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October 6th: SM142 - Burn with Passion! Get Filled with Intensity! A Full Battle!!!

Discussion in 'Animé Spoilers' started by Dephender, Sep 5, 2019.

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  1. Doppelgänger

    Doppelgänger Superancient Member

    Gible was a beginner's luck kind of Pokemon. Despite being unevolved, it knew Draco Meteor and was from a powerful species of Pokemon and was Ash's only Dragon-type. Using it was a defensible move.

    Torkoal had experience battling Registeel, and as a Battle Frontier veteran there's reason to think he might be stronger than Torterra or Buizel. But for a neutral matchup against Dakrai, he had no niches or role on that team. If Ash needed an Ice-type resist, Glalie and Corphish were better choices.
  2. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "Hey, Deku, you looking up your name on Googl-?"

    The only Pokemon that looks different is Kiawe's Charizard, but that may be because he's a grandpa like Tracey's Scyther.

    Every other Pokemon looks the same as before, except for their outlines being made thinner like every other human character.

    Ash is the different one for veeeeeeery obvious reasons.
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  3. mysticalglacia

    mysticalglacia Alola Shill

    You have a point; some of them inevitably would need to lose. I don’t have any issues with that, as long as they put up a good fight and are against worthy opponents. Turtonator vs. Mega Steelix, Greninja vs. Mega Charizard, and Sceptile in the Tobias battle are all good examples of that. But when it comes to aces, having them lose to obviously, blatantly underpowered Pokémon feels like a slap in the face, since there have been entire narratives molded around the progression and climax of their strength. Undoing that for the sake of creatively unpredictable matchups would feel cheap and disingenuous. It’d be like Greninja losing to Sawyer’s Slurpuff or Infernape losing to Barry’s Empoleon; despite the type advantages the latter two have on the former two, there is a very noticeable difference in power levels, which makes them winning seem improbable.

    I’d be fine with something like Infernape vs. Mega Lucario. Infernape winning but then fainting against Kukui’s next Pokemon, or him very very narrowly losing would both be acceptable outcomes, as long as they show that he’s no pushover- he’s one of Ash’s best aces, after all. I think that’s all anyone really wants, honestly: genuinely well-written, tense matchups between equals.
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  4. If it isn't Poipole or Solgaleo to use as 6th pokemon who then?
  5. Revolver Furious Dragon

    Revolver Furious Dragon Well-Known Member

    It could be anything. For all we know they put all his reserves in a hat and drew one out at Random. But my guess would be something like bulbasaur, which has already appeared in sun and moon.

    He could even borrow something from a friend. Like Lillie's vulpix, as a call back to the episode where they all switched partners
  6. Leonhart

    Leonhart Imagineer

    If the battle starts here then I'd hope that it lasts until the next episode as well, but given that this battle has no real stakes since Satoshi already won the Alola League anyway, I could see the match lasting just this one episode. That's the cynical part of me coming out, but I'm hoping that I'm wrong.
  7. sheld999

    sheld999 Well-Known Member

    i know this may sound stupid but with rumors of pikachu getting a form in galar what if this happens during their battle? like ash is using pikachu for a bit then bam it goes into a form gets big... Ash is confused and Royal mask is like ... ash my boy that is called dianmaxing used it wisely
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  8. Bortgreen

    Bortgreen UP NEXT: A Hangry Return

    Dynamax requires a special device, some kind of special area AND returning to pokeball
    Not going to happen at least in SM
  9. TheWanderingMist

    TheWanderingMist Kanae, Keeper of the Gates Emblazoned

    Nah, Ash's Pikachu will get a special version that doesn't require the PokeBall.
  10. Leonhart

    Leonhart Imagineer

    I've seen people predict this before, but I just don't like the idea of a Galar-exclusive game mechanic making its debut in this battle before the Galar saga even begins. Some might say that it could inspire Satoshi to visit Galar once SM is over, but I don't think that he would need any special kind of motivation to travel to that region since all he'd have to know is that there's new Pokemon there, and he'd rush to Galar in an instant.
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  11. CMButch

    CMButch Kanto is love. Kanto is life.

    I really hope Pikachu doesn't get Galar version ,we already have Alolan Raichu. Give other Pokemon forms...
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  12. Doppelgänger

    Doppelgänger Superancient Member

    I don't think Pikachu will have any power up that changes his physical appearance. He could theoretically Dynamax, but never Gigantamax. Pikachu is unique among the Nintendo mascots in that much of his trademark value is tied to his consistent appearance. When GameFreak wants a new "forme" they create a Pikaclone, or two.

    If Mimikyu follows Team Rocket to Galar I hope it gets Dynamax. It would create a power dynamic like during Goku and Vegeta's first battle, where Vegeta was stronger and THEN transformed into a Great Ape. It makes the rivalry feel more fierce.
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  13. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "Hey, Deku, you looking up your name on Googl-?"

    Pikachu is cursed to have unique moves or exclusive held items, but never a new form. That's for Raichu to have.
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  14. mehmeh1

    mehmeh1 CHAZZ IT UP!

    The leak that has been 100% right until now (even if some unrevealed things could be deliberately fake) said that Pika would get a Gigantamax form that would look like old Pika (the fat one, though Idk if it'll be his rgb design or his yellow design)
  15. Red and Blue

    Red and Blue Well-Known Member

    Dont see why not. The Pikachu transformation would be temporary. I dont see it as any different than his signature Z move with Ash's hat
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  16. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "Hey, Deku, you looking up your name on Googl-?"

    Because we all want Pikachu to be the regional ace after Unova with a unique transformation that screams "ace me Ash."

    Please, no.
  17. Doppelgänger

    Doppelgänger Superancient Member

    Temporary didn't stop genwunners from hating the Mega Charizard forms, or the idea of "Digivolving" Pokemon as a concept. Super forms and nostalgia tend to not mix, because the super form can very easily be interpreted as a new character completely.

    Fat Pikachu would be funny to see, NGL.
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  18. Bortgreen

    Bortgreen UP NEXT: A Hangry Return

    Isn't Gigantamax possible only by certain pokémon of a species? I don't think Ash's Pikachu would be able to do it
  19. Revolver Furious Dragon

    Revolver Furious Dragon Well-Known Member

    Ash's greninja couldn't mega evolve but they found a way around it.

    Not saying I think Pikachu will gigantimax but it's not out of the realm of possibility for the writer's to come up with something even if it can't do it in game
  20. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "Hey, Deku, you looking up your name on Googl-?"

    By certain species, it's always the last evolution/only form.

    I highly doubt Pikachu can Gigantamax, so Ash will just milk, er, main the starter that doesn't get Pignited.
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