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Official 5th Gen. EV/IV (Training) Thread

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Well I also have a careful one with perfect defense, special attack and special defense. Should I go espeon on the calm one and vaporeon on the careful one?

Careful isn't a good idea in Vaporeon, since it need Scald to Burn foes. Careful is a good idea for Umbreon, which will apreciate the boost in your high defenses.
 

Aegon

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Today, I EV trained my flawless Metagross and Porygon-Z. I maxed out Porygon-Z's Special Attack and Speed, while I maxed Metagross' Attack, dividing the remaining EVs between HP and Speed.
 

CoachGump

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Careful isn't a good idea in Vaporeon, since it need Scald to Burn foes. Careful is a good idea for Umbreon, which will apreciate the boost in your high defenses.

Okay, thanks, now I just need one with perfect defenses and at least a neutral nature for my vaporeon
 

Alaka-zam

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just finished training my timid mewtwo, 385 speed, 384 SpAt along with my 401 attack groudon, 407 SpAt kyogre, 372 SpAt palkia with 309 speed, and 410 attack rayquayza
 

AquaRegisteel

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I got a pretty neat Deino yesterday:

30|24/25|30|31|31|31 Naive Nature

What do you think? Should I continue breeding or not? (Consider the fact I didn't use two flawless parents, and didn't use an Everstone :D )
 

AmbipomMaster

#TeamInstinct
Trying to IV my Scraggy in Atk, HP, and Sp. Defense. I keep getting the stats to "fantastic" level, so I'm singling out every stat and refining them before combining them again.
 

AquaRegisteel

Face Oblivion
Yeah, it is a god darn amazing breed for me. Can't get the hang of RNG yet, so IV breeding is a good way for me to go if I can get those sort of things. Happens to have HP Ice 68, the third time I've bred something with HP Ice 68/70. Thanks guys, I should be breeding more like that soon. P.S Anyone who doubts me, It isn't RNG'd :D
 

Shego

The Pokémon Explorer
Hello again. You see, I like to EV/ IV train my pokemon in the correct way in order to win the online pokemon battles. I have a few questions that I like to ask of you. If a pokemon has an outstanding overall, or above average overall, or a pokemon who has a relatively superior potential overall, was it worth keeping it? I have a Macho Brace, it claims that it will help a pokemon grow stronger. If I plan to run 252 at Speed, how many Basculin I have to defeat in order to run 252? If I plan to run 52 at Special Attack, how many Litwick/Elgyem I have to beat? And if I plan to run 204 on HP, how many Audino/Ducklett/Stunfish I have to defeat? The point is that I want to do this right. Please and thank you.
 

Aquarelle

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Hello again. You see, I like to EV/ IV train my pokemon in the correct way in order to win the online pokemon battles. I have a few questions that I like to ask of you. If a pokemon has an outstanding overall, or above average overall, or a pokemon who has a relatively superior potential overall, was it worth keeping it? I have a Macho Brace, it claims that it will help a pokemon grow stronger. If I plan to run 252 at Speed, how many Basculin I have to defeat in order to run 252? If I plan to run 52 at Special Attack, how many Litwick/Elgyem I have to beat? And if I plan to run 204 on HP, how many Audino/Ducklett/Stunfish I have to defeat? The point is that I want to do this right. Please and thank you.

Pokemon that are "outstanding" or "relatively superior" are pretty good - it refers to the sum of all their IVs. Outstanding or superior Pokemon are much better IV-wise than those that are "above average" or "decent."

The Macho Brace doubles the amount of EVs you get from beating a Pokemon. Basculin normally gives 2 Speed EVs, so when you beat one while using the Macho Brace, you get 4 Speed EVs. So you would need to beat 252/4 = 63 of them to max out Speed. Litwick/Elgyem both give 1 Special Attack EV, so with the Macho Brace they give 2, which means you have to beat 52/2 = 26 of them. Audino and Stunfisk give 2 HP EVs (Ducklett only give one, so I wouldn't use it), which would be 4 with the Macho Brace meaning that you have to beat 204/4 = 51 of them.

Of course, you can make the whole EV training process faster by giving your Pokemon Vitamins. You can give a Pokemon a max of 10 Vitamins in any stat, for a total of 100 EVs in that stat. So if you gave your Pokemon 10 Carbos, 10 HP up, and 5 Calcium, you would only have 152 Speed EVs, 104 HP EVs, and 2 Special Attack EVs to get from wild Pokemon.

Also, using Power Items is better than using the Macho Brace. A power item will give you an extra 4 EVs in a certain stat after you beat a Pokemon. So if you give your Pokemon a Power Weight and beat a Stunfisk, you would get 2 + 4 = 6 HP EVs.

Getting the Pokerus will also double the amount of EVs you gain from battle.
 

AquaRegisteel

Face Oblivion
Right, I am considering breeding for a Jolly Axew next.

I think that I should go for: 31/31/20+/x/20+/31

When I EV it, should I run the normal 252/252 spread, or put 32 or so EVs into HP?
 
Question for EV Training, I'm currently training my Munchlax (who miraculously evolved into a Snorlax at level 7; no Soothe Bell), and I'm doing his HP EV's right now. Main problem being the Pokemon I wanted him to train against is much higher then his. Is it possible for Snorlax to get the EV's if I just switch him out for another Pokemon?
 

blackmeadow

Coolio Julio
Question for EV Training, I'm currently training my Munchlax (who miraculously evolved into a Snorlax at level 7; no Soothe Bell), and I'm doing his HP EV's right now. Main problem being the Pokemon I wanted him to train against is much higher then his. Is it possible for Snorlax to get the EV's if I just switch him out for another Pokemon?

Yup, that's what I usually do for lower leveled Pokemon. Just don't use a Pokemon that you don't want getting those HP EVs, because they end up getting them too.
 
Yup, that's what I usually do for lower leveled Pokemon. Just don't use a Pokemon that you don't want getting those HP EVs, because they end up getting them too.

So, say I I switch out my Snorlax (Who has a Power Band) for a Salamence, and I'm facing a Stunfisk, who gives 1 HP EV. Will Snorlax and Salamence each get 1 HP EV? By which I mean, the EV's aren't like divided evenly amongst the Pokemon fought
 
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Shego

The Pokémon Explorer
Pokemon that are "outstanding" or "relatively superior" are pretty good - it refers to the sum of all their IVs. Outstanding or superior Pokemon are much better IV-wise than those that are "above average" or "decent."

The Macho Brace doubles the amount of EVs you get from beating a Pokemon. Basculin normally gives 2 Speed EVs, so when you beat one while using the Macho Brace, you get 4 Speed EVs. So you would need to beat 252/4 = 63 of them to max out Speed. Litwick/Elgyem both give 1 Special Attack EV, so with the Macho Brace they give 2, which means you have to beat 52/2 = 26 of them. Audino and Stunfisk give 2 HP EVs (Ducklett only give one, so I wouldn't use it), which would be 4 with the Macho Brace meaning that you have to beat 204/4 = 51 of them.

Of course, you can make the whole EV training process faster by giving your Pokemon Vitamins. You can give a Pokemon a max of 10 Vitamins in any stat, for a total of 100 EVs in that stat. So if you gave your Pokemon 10 Carbos, 10 HP up, and 5 Calcium, you would only have 152 Speed EVs, 104 HP EVs, and 2 Special Attack EVs to get from wild Pokemon.

Also, using Power Items is better than using the Macho Brace. A power item will give you an extra 4 EVs in a certain stat after you beat a Pokemon. So if you give your Pokemon a Power Weight and beat a Stunfisk, you would get 2 + 4 = 6 HP EVs.

Getting the Pokerus will also double the amount of EVs you gain from battle.

Ok. But importantly, what is the best nature for Mewtwo? If I get a Mew, I hope that I can get the Jolly nature since Mew seems to be a playful pokemon. Then I'll probably run 252 Spd/4 Def/ 252 Sp.Atk.
 

Aegon

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Ok. But importantly, what is the best nature for Mewtwo? If I get a Mew, I hope that I can get the Jolly nature since Mew seems to be a playful pokemon. Then I'll probably run 252 Spd/4 Def/ 252 Sp.Atk.
The best nature for Mewtwo is Timid, while Mew has many options. Take a look here for some useful ideas.
 
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