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Ninjask or Shedinja?

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shiny manafi

Sea Prince
Which one should I have?:

Ninjask@leftover
Adament
at. 252 spd 252 hp. 4
- Night Shade
- X-Scissors
- Aerial Ace
- Double Team

OR

Shedinja@
Adament
at. 252 spd. 252 spa. 4
- Confuse Ray
- Toxic
- X-Scissors
- Double Team

Or you can sugguest moves, nature, EV, items
 
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ludicolo_kid

Well-Known Member
Ninjask@ Focus Strip
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Adamant Nature

Swords Dance
X-Scissor
Sunny Day
Baton Pass
 
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shiny manafi

Sea Prince
Why sunny day?
 
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ludicolo_kid

Well-Known Member
In case they lead with a Tyranitar, if they do you use Sunny Day and stop yourself from fainting at 1HP which you would if the Sandstorm was going.
 
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shiny manafi

Sea Prince
But you are talking about Ninjask
 
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ludicolo_kid

Well-Known Member
*Slaps self on forehead*

The idea is that you lead Jask, Swords Dance first turn and Focus Strip leaves you with at least 1 HP as they attack. If Tyranitar was the opponents lead then the Sandstorm would kill you as you were on HP, so you Sunny Day first turn and then BP away the Speed Boost.
 
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shiny manafi

Sea Prince
Would that work better on Shedinja?
 
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shining snorlax

I heart noobs
Haha, are you joking? He gave you a better set, ev spread and even a comprehensive strategy. Shedinja is garbage, wonderguard or no.

Run his Ninjask set and guarantee a successful baton pass, or run shedinja and get killed by the millions of sandstreams, toxics, et ceteras: there are just too many ways to kill shedinja for wonderguard to compensate for those horrible stats..
 
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Hejiru

Rev up those fryers
Ninjask is better.

If only Shedinja could learn Skill Swap....
Wonder Guard can be annoying though. Once I was in the Battle Tower on DP, and my opponent sent out a Shedinja, and the only move any of my pokemon knew that could hurt it was Rollout. So I switch out for Miltank, use Defense Curl, then Rollout, killed Shedinja. But then he sent out Wobby and since he knew I had to keep using Rollout, he just used Counter a couple times. But I still think Ninjask is better.
 
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Alzi

Toon link
The only item that works with Shedinja is Lum berry thats the only useful item and you can try this if you like:

Ninjask@Leftovers
Jolly
-Substitute
-Baton Pass
-Sword Dance
-Protect

^ That set just supports your team.
 
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ludicolo_kid

Well-Known Member
That set fails as it doesn't have an attacking move. Protect is lol when there's really nothing that's so arse slow that you should be passing to that needs more than +3 speed to sweep with.
 
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Alzi

Toon link
ludicolo_kid said:
That set fails as it doesn't have an attacking move. Protect is lol when there's really nothing that's so arse slow that you should be passing to that needs more than +3 speed to sweep with.
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Protect is there so you get a free speed boost or if your having trouble trying to get that speed boost. It's just to help other members of the team that set.
 
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