculations for the group. Golett, Stoutland, Leavanny, Beartic, and Pawniard all showing up with various rivals/ potential rivals? Honestly, if Luke becomes a full rival, I don't think even Swadloon will evolve fully. :p

Honestly, I'm just happy Palpitoad is going to be used; He/she is one of my favorites on Ash's team, and from the preview, it's looking pretty bad***.
 
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Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
Ash-
Current pokemon possibilities-
;025;:559::495::537::499::542::521::502:
Traded= :524: for :570:
Temp: :644:
New catch:
;258; (Supports new re-make, gift from Juniper)
:627:
:553: (After or right before league)
;egg; (Maybe another egg)
;447;
:577:
:599:
Eevee

Cilan-
Current evolutions- Pansage
:557:
Stunfisk
Capture;252;, Basculin

Iris- Axew, Excadrill, Emolga
Capture- Torchic, Deerling, Bagon/Trapinch
 
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GalladeRocks

Son of a Beach
So, it looks like the writer's are going out their way to destroy all of the common speculations for the group. Golett, Stoutland, Leavanny, Beartic, and Pawniard all showing up with various rivals/ potential rivals? Honestly, if Luke becomes a full rival, I don't think even Swadloon will evolve fully. :p

I don't see how that stops some common speculation. Well, Golett is a definite one that seems much less likely for Ash now, and a lot of people have been predicting Stoutland for Cilan and Pawniard for Ash or Cilan. However, most predictions involving Cubchoo don't have it evolving, but having it as one of Ash's unevolved Pokemon. As for Leavanny. . .well, if Ash and his main rival were able to share Gliscor, then Ash and small-time rival/recurring character can share Leavanny. Luke has no effect on Swadloon's evolution, unless he replaces Trip as Ash's main rival. But even that would lead me again to Gliscor. . .

LOL at me disagreeing in my original statement, then coming around to agree with three of the five that you mentioned.

And LOL at me actually typing LOL, something I've probably done twice in my life. LOL
 

SnivyBoy

Well-Known Member
I personally think Swadloon will evolve to Leavanny due to the speed it evolved (5-6 episodes) :)

Also I think we will see Luke again but not as a rival and more as a friend because there wasnt really a spark there unlike when we met Trip, Kenyan, Burgundy and Langley :S

If were going along the lines if the team getting pokemon from other regions (which I dont think will happen or if it does not til the very end) but Langley could get a Charmander which can learn dragon moves :)

How do we know that Langley has a Pawniard although that would be awsome because it matches her cold dark attitude, but going along this theroy I think she might also have to have something quiet fun bacause I sence a form of exentricness behind her :)

Also I love the fact there leading us on with all these characters and the fact that there getting random pokemon at random times so you dont know whats nexts :D

And is this next episode sort of a catch up episode so to speak as in there doing this episode where everyone is together so we can sort of catch up on what pokemon they have ?

And I was wondering if anyone else was thinking about this but do you think Pansage will evolve ?
And I know your guna say its got no reason not to, but its Cilans partner pokemon so following tradition (Piplup, Pikachu, Togepi - when it was in the main series) it shouldnt evolve but at the same time it deosnt get anywhere near the amount of screen time as Pikachu and Axew so I duno what do you think ? :)
 

pokefandt

Well-Known Member
I don't see how that stops some common speculation. Well, Golett is a definite one that seems much less likely for Ash now, and a lot of people have been predicting Stoutland for Cilan and Pawniard for Ash or Cilan. However, most predictions involving Cubchoo don't have it evolving, but having it as one of Ash's unevolved Pokemon. As for Leavanny. . .well, if Ash and his main rival were able to share Gliscor, then Ash and small-time rival/recurring character can share Leavanny. Luke has no effect on Swadloon's evolution, unless he replaces Trip as Ash's main rival. But even that would lead me again to Gliscor. . .

LOL at me disagreeing in my original statement, then coming around to agree with three of the five that you mentioned.

And LOL at me actually typing LOL, something I've probably done twice in my life. LOL

Gliscor doesn't really count, because after its capture we saw Paul's maybe twice.
 

XxEpicsxX

I just don't care
I hope Luke is like Cheryl, appears for a few episodes, then doesn't show up again.
 

Gentleman Skeleton

Well-Known Member
I don't see how that stops some common speculation. Well, Golett is a definite one that seems much less likely for Ash now, and a lot of people have been predicting Stoutland for Cilan and Pawniard for Ash or Cilan. However, most predictions involving Cubchoo don't have it evolving, but having it as one of Ash's unevolved Pokemon. As for Leavanny. . .well, if Ash and his main rival were able to share Gliscor, then Ash and small-time rival/recurring character can share Leavanny. Luke has no effect on Swadloon's evolution, unless he replaces Trip as Ash's main rival. But even that would lead me again to Gliscor. . .

LOL at me disagreeing in my original statement, then coming around to agree with three of the five that you mentioned.

And LOL at me actually typing LOL, something I've probably done twice in my life. LOL

I disagree on the Golett statement. Ash has frequently caught Pokemon that have already debuted. Not counting evolutions and starters, I can list the following:

Snorlax
Corphish
Torkoal
Aipom
Gligar
Gible

Each of these Pokemon, save for Snorlax which was a random capture ended up serving a purpose to the plot as a whole, mostly for either debuting an evolution from another generation or filling a type quota (with Gible being an excuse for the writers to give Ash a Dragon Pokemon). If the writers want to give Ash a Ghost-type Pokemon this generation, I think it will either be Golett or Golurk (with Golett far more likely).
 

GalladeRocks

Son of a Beach
I disagree on the Golett statement. Ash has frequently caught Pokemon that have already debuted. Not counting evolutions and starters, I can list the following:

Snorlax
Corphish
Torkoal
Aipom
Gligar
Gible

Each of these Pokemon, save for Snorlax which was a random capture ended up serving a purpose to the plot as a whole, mostly for either debuting an evolution from another generation or filling a type quota (with Gible being an excuse for the writers to give Ash a Dragon Pokemon). If the writers want to give Ash a Ghost-type Pokemon this generation, I think it will either be Golett or Golurk (with Golett far more likely).

Sure, that's happened before, but if Luke shows up more often, I see him keeping Golett as a main Pokemon, showing up enough for Ash not to catch one. However, now that I think about it, Luke is somewhat similar to Khoury, so I guess Golett is still a possibility for Ash. Granted, I'm not sure if I want it to be now. That little robot looks amazing in-game, but the anime. . . *shudder* Oh well, I'm sure I'll get used to it.

And you can add Starly, Buizel, and Pidove to your list as well.
 

De HotShot Mon

Smack Down time
Speculation time (though some of it might still be wishful thinking):

Ash

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Iris

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Cilan

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Trip

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Bel

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Burgundy

[IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/502.png[/IMG139][IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/586.png[/IMG139][IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/508.png[/IMG139][IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/538.png[/IMG139][IMG139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/617.png[/IMG139]

Langley

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Maxim

Beyond repair
My predictions (some may be repeats of what I say earlier):

-Maybe one more unexpected catch for Ash. But no more.

-Only one of Ash's starters will evolve fully (don't understand why everyone thinks it'll be Oshawott), two will be stuck at their second stage.

-One or two Pokemon will be either gave for training or released. Palpitoad looks likely for training, he may return briefly for the League as a Seismitoad.

-Swadloon is gonna rot at Juniper's. No Leavanny for Ash.

-Probably one more oddball capture for Iris. But no further Dragons.

-Despite Iris's ambitions, Axew will refuse to evolve. Expect some emotional Bulbasaur- or Piplup-like episode. He'll probably be given an Eviolite to compensate.

-Cilan might catch something oddball or a new Grass-type. I'd personally like him to catch a Deerling, for the sake of seeing its Form Change. But Burgundy's got a Sawsbuck already...

-Cilan's Pansage will never evolve.

-Cilan and Iris's fifth Pokemon will be something old (I think that old Pokemon will start to pop out occassionally by the seventh Gym). It could be also a chance for Iris to catch a second Dragon (how about a Bagon?).

-Neither Cilan or Iris is ever gonna get a full team.

-Don't expect too many changes in TR's teams.

-As for rivals, I don't have too many predictions. Trip will probably change his team very often (like Paul), Bianca's team will probably be faithful to her game team (with exception of Cinccino), Kenyan is likely never gonna become a full-time rival, so no prediction for him. Don't see too much potential in Langley's character either, but she might pop out twice or thrice more. Expect her to have very "strange" Pokemon.

I don't understand people who expect Ash to catch OVER 9000 Pokemon in Unova. Ash's catching spree is now over. Also, keep in mind that the writers now want each Pokemon to have a personality. I personally don't care about this either but it's probably better than having Ash release half of his Pokemon as in the Original Series.
 
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