October 28th: PM2019 130 - The Finals II: Toying

[DayQuil95]

Wasn't just the final move in Kukui's battle that looked far better than the "meh" stuff prior it, though.

Nah, the whole battle looked mostly good, one complaint I have with it though if that the battlefield didn't seem to have much relevance or depth at all throughout the battle, and is another grip of mine with Journeys, and something that I think out of all series, only XYZ, and some parts of DP managed to convey properly thanks to the strategies involving the fields.

 

[Eevee903]

Imagine:

Ash is struggling in the battle with beating a Pokémon of Leon. Then he hears familiar people cheering him on. He turns around and sees all his old friends and rivals sitting there. He gets a bit emotional. Leon finds it amusing and he gets the courage to keep on fighting.

 

[Master Pikachu 11]

I doubt there will be a part 4 tbh.

Yeah they won’t do a 4 part battle, 3 is the most that we will get

 

[Pokegirl Fan~]

Imagine:

Ash is struggling in the battle with beating a Pokémon of Leon. Then he hears familiar people cheering him on. He turns around and sees all his old friends and rivals sitting there. He gets a bit emotional. Leon finds it amusing and he gets the courage to keep on fighting.

And then once the battle is over the crowd and his friends start fading away with only him and Pikachu left and then the narrator tells him its finally time to wake up from his coma dream.
The only ending that makes sense nowadays Lol.

 

[Eevee903]

And then once the battle is over the crowd and his friends start fading away with only him and Pikachu left and then the narrator tells him its finally time to wake up from his coma dream.
The only ending that makes sense nowadays Lol.

Even that is eh. The problem is if your protagonist becomes too OP, it gets boring. The fact that he barely lost a battle in XY,SM or JN says alot.

 

[Rampardo]

Staff list:

Animation Director 篠原隆 (Takashi Shinohara)

Yikes.

Very happy that they are going all out animation wise. If there’s one battle where they had their best all hands on deck I’m glad it’s this one.

Sorry to break it for you but the animation director listed for this episode (Shinohara) is not a good sign when it comes to the overall animation quality of the episodes he directs. Commonly delivers underwhelming, jerky stuff, especially when it comes to battles.

If there is a 4th part then core staff wise the battle will be very similar to VS Kukui with Shinohara being in charge of the 2nd ep and Iwane of the 3rd and some freelancers probably going off for the final (we have to see Yusuke Oshida somewhere). Toshihito Hirooka could be a good sign for the first episode, that guy is a super rare so at least he should have had the time to go all out (not that he's ever been the craziest sakuga wise but his art is very polished, fits the companion/rival appearances).

When Hirooka was a regular in DP his episodes were consistently the third best looking after Iwane and Tamagawa's work. So I can confidently say that part one should look pretty good - not up to Iwane's level, but still better than average.

I also agree that this animation staff listing makes all the sense in the world as long as there is a part 4 where Oshida and friends can be unleashed.

 

[Dragneelo]

Leon will get toyed so hard in the torrent that Ash will be declared the Strongest

 

[ash&charizardfan]

I think this episode could be similar to ash vs paul SL which was a 3 parter, in the second episode paul was toying with ash for most of the episode when drapion took out half of his team, we could see ash making a comeback in last parts of episode making third episode a close match.

 

[nuzamaki90]

Yikes.


Sorry to break it for you but the animation director listed for this episode (Shinohara) is not a good sign when it comes to the overall animation quality of the episodes he directs. Commonly delivers underwhelming, jerky stuff, especially when it comes to battles.

huh? Shinohara has done great work for the anime. Lillie & Gladion VS Totem Kommo-o is one of his best works. Iris VS Cynthia especially was a great watch.

 

[SerGoldenhandtheJust]

Part 2s are always exciting because the start is out of the way and climax is saved for later, so everything is more unpredictable with potential for tons of switches and a back and forth

 

[mehmeh1]

huh? Shinohara has done great work for the anime. Lillie & Gladion VS Totem Kommo-o is one of his best works. Iris VS Cynthia especially was a great watch.

Iris vs Cynthia was pretty stiff tbh, tho it had good direction by JN standards. Plus with how things are going, we shouldn't use past series to try to predict how things will go animation-wise

 

[Yuugis Black Magician]

Shinohara has a history of doing some decent animation. Forcing him to hastily do corrections for other (likely lesser-skilled) animators' work doesn't exactly help, though. https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=takashi_shinohara

 

[Rohanator]

Shinohara is definitely skilled but rarely has the time for long or frequent impressive cuts, I think he's been less busy leading to this battle than he was for his VS Kukui episode (which I found pretty average overall) so here's hoping it's him at his best.

 

[Bortgreen]

At least I hope we don't get tennis this time

 

[Eevee903]

Well they can surprise us. Lets hope it's decent.

 

[Dragneelo]

The fight can make or break Journeys so I hope it is good

 

[Pokegirl Fan~]

...Journeys wasn't already broken?

Broken before the 10th episode imo when they tried that fake hype bait stuff for continuity.

 

[Eevee903]

Broken before the 10th episode imo when they tried that fake hype bait stuff for continuity.

And it never recovered due the combination of episodes like the rushed DD arc,fillers and Chloe. Only the returns saved this series and it's a sad truth.

 

[vondecayle]

Ready to see Rillaboom go down easily.

 

[KirliaToon50]

I'm curious what will SV Anime fix the damages that plagued Journeys?