Obama Vs. Romney: 2012 US Election

[SBaby]

PS: I sincerely hope simple statements like the one in quotes are not what Americans are basing their votes on these days.

Only people that don't know the time of day.

Here's what I know. Obama had four years in office to fix this mess. Two of those four years, he had full control of the House and Senate (so there's no excuse there). What did he do in that time? He ignored the middle class and unemployment issues in favor of getting Obamacare passed. You know, that multi TRILLION dollar healthcare bill that is going to socalize medicine in 2016 (get ready for absurdly long waiting periods to be seen by a physician), and run the economy into the ground in the process. Yeah, that one.

And guess who pays for that? Us. Taxpayers.

We can't afford another four years, because the American people don't have the money to pay for it.

In fact, I'll make a prediction here. If Obama wins, I predict he might be the last President of the United States as we know it.

Whether this happens or not, that is up to the voters.

 

[Sadib]

Let me ask you this. Assuming you are a middle class citizen, what has Obama done to improve the middle class? I for sure know that my family is not any better off than when he took office.

In fact we are much worse. Obama is an economic ignoramus. Not to mention some of his social policies such as obamacare border on socialist. They certainly aren't constitutional. What I will remember the Obama era for is food stamps and hand outs.

November 2012. The end of a mistake. Hopefully.

PS: I sincerely hope simple statements like the one in quotes are not what Americans are basing their votes on these days.

Do you honestly think Romney is going to be better the middle class? What's the problem with Obamacare? Is it that everyone has to get health insurance like car insurance? Do you know that America is the only first world nation without universal healthcare?

 

[BigLutz]

Do you honestly think Romney is going to be better the middle class?

Seeing how alot of investors and job creators are waiting for Obama to get out of office...

What's the problem with Obamacare?

Shall we start that it raises premiums?

Is it that everyone has to get health insurance like car insurance?

Which is state mandated, not federally mandated.

Do you know that America is the only first world nation without universal healthcare?

And? Shall we go through some of the problems in health care those other countries have? We also have the highest life expectancy if you get to a hospital.

 

[Silver Soul]

Oh and by the way, Obama responded to Romney's remarks. He said that Romney has the tenency to shoot first and aim later.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/obama-romney-libya_n_1878761.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

"There's a broader lesson to be learned here: Governor Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later, and as president, one of the things I've learned is you can't do that," Obama said in an interview with CBS News on Wednesday. "It's important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts and that you've thought through the ramifications before you make them."

When asked if he found Romney's statement "irresponsible," Obama responded, "I'll let the American people judge that."

 

[BigLutz]

Oh and by the way, Obama responded to Romney's remarks. He said that Romney has the tenency to shoot first and aim later.

Kind of like how Obama does when talking about how Egypt isn't our ally and then having to walk it back. Look! They do have something in common! Then again when it comes to shooting, I think a Romney Justice Department would allow soldiers to use live ammo to defend embassies.

 

[Silver Soul]

Kind of like how Obama does when talking about how Egypt isn't our ally and then having to walk it back. Look! They do have something in common! Then again when it comes to shooting, I think a Romney Justice Department would allow soldiers to use live ammo to defend embassies.

You don't even know how the Romney Administration is going to handle in foreign policy! Judging from Romney's foreign trip, saying that Russia is our no.1 geopolitical foe, and his recent statements BEFORE the facts were revealed; Romney is going to have serious trouble in the debates.

 

[BigLutz]

You don't even know how the Romney Administration is going to handle in foreign policy! Judging from Romney's foreign trip, saying that Russia is our no.1 geopolitical foe, and his recent statements BEFORE the facts were revealed; Romney is going to have serious trouble in the debates.

You know what hey, I have no problem if Obama wins the debate on Foreign Policy, because Romney more than likely will win the debate on domestic policy, and at the end of the day that is what the American people care about. By the way what facts weren't revealed in Romney's statement? He was reacting to a twitter post by a U.S. Embassy official, last time I checked U.S. Embassy Officials are the mouth piece for the state department and approved of by the President. He had every right to look at that post and say it was coming from the White House.

 

[Dryzera]

Let me ask you this. Assuming you are a middle class citizen, what has Obama done to improve the middle class? I for sure know that my family is not any better off than when he took office.

In fact we are much worse. Obama is an economic ignoramus. Not to mention some of his social policies such as obamacare border on socialist. They certainly aren't constitutional. What I will remember the Obama era for is food stamps and hand outs.

November 2012. The end of a mistake. Hopefully.

PS: I sincerely hope simple statements like the one in quotes are not what Americans are basing their votes on these days.

Well, he's put in at least a minimal amount of effort.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...s-households/2012/07/10/gJQAxDWuXW_story.html

He's given the middle class tax breaks, and is fighting to extend them.

*Reads through some previous posts*

Oh, and I don't assume Obama is some white knight champion for the middle class, either. The difference is, as opposed to Romney, he's much better at pretending to care.

 

[Silver Soul]

You know what hey, I have no problem if Obama wins the debate on Foreign Policy, because Romney more than likely will win the debate on domestic policy, and at the end of the day that is what the American people care about. By the way what facts weren't revealed in Romney's statement? He was reacting to a twitter post by a U.S. Embassy official, last time I checked U.S. Embassy Officials are the mouth piece for the state department and approved of by the President. He had every right to look at that post and say it was coming from the White House.

In case you didn't freaking notice, Romney was making statements while the details from the Embassy weren't fully revealed. I like to point this out that Romney had a "Lehman moment" and don't take my word for it. Ask the very senior Republican foreign policy hand:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/foreign-policy-hands-voice-disbelief-at-romney-cai

 

[BigLutz]

In case you didn't freaking notice, Romney was making statements while the details from the Embassy weren't fully revealed. I like to point this out that Romney had a "Lehman moment" and don't take my word for it. Ask the very senior Republican foreign policy hand:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/foreign-policy-hands-voice-disbelief-at-romney-cai

And what details were not fully revealed? The only one missing is Obama throwing his own people under the bus! Why should Romney wait for the President to spin such a horrible statement and political screw up? But hey don't take my word for it, Hillary Clinton knew that the statement was so terrible she flatly rejected it, and then got pissed when it was released.

What is sad, is that they knew it was a terrible statement, they knew that it was handing a political football to Romney, and they knew that by posting it the statement would look as if it was coming from the State Department. They only had one card left to play when it came out, try to spin it for their minions that Romney was the one that screwed up.

Edit: According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html

If true and the media had even a ounce of sensibility, the Obama Administration would be pounded over this until there was no chance of a second term.

 

[TheWatersGreatGuardian]

Oh and by the way, Obama responded to Romney's remarks. He said that Romney has the tenency to shoot first and aim later.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/obama-romney-libya_n_1878761.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Obama has the issue of not shooting at all. He is weak on foreign policy.

 

[dd1zzle]

Even though he's going to lose, I'm still voting for my man Mitt. I really don't understand why people hate him so much.

 

[TheWatersGreatGuardian]

Even though he's going to lose, I'm still voting for my man Mitt. I really don't understand why people hate him so much.

Honestly I can't wrap my mind around why someone would vote for Obama at this point. What he is most known for is government handouts....that is NOT the way to get an economy back on track. Did he also not promise to reduce government spending? Has that happened? Nope.

Romney would not be a great President.....but at this point anything is better than Obama

 

[Silver Soul]

Obama has the issue of not shooting at all. He is weak on foreign policy.

Oh really? Are you saying he's aplogizing for America.

Honestly I can't wrap my mind around why someone would vote for Obama at this point. What he is most known for is government handouts....that is NOT the way to get an economy back on track. Did he also not promise to reduce government spending? Has that happened? Nope.

Romney would not be a great President.....but at this point anything is better than Obama

So you are saying the best way to help the economy is to give more tax cuts to the rich? And another thing, Obama giving out handouts is proven false via fact checking.

And what details were not fully revealed? The only one missing is Obama throwing his own people under the bus! Why should Romney wait for the President to spin such a horrible statement and political screw up? But hey don't take my word for it, Hillary Clinton knew that the statement was so terrible she flatly rejected it, and then got pissed when it was released.

What is sad, is that they knew it was a terrible statement, they knew that it was handing a political football to Romney, and they knew that by posting it the statement would look as if it was coming from the State Department. They only had one card left to play when it came out, try to spin it for their minions that Romney was the one that screwed up.

Edit: According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html

If true and the media had even a ounce of sensibility, the Obama Administration would be pounded over this until there was no chance of a second term.

I would agree you if the media starts pounding Grover Norquist for adding fuel to the gridlock due to the Tax Pledge and Mitch McConnell for his top priority in making Obama one term President.

 

[Dryzera]

In fact, I'll make a prediction here. If Obama wins, I predict he might be the last President of the United States as we know it

...um, what? Okay, I'll bite. Care to explain?

 

[Silver Soul]

...um, what? Okay, I'll bite. Care to explain?

He must have watched the Chuck Norris clip with him saying that Obama reelected will lead to 1000 years of darkness.

 

[Dryzera]

Another reason I'm voting for Obama is because with Obamacare, I can stay on my parents health insurance until I'm 24. Before, I would have to be attending college to stay on their plan. If Mitt Romny wins, my health insurance is at risk. I've had major corrective back surgery. Personally, I like knowing that if a screw comes loose in that giant metal rod up my backside, I'm covered and I won't get sent a bill that will destroy me.

 

[TheWatersGreatGuardian]

Only people that don't know the time of day.

Here's what I know. Obama had four years in office to fix this mess. Two of those four years, he had full control of the House and Senate (so there's no excuse there). What did he do in that time? He ignored the middle class and unemployment issues in favor of getting Obamacare passed. You know, that multi TRILLION dollar healthcare bill that is going to socalize medicine in 2016 (get ready for absurdly long waiting periods to be seen by a physician), and run the economy into the ground in the process. Yeah, that one.

And guess who pays for that? Us. Taxpayers.

We can't afford another four years, because the American people don't have the money to pay for it.

In fact, I'll make a prediction here. If Obama wins, I predict he might be the last President of the United States as we know it.

Whether this happens or not, that is up to the voters.

Couldn't agree more.
and for those who are under the illusion that obama is not giving handouts, check this article.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama...en-adds-handouts/article/1088751#.UFM806ApO_I

heck google "Obama handouts" and it will bring up a laundry list. What do you think the bailouts were? What do you think the stimulus was? Sure they might help in the short term, but in the long term it puts us even more in debt. Then there is the anti-gun laws the administration keeps trying to pass. That is a constitutional right and they have no authority to touch that.

 

[BigLutz]

So you are saying the best way to help the economy is to give more tax cuts to the rich? And another thing, Obama giving out handouts is proven false via fact checking.

Kind of ironic that you say Obama giving out handouts has been proven false, when the following posts say that he is voting for Obama, because Obamacare allows him to stay on his parents insurance.

I would agree you if the media starts pounding Grover Norquist for adding fuel to the gridlock due to the Tax Pledge and Mitch McConnell for his top priority in making Obama one term President.

Oh yes because if there has been one constant thing these past two years, its that the media has not been going after the Republican congress relentlessly... oh wait.

But here is the thing, petty politics like a tax pledge, or saying Obama is a one term President is NOTHING compared to the possibility that the White House knew these attacks were coming and did nothing about it.

 

[Cosmical El Amarna]

I've been unemployed since july of 2011, so Obama is at fault in my mind.
(this is where Cosmic fails to mention to everyone that he willfully and voluntarily quit his full time job and moved to a state with high unemployment)