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Next Pokemon Thread V: Evolution/Capture/Release Speculation Station [UNOVA ONLY]

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Zariful

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Shraeder

It's Lit
http://s919.photobucket.com/albums/...mon 6th Generation Outpherm Region/?start=all

Is this a fake or the real generation 6

If this is fake the guys who made it has some real talent

Fake. I've seen these before. They used to say 5th Gen but they changed it to 6th Gen.

@GalladeRocks-Really? Only 2 evolutions for Ash in BW2? IMO if Ash has Servine and Pignite, he should also have Dewott so they're all equal. Also, I completely disagree with the idea of anyone having Riolu except Ash even though I'm not sure if he'll even get a new Pokemon...you already know my reasons why if you read the last page. Though I do like the idea of Georgia with a Castform, it's an interesting and unique Pokemon that can become an Ice-Type.

My main reason for wanting Oshawott to evolve(I'm admitting it): It's been an Oshawott since THE VERY FIRST EPISODE. That's even longer than when Krokorok appeared as a Sandile, and he's about to evolve AGAIN.
 
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GalladeRocks

Son of a Beach
http://s919.photobucket.com/albums/...mon 6th Generation Outpherm Region/?start=all

Is this a fake or the real generation 6

If this is fake the guys who made it has some real talent

Hehe, Platyduck.

Oh, and there's a 99.999999999999999% chance they're fake.

@GalladeRocks-Really? Only 2 evolutions for Ash in BW2? IMO if Ash has Servine and Pignite, he should also have Dewott so they're all equal. Also, I completely disagree with the idea of anyone having Riolu except Ash even though I'm not sure if he'll even get a new Pokemon...you already know my reasons why if you read the last page. Though I do like the idea of Georgia with a Castform, it's an interesting and unique Pokemon that can become an Ice-Type.

Like I said, it all depends on how long BW2 runs. If it's as long as the first part was, I could definitely see them squeezing in evolutions for Pignite and Servine, maybe even Palpitoad and/or Boldore as well. And while it would be kind of cool to see Ash with all three starters at the same level, I just don't see Oshawott evolving. He's been showing up repeatedly with a group of other Pokemon who are legendary for avoiding evolution, so I think that's one of many signs that he won't. Plus (not talking to you specifically, but to other people who keep using this as a reason), while there is the poster showing Ash and Co. with all three fully evolved starters in the background, Oshawott himself is also present in the picture, which would pretty heavily suggest that he's sticking around for awhile and that the Samurott isn't Ash's.

My main reason for wanting Oshawott to evolve(I'm admitting it): It's been an Oshawott since THE VERY FIRST EPISODE. That's even longer than when Krokorok appeared as a Sandile, and he's about to evolve AGAIN.

Pikachu's been a Pikachu since the first episode of the entire series. I win!

Just kidding, I see where you're coming from. But seriously, look at some of the others. Bulbasaur and Squirtle are still just that: Bulbasaur and Squirtle. Just because logic says that a Pokemon would evolve after a certain amount of time doesn't mean that it will.
 

dman_dustin

Well-Known Member
Pikachu's been a Pikachu since the first episode of the entire series. I win!

That's not a good example. For one thing Pikachu evolves by stone, therefore cannot evolve naturally, it also refused to evolve.

Squirtle would be a better example since it didn't exactly refuse evolution however Totodile is probably the best example since its the best Pokemon that could evolve regardless of the situation and still hasn't.
 

SQUIRTLETamer08

lower shiny ratio!
Of course these are fake. But what exactly does this fanart have to do with team predictions? :/

Anyways, I was curious as to how often new pokemon products, more specifically plush dolls and toys, come out, as they sometimes hint at new captures/evolutions for the main cast. If anyone knows, how long should it be before we can get more hints? However this may just be wishful thinking considering we just recently got a hint with the new opening.
 

Grei

not the color

Zariful

Well-Known Member
They're fake. And I'm not sure why you're enamored over the designs... the designs really aren't that great, to be honest.



Are you kidding me? What do you mean, "who knows?"

yeah I'm kidding u yeah they r fake
 

I-am-the-peel

Justice Forever
Fake. I've seen these before. They used to say 5th Gen but they changed it to 6th Gen.

@GalladeRocks-Really? Only 2 evolutions for Ash in BW2? IMO if Ash has Servine and Pignite, he should also have Dewott so they're all equal. Also, I completely disagree with the idea of anyone having Riolu except Ash even though I'm not sure if he'll even get a new Pokemon...you already know my reasons why if you read the last page. Though I do like the idea of Georgia with a Castform, it's an interesting and unique Pokemon that can become an Ice-Type.

My main reason for wanting Oshawott to evolve(I'm admitting it): It's been an Oshawott since THE VERY FIRST EPISODE. That's even longer than when Krokorok appeared as a Sandile, and he's about to evolve AGAIN.

Tell that to Ash's Bulbasaur, Squirtle and even Totodile. We can't turn around and say they will definetely evolve in the future because Bulbasaur 99.999% likely won't nor would Squirtle for the Squirtle Squad. It doesn't really matter how long the pokemon has been in the series, Oshawott's role as comic relief has already been cemented and the writers likely intended to introduce it early so they could milk more marketing from it.

Comments in bold, whatever happens I doubt Oshawott will evolve unless very late at the League.
 

shelldude400

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Vigoroth is an evolved pokemon lol.



I heavily agree with this. We have merchandise featuring Ash with all 3 fully evolved startrs and considering they havent given unevolved starters since Johto, which was a major bust tellls me that they won't do crap like that again. Plus considering that he only had 1 starter that fully evolved in Hoenn then had 2 starters that both fully evolved in Sinnoh. (by far the best saga yet in terms of evolutions and having a mostly evolved team) I mean why not try having 3 fully evolved starters.

In my opinion, I think they went back to not giving Ash all 3 starters so they can learn how to correctly develop the starters. Since Sceptile was a success at development, they tried their hand at 2 starters which were handled well (until Grotle evolved into Torterra which wasnt handled very well). I can see them evolving all 3 of them fully, especially IF he's going to win this league.
This argument isn't exactly valid, Ash hasn't had 3 starters since Jhoto either. Also I'm pretty sure GalladeRockes meant not fully evolved. (I made that mistake earlier as well :p)
In Sinnoh nobody had a Chimchar except Paul which Ash later captured, he was the only way to show Infernape. Paul also had Torterra, but how often did he use it? And then all these other mains had a member of the Piplup line, it wasn't too hard to showcase it then :p
In Hoenn, Ash had Treecko, May had Torchic and Brock had Mudkip. Treecko & Torchic evolved once, and then didn't evolve until a filler. Blaziken was shown before against Charizard in Jhoto. Harrison(Or was it Tyson?) had Sceptile to show it off as well.
Now currently: Bianca has Emboar, Trip has Serperior & Burgendy has Dewott. What might happen will be a repeat with Barry and Kenny, Kenny had Prinplup which later evolved into Empoleon while Barry always had an Empoleon from his debut. Burgendy has Dewott for now, the new rival could have a Samurott, and Burgendys could evolve, which leaves Oshawott to be like Piplup sadly...
Comparing to past regions won't really work with this region, Ash actually rotates members, he has 3 starters, and there isn't a Brock!
We really need confirmation of this rival :/
 

Zariful

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This argument isn't exactly valid, Ash hasn't had 3 starters since Jhoto either. Also I'm pretty sure GalladeRockes meant not fully evolved. (I made that mistake earlier as well :p)
In Sinnoh nobody had a Chimchar except Paul which Ash later captured, he was the only way to show Infernape. Paul also had Torterra, but how often did he use it? And then all these other mains had a member of the Piplup line, it wasn't too hard to showcase it then :p
In Hoenn, Ash had Treecko, May had Torchic and Brock had Mudkip. Treecko & Torchic evolved once, and then didn't evolve until a filler. Blaziken was shown before against Charizard in Jhoto. Harrison(Or was it Tyson?) had Sceptile to show it off as well.
Now currently: Bianca has Emboar, Trip has Serperior & Burgendy has Dewott. What might happen will be a repeat with Barry and Kenny, Kenny had Prinplup which later evolved into Empoleon while Barry always had an Empoleon from his debut. Burgendy has Dewott for now, the new rival could have a Samurott, and Burgendys could evolve, which leaves Oshawott to be like Piplup sadly...
Comparing to past regions won't really work with this region, Ash actually rotates members, he has 3 starters, and there isn't a Brock!
We really need confirmation of this rival :/

Ugh ur probably right my hope for dewott for ash is completely crushed
 

G50

No longer posting
New Rival

[IMG139]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/503.png[/IMG139][IMG139]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/330.png[/IMG139][IMG139]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/626.png[/IMG139][IMG139]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/604.png[/IMG139][IMG139]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/628.png[/IMG139][IMG139]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/571.png[/IMG139]

Banjirou (I hope he will appear and be reaccuring. Not a rival just a repeating character)

[IMG139]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/637.png[/IMG139][IMG139]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/149.png[/IMG139][IMG139]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/bw/617.png[/IMG139]

I think he should have 1 or 2 middle stage Pokemon, and then at the league they'd be fully evolved.
 
I think he should have 1 or 2 middle stage Pokemon, and then at the league they'd be fully evolved.

that's his team for the end of the saga not his introduction
 

PrinceGray

Anti-Hero of Serebii
Ugh ur probably right my hope for dewott for ash is completely crushed

It's not that your hope is crushed. It's just that your faith and will is extremely weak and you are swayed by others' opinions easily.



This argument isn't exactly valid, Ash hasn't had 3 starters since Jhoto either. Also I'm pretty sure GalladeRockes meant not fully evolved. (I made that mistake earlier as well :p)
In Sinnoh nobody had a Chimchar except Paul which Ash later captured, he was the only way to show Infernape. Paul also had Torterra, but how often did he use it? And then all these other mains had a member of the Piplup line, it wasn't too hard to showcase it then :p
In Hoenn, Ash had Treecko, May had Torchic and Brock had Mudkip. Treecko & Torchic evolved once, and then didn't evolve until a filler. Blaziken was shown before against Charizard in Jhoto. Harrison(Or was it Tyson?) had Sceptile to show it off as well.
Now currently: Bianca has Emboar, Trip has Serperior & Burgendy has Dewott. What might happen will be a repeat with Barry and Kenny, Kenny had Prinplup which later evolved into Empoleon while Barry always had an Empoleon from his debut. Burgendy has Dewott for now, the new rival could have a Samurott, and Burgendys could evolve, which leaves Oshawott to be like Piplup sadly...
Comparing to past regions won't really work with this region, Ash actually rotates members, he has 3 starters, and there isn't a Brock!
We really need confirmation of this rival :/

That's still not a convincing enough argument to me. You just said that we shouldn't compare past regions and you easily contradicted yourself by comparing BW to a past region. If this new rival does not have Samurott or any member of the Oshawott line, what will your next argument be?

To be honest, the ONLY and I mean ONLY thing that will convince me that the otter won't evolve is if it is explicitly stated and/or it has an episode like Piplup did.
 
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Snorby

Snorby
This argument isn't exactly valid, Ash hasn't had 3 starters since Jhoto either. Also I'm pretty sure GalladeRockes meant not fully evolved. (I made that mistake earlier as well :p)
In Sinnoh nobody had a Chimchar except Paul which Ash later captured, he was the only way to show Infernape. Paul also had Torterra, but how often did he use it? And then all these other mains had a member of the Piplup line, it wasn't too hard to showcase it then :p
In Hoenn, Ash had Treecko, May had Torchic and Brock had Mudkip. Treecko & Torchic evolved once, and then didn't evolve until a filler. Blaziken was shown before against Charizard in Jhoto. Harrison(Or was it Tyson?) had Sceptile to show it off as well.
Now currently: Bianca has Emboar, Trip has Serperior & Burgendy has Dewott. What might happen will be a repeat with Barry and Kenny, Kenny had Prinplup which later evolved into Empoleon while Barry always had an Empoleon from his debut. Burgendy has Dewott for now, the new rival could have a Samurott, and Burgendys could evolve, which leaves Oshawott to be like Piplup sadly...
Comparing to past regions won't really work with this region, Ash actually rotates members, he has 3 starters, and there isn't a Brock!
We really need confirmation of this rival :/

Shelldude used Logic!

Ugh ur probably right my hope for dewott for ash is completely crushed

It's super Effective on the foe Zariful!

That's still not a convincing enough argument to me. You just said that we shouldn't compare past regions and you easily contradicted yourself by comparing BW to a past region. If this new rival does not have Samurott or any member of the Oshawott line, what will your next argument be?

To be honest, the ONLY and I mean ONLY thing that will convince me that the otter won't evolve is if it is explicitly stated and/or it has an episode like Piplup did.

It doesn't affect the foe PrinceGray...

The foe PrinceGray used Counter-Argument!

The foe PrinceGray's Stubbornness sharply rose!



Honestly, I'm not taking any sides on this argument anymore, though I still hope for Dewott/Samurott
 
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Haunter ゴースト

Well-Known Member
Quick prediction on what I think and want to see by the end of BW.

The first being what I think the writers will do, and second what i'd personally like to see.

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[img139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/25.png[/img139][img139]http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/36/Spr_5b_521_f.png[/img139][img139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/501.png[/img139]/[img139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/503.png[/img139][img139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/500.png[/img139][img139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/495.png[/img139]/[img139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/497.png[/img139][img139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/560.png[/img139][img139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/542.png[/img139][img139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/537.png[/img139][img139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/525.png[/img139][img139]http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/553.png[/img139]
 

GalladeRocks

Son of a Beach
That's not a good example. For one thing Pikachu evolves by stone, therefore cannot evolve naturally, it also refused to evolve.

Squirtle would be a better example since it didn't exactly refuse evolution however Totodile is probably the best example since its the best Pokemon that could evolve regardless of the situation and still hasn't.

I know, I was just being silly using Pikachu as an example. You're right, Totodile, Corphish, Buizel, and Gible are all way better examples.
 

PrinceGray

Anti-Hero of Serebii
Shelldude used Logic!



It's super Effective on the foe Zariful!



It doesn't affect the foe PrinceGray...

The foe PrinceGray used Counter-Argument!

The foe PrinceGray's Stubbornness sharply rose!



Honestly, I'm not taking any sides on this argument anymore, though I still hope for Dewott/Samurott


I admit this made me laugh. I am a very stubborn person both irl and when it comes to stuff like this.
 

Shraeder

It's Lit
Comments in bold, whatever happens I doubt Oshawott will evolve unless very late at the League.

Bulbasaur has a reason to not evolve, and Squirtle has the Squirtle Squad. Oshawott has no reason to not evolve. The only Pokemon that contradicts this is Totodile, but he might evolve soon if he comes back. Plus, all the Kanto Pokemon stole the spotlight in Johto.

Like I've said before, there was no way Buizel was going to evolve seeing how he rivaled with the two main Floatzels in the series.

And I guess you guys didn't read the "first episode of the series part." All these Pokemon were captured later on and not in the VERY FIRST EPISODE. Oh, and Gible's not a valid argument seeing how late it was captured.

The only one left is Corphish, who also might make a return and evolve in BW2.

Like PrinceGray said, I'll only agree with it when it is explicitly stated he won't evolve. End of Oshawott Discussion.
 
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