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Official 4th Gen Shiny Discussion

Discussion in 'Pokémon Generation IV Discussion' started by bobandbill, Feb 15, 2011.

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  1. bobandbill

    bobandbill Winning Smile Staff Member Super Mod

    Simply, post here to discuss shiny Pokemon you have caught in D/P/Pt/HG/SS!

    You must follow these rules for the thread if you don't want to be infracted.

    • All general Serebiiforums Rules and DP Rules, of course.

    • You may not go offtopic in this thread at all. This is discussion of and questions about shinies only. This means no talking about your favorite ice cream flavor or which Pokemon is the coolest, or anything like that. This also means none of the ever-annoying "congrats" or "good luck" messages. If you feel the need to say that to someone, do it on their profile.

    • This is for all 4th gen shinies - don't talk about other games like Ruby or White.

    • No "semi-legit" (aka still hacked but makes people feel better about themselves) or "hacked" shinies. No one can stop you from cheating to get Newmoon Island on your Pearl, but don't share it with us. Don't post here saying you got a cheated Oak's Letter to get a shiny Shaymin or something.

    • No posting unless you've actually obtained a shiny. "Targets" overran the last thread and many of them either were never completed or took weeks to complete so that the poster posted over and over again about the same shiny. Not anymore. None of this "I'm going to start SRing for Cresselia today" or "I've hatched 580 Magbies and no shiny yet" or the even worse "I have a SECRET target and I SRed 5784905689403 times for it" or something.

    • For chains, you may only post once your chain is completed. If you get 10 shinies in a chain, we don't need 10 posts.

    • Chaining discussion in general goes here




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    Frequently-Asked Questions about Shinies



    Check the main site’s Shiny Mechanics Page first

    1. Q: Shiny Pokemon? What are those?
    A: Shiny Pokemon first appeared in the Gold and Silver games for the Gameboy Color. Basically, they are alternately colored Pokemon (for example, shiny Charizard is black instead of orange).

    2. Q: Wow! Are shiny Pokemon more powerful?
    A: Unfortunately, no. The ONLY difference between shinies and regular Pokemon is the color. They’re pretty much just for bragging rights.

    3: Q: How can I find a shiny Pokemon?
    A: Every single catchable Pokemon that you find (Eggs, Gifts, Wild, etc) has a 1/8192 chance of being shiny. There are a few ways to find certain Pokémon as shiny quicker, but you still need to rely on luck. They are often called Masuda Method and PokeRadar Chaining.

    4: Q: But I’ve seen over 10000 Pokemon in my game and haven’t found a shiny yet! That can’t be right!
    A: 1/8192 is a probability. That doesn’t mean that after 8192 Pokemon, you will automatically find a shiny.

    A good example of this is when you roll dice. You have a 1/6 chance of getting any particular number when you roll, such as the number 2. That doesn’t mean that you will roll a 2 in six rolls, or that your second roll will be a 2, etc.

    The same goes for shiny Pokemon. You may find a shiny on your first try, or within a hundred tries, or maybe not until 10000 tries.

    To delve in a bit deeper, picture that whenever you encounter a Pokemon, a random number between 1 and 8,192 is generated. Let’s say that the number 500 is the “shiny number.” If 500 happens to be the random number that’s generated, the Pokemon will be shiny. If the number is anything else, it will be a normal Pokemon. Nice odds, aren’t they?

    5: Q: If I breed a shiny Pokemon, will the baby from the Egg be shiny as well?
    A: Unlike in G/S/C, where you had a higher chance of hatching shiny offspring when the parents were shiny, this is NOT true for any of the later generation games. In the 4th Generation, almost every Pokemon has the same odds of being shiny. There is the exception to this rule, being the Masuda Method.

    6: Q: What is this soft resetting/SRing thing I’ve been hearing about?
    A: Soft resetting is when you press Start + Select + L + R to reset your DS (just like turning the system off and on, skipping the firmware screen). It’s helpful when trying to find a shiny of a Pokemon you can save in front of, such as your starter at the beginning, legendaries, etc. It's faster than turning the game on and off, and it's less stressful on the system/batteries. Save, see if the Pokemon is shiny, if not SR your game and try again. Just like finding any shiny, this depends completely on luck, but if you’re patient you should eventually get your shiny. Keep in mind that this could take hours or days with luck, and months and months without.

    7: Q: What does a shiny _____ look like?
    A: The Pokedex on the main site shows sprites of every Pokemon:
    http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/

    8: Q: How do I know if I have a shiny Pokemon?
    A: Besides the change in color, a shiny Pokemon will sparkle when it
    comes into battle. There are also a couple changes on its summary page, which you can see on the main site’s shiny page (link above).

    9. Q: When will I know if I’ve gotten a shiny starter?
    A: When you’re choosing your starter, the game will show you a picture of each Pokemon. This picture will NOT show you whether that Pokemon is shiny or not. You will have to choose it and check its summary, or use it in battle, to find out if it’s shiny or not.

    10. Q: Can I save before hatching my Egg, and reset until I have a shiny?
    A: No. All of the Egg's values are set once you take it. However, you can save before taking it and have a chance.

    11. Q: If my shiny Pokemon evolves, will it stay shiny?
    A: Yes. Once shiny, always shiny.
    If you have any other questions or think something should be added here, don't hesitate to PM me.


    Masuda Method
    Essentially, the Masuda Method consists of this:
    1. You obtain a Foreign Pokemon [E.g. a German Ditto]
    2. You breed your Pokemon with aforementioned foreign Pokemon.
    3. The Game checks to see if one pokemon is foreign.
    4. Thus, the chances of getting a Shiny Pokemon is roughly fourthed [supposedly 1/2048 instead of 1/8192]
    Masuda's Official Blog.


    PokéRadar Chaining
    This can only be done in the Sinnoh games, (Diamond, Pearl and Platinum) as it requires a Key Item PokéRadar. You obtain it from Prof Oak when you receive the National Dex.

    Quick guide:
    Using Repel will be very useful here.
    1. Use the Radar in the grass, patches of grass will react. (Different Music will also play.)
    2. Step in to one of these patches.
    3. You'll be in a battle with a Wild Pokémon. Faint/Catch it.
    4. The Grass should react, again, as you leave the battle. If the music is the standard Route music your chain is now over
    5. Enter the farthest away patch that reacted.
    6. Another Battle happens. Faint/Catch it.
    7. Repeat.
    The chances of a shiny increases every battle in the chain, up to 40th battle. After this 40th battle, you've increased your chances to 1 in 200 for the next Pokémon to be shiny, about 40 times easier, for the length of the chain.

    Credit @ Ellie
    EDIT by Big Nutter to Match add 4th Gen Details to FAQ
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2012
  2. Nutter t.KK

    Nutter t.KK can Mega Evolve!

    I've got a A shiny Noctowl, which I found in Diamond in summer 2007, found by random encounter.

    I've got a few Pikachu-Coloured Pichu, from the Event.

    I have 2 Red Gyarados, both from the Lake of Rage. A third is due when I can get to it.

    I've green tailed Flaaffy, in a random encounter in HG.

    I also have Several Crown Beasts, which as you are aware are shiny.

    That's all the Legal shinys I have. (I've got a hacked Typhlosion.)

    Hey, how about updating the FAQ, it looks like it came from a 3rd Gen thread with MM added. Also the Link doesn't work.
     
  3. NomadSPG

    NomadSPG 4th Gen. Dragon '88

    Yesterday l've get a lot of things...

    Firsty and finally i reached lv.100 of my SS main team, and i've beaten PokeLeague the second time since i started this game in 2010.03.23.

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    this gaves me a chance for shiny roamers in Johto once more, but they was normal this time too, so i killed them:p

    This day also my Exmaz evolved and joined to my first ever shiny team (SNORLAX, CHARIZARD [Charmaru], MILOTIC [VCG09], METAGROSS [Exmaz], ABSOL [???], ???) - u can see a few of them in my signature.

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    and Suicune appeared to Burned Tower, so I started to SR for him (i will try to do it, before distribution of Suicune Wi-Fi event).
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2011
  4. TurtwigFan1

    TurtwigFan1 burning it down

    I only have two shinies - the crown beasts of Raikou and Entei. But I do love them.

    Oh and of course I have the Red Gyarados, nicknamed Scarlet (how original!)
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2011
  5. SneaselClaw

    SneaselClaw Hack n' Slash

    I only have the Red Gyarados from Soul Silver, three of each of the Crown Beasts (well, I will once the Suicune event has started on WiFi), and a Tentacruel I randomly encountered while surfing in Diamond.
     
  6. Byzantine

    Byzantine Well-Known Member

    *cough* fixed

    All the shinies in my sig are from diamond :). I had awful luck yesterday and failed to get a corsola, sigh. (I got to a chain of 36 3 different times, and I broke the chain almost 2 dozen times by going into perfect spots... I have no idea...)
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2011
  7. Dj-sprat

    Dj-sprat Pokemon Trainer

    I just traded my shiny Raikou, Entei and Raticate to my HG from my SS and restarted SS. Im trying for a shiny starter, dont really mind which I like all of em.

    Just checking if I got the soft reset technique right though, do I save infront of the Starting balls and soft reset if there is no shinies? I just had thin insecruity that I was doing it wrong.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2011
  8. Aquanova

    Aquanova Well-Known Member

    I have alot of shinies for 4th gen. I have Azelf, Uxie, Cyndaquil, Lugia, and Lapras
     
  9. Pokemon Trainer Skye

    Pokemon Trainer Skye would like to battle

    Well, my first about with Ho-oh took years to finally reach it when I found it's Nature wasn't for me so I got made fun of by my friends and let it go and finally got an Adamant one. It's IVs suck but it's the thought that counts =)
     
  10. master of murkrow

    master of murkrow Shiny Hunter

    yes. but at the HGSS starters and only those ones you can check the picture. at the other you must check the summary or in the battle.
     
  11. Ambri

    Ambri ~Draco Rex~

    Lots of stuff happening on my games XD.

    I got the awesome Shiny Entei off of WiFi on Monday, as well as the equally awesome Shiny Raikou last week :D.

    [IMG300]http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/AmbriKyu/Artwork%20and%20Drawings%202010/CrownRaikouSaixX3.jpg[/IMG300]

    [IMG300]http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/AmbriKyu/Artwork%20and%20Drawings%202010/BurnedTowerwithSaix.jpg[/IMG300]

    [IMG300]http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/AmbriKyu/Artwork%20and%20Drawings%202010/CrownEnteiVolc.jpg[/IMG300]

    [IMG300]http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac239/AmbriKyu/Artwork%20and%20Drawings%202010/WalkingwithVolc.jpg[/IMG300]

    Also, I managed to get a Shiny Crown for my Shiny Ho-oh, Kogane :3

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    On Pearl, I'm still using the Masuda Method to try and get a Shiny Treecko, and I'm at 1310 eggs. I managed to train my Gallade (Alois) this week too and teach him False Swipe, so I've started Soft Resetting for Groudon at the Embedded Tower in Soul Silver. I'm only at 15 SRs so far though~
     
  12. Nebbio

    Nebbio NINJA!

    Well I have a shiny Machoke, shiny Machop(soon to be traded) (both chained), two Crown Beasts, and 2 shiny Bidoofs. I also have Red gyrados and a bunch of traded shinies like Deoxys.
     
  13. NomadSPG

    NomadSPG 4th Gen. Dragon '88

    Great Job with a crown for Ho-oH Ambri!:)
     
  14. Dj-sprat

    Dj-sprat Pokemon Trainer

    I caught a female shiny rattata on my SS before I started again to soft reset for a shiny starter. My friend helped me transfer it over to my Heart Gold and trained it to a Raticate.

    I dont know why the pic is on the side but yeah...

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  15. marufzubery

    marufzubery advanced trainer

    my shiny team

    list of shinies i have(warning-this may be unbelievable for many many and i mean many people but its true).i have shiny-charmander,deoxys,ARCEUS,lugia and rayquaza

    how i got them u ask? well its easy it takes forever .to get arceus it toook me 10344 times to turn on/off my ds and talk to it.same with lugia and rayquaza but i dont remember how many times ...36 times with times to get charmander and 88468 times to get deoxys.

    breeding charmander, number of times tried-27.may trade for another shiny pokemon -???????????????
    or for these pokemon-celebi,ho-oh,darkrai
     
  16. kill and run

    kill and run ShinyHunting Veteran

    I have many shinys in 4th gen, check sig, cuz too lazy to list them.

    I do have a question however, when do the 3 roaming dogs go back to burnt tower if you kill them? Someone please answer this for me. :) Thanks ~K.A.R
     
  17. master of murkrow

    master of murkrow Shiny Hunter

    ^^ go to the help thread
     
  18. Aquanova

    Aquanova Well-Known Member

    They dont go back to the tower. When you kill them, and defeat the Elite 4, they respawn, but are roaming. You have to encounter them again to check if they are shiny. If not, you have to KO them and repeat the process.
     
  19. Lorde

    Lorde Banned

    Well, as I posted back in the HG/SS thread, I had been soft resetting for a Shiny Mewtwo at the Cerulean Cave. I was there for about a week and I went all the way to 7000+ soft resets in my quest for a Shiny Mewtwo. Finally, just two days ago, I managed to find that Shiny Mewtwo at long last. Here is a picture of the encounter screen when the Shiny finally appeared before me. I weakened it and then captured it in a Dusk Ball since that was easier. I didn't nickname it, since I plan on trading it at some point. Anyway, I really like the green coloration of the Shiny Mewtwo sprite. I'm going after a couple more Shinies next. I'll update with those as soon as I find them :p
     
  20. Kiwy

    Kiwy Active Member

    After almost two years I finally got my shiny charmander with substitute and belly drum!! I really tried this method one and a half year ago! and then I stopped because I got tired, but four days ago I re-started and started counting the eggs, it took 641 eggs to hatch!! But Ill have a shiny bellyzard (quiet nature sadly) and its totally worth it!

    EDIT: Here its a photo!
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    Uploaded with ImageShack.us

    I also have 2 shiny adamant larvitars and 1 donphan I got pokeradaring!!

    My next hunt will be ho-oh and rayquaza because they look way cooler in black A_A
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2011
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