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No More Random Battles?

Discussion in 'Animé Spoilers' started by waterpokemonrule, Jan 5, 2013.

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  1. waterpokemonrule

    waterpokemonrule New Member

    Why don't any of the main characters have battles with random trainers anymore? Everyone they battle seem to become rivals. I'm not even necessarily talking about a COTD when I say random trainer. I'm thinking back to episodes like in the Orange Islands in the episode featuring Prima. Before battling her, Ash battled a trainer with a Persian and Tauros. They battled and then that trainer left. That was it. I'd personally like to see some more random battles like that, rather than see the trainers get new rivals or spend a day with them every time.

    What are your thoughts? We would get so many more battles that way too I bet.
     
  2. Rohanator

    Rohanator Well-Known Member

    The show is mainly about meeting new people along the way of a journey, most of the time in every series the people they battle will be befriended in some way. Completely random opponents from BW that I can recall are the Dewott guy in the first Don Battle Club and the random opponents in tournaments like the Simisage guy. Overall I'd be fun to see them do more random battles like you do in the games, but it'd also be quite meaningless overall in the writer's minds I think and it probably won't happen a lot.
     
  3. Pepsi_Plunge

    Pepsi_Plunge Dojyaaa~~aan

    Unfortunatly that never happened and never will happen in the anime.

    I would like to see random battles once in a while but the anime isn't written that way.

    Situations like those two kids that fougth Satoshi in a double battle to happen frequently would be cool.
     
  4. LizardonX

    LizardonX Banned

    The writers cbf to put forth any real effort in their episodes nowadays. All that matters is to lighten the load of the animators a bit more and sell some more merch.
     
  5. ShinyCharyZard

    ShinyCharyZard Honesty=Infractions

    How random are we speaking?

    *Imagines Ash walking past a trainer stood completely still*

    Trainer: !
    Ash: What the?
    Trainer: Check out my powerful bug types!
    Iris: Is this kid okay?
    Cilan: He has an unusual taste..

    *Battle stuff.. The battle ends, trainer throws his money at Ash and runs*

    That random? I'm only kidding, I know what you mean.. but really they've never been that common. I can't even remember the last time one happened outside of a tournament.
     
  6. An00bis

    An00bis Wicked Witch

    I noticed the trend back in Sinnoh, but Unova seems to have taken it to an extreme with virtually every Trainer that Ash has fought showing up for Unova League.

    We do get a lot of practice battles. Maybe they should have some random battles in the beginning of the episode instead of Training. Then again, that'd actually be beneficial to Ash since he'll battle a variety of trainers so they won't do that.
     
  7. BlueDragonfangirl

    BlueDragonfangirl Well-Known Member

    Cuz This is Best Wishes, they don't care about training, its all about luck of the draw.
     
  8. WaterShuriken

    WaterShuriken Well-Known Member

    I think th the first random battle he had in BW was vs Stephan in his debut. Then he became a rival, whom ironically was a better handled rival than Trip.

    I like those random CotD's like Soran and Riiku.
     
  9. Pepsi_Plunge

    Pepsi_Plunge Dojyaaa~~aan

    But that is good, the tournament kids being in the league specially, it means that they were all good and all had some kind of goal not just some random kid taking part in a random tournament, I really liked that the writers finally did that with the league.

    This has nothing to do with BW, this NEVER happened in the anime, thats what we are talking about.
     
  10. IrieFuse

    IrieFuse Unify To Thrive

    yes it has. back in AG, an episode started with ash and Torkoal battling a random trainer with a scizor. I believe this was the episode where ash met drake. and it was a random battle and a random trainer not a COTD
     
  11. Nightstar1994

    Nightstar1994 Well-Known Member

    What about the kid that Ash battled using Chikorita at the beginning of one Johto episode? They didn't finish the battle but it still happened.

    Also, at first i thought Kenyan/Stephan would be CotD, never thought he'd be recurring o_O
     
  12. The Great Butler

    The Great Butler Hush, keep it down

    Is that really all that bad, though? The only ones this even applies to really are Katharine and Virgil, the rest all came from the Don George tournaments, and honestly, it makes sense to see a lot of trainers who we saw before in the League.
     
  13. FlyAsADunsparce

    FlyAsADunsparce Well-Known Member

    Well in DP Ash battled that guy with the Probopass though right. That was kinda random. I'm pretty sure there are more examples.
     
  14. Pepsi_Plunge

    Pepsi_Plunge Dojyaaa~~aan

    He had some in BW too, we can say Swama is random even if it was plot driven, it was a one time thing, the twin kids like I mentioned before, Koharu was a one time thing she is taking part on the league though which is cool.

    I said this back in the first tournament I believe, I think it was a great writer decision better then see 100 people who don't know about.
     
  15. ShinyPokemon inc.

    ShinyPokemon inc. The Lighting King

    They should bring random battles back in the gen 6 anime it makes the games and anime a little bit closer.
     
  16. gliscor&yanmega

    gliscor&yanmega Well-Known Member

    Not everyone they battle becomes rivals, Ash has battled a few people throughout the series and only Trip, Bianca, and Stephan ended up as his rivals, everyone else he battled was just one time. Same for Iris and Cilan who only have one rival each despite battling a few different people.

    The only reason the writers would do that stuff before was because Ash and the others never really had rivals and as such they random nobodies filled that roll. But now they give the main characters rivals, they show training battles, and still show battles with random strangers.

    I prefer the way it is now. I don't want to see Ash battle a bunch of nobodies, a few here and there is fine by me, but I enjoy rival battles, and more established characters who have an episode for themselves.
     
  17. An00bis

    An00bis Wicked Witch

    I dislike their over-reliance of recurring characters. It's mainly because with so many of them they can't really focus on them enough to make it worthwhile. Back in Sinnoh it was Conway and Nando who got the short end of the stick development wise. Nando went months between appearances and we didn't know Conway was a contender until the last opening. In Unova there seems to be so many of them that no one got decent development. They were sort of just there.

    I liked the feeling that there were hundreds of Trainers in the world and not all of them were good enough to make it to League. That seems more realistic then the current setup.
     
  18. The Great Butler

    The Great Butler Hush, keep it down

    I'll give you Conway and Nando, but DP botched so much of what it tried that it's hardly worth thinking about now.

    Maybe they did use a few too many old characters in the Unova League, but consider the flip side - in previous Leagues there were no recurring characters except for rivals. It didn't make it feel like not all trainers were good enough for the League, it made it feel like none of what happened prior to the League happened in a larger world.
     
  19. jmk3190

    jmk3190 Well-Known Member

    Let's not forget when they arrived in Petalburg City, Ash had to battle a lot of trainers before he challenged Norman. Also, the trainer with the Ludicolo and the drums, the double battle with that trainer that refused to leave the island, And in Sinnoh, Turtwig and Piplup battled a Croconaw and Quilava on TV.
     
  20. LizardonX

    LizardonX Banned

    Man I really wish veteran Shaun would show up in the anime randomly and just challenge Ash to a full battle...
     
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