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Official Fire Red and Leaf Green Help Thread - Small questions go here!

Discussion in 'Pokémon Generation III Discussion' started by ellie, Jul 16, 2008.

  1. ellie

    ellie Δ Staff Member Admin

    Approved by Angeling

    This is a thread for all small questions about Fire Red and Leaf Green Versions. Before you ask a question, be sure to check all of these:
    3rd Generation Pokedex
    Fire Red and Leaf Green's Page
    3rd Generation Attackdex
    Abilitydex
    3rd Gen Berrydex
    Game Mechanics
    Wireless Adaptor/Mystery Gift FAQ
    FrLg Glitch Report Thread
    Breeding Help/Egg Chain Discussion
    EV's/IV's Help
    Pokerus FAQ
    Shiny FAQ
    Mechanics of the Roaming Pokemon (Entei, Raikou, Suicune)

    Plus some other websites that would be useful:
    Smogon's List of 3rd Generation Tiers
    Smogon's Competitive Pokemon Movesets
    Gamefaqs's Fire Red Version Walkthroughs/FAQs
    Gamefaqs's Leaf Green Version Walkthroughs/FAQs
    Psypoke's Psydex (has all the XD tutor moves)

    Frequently Asked Questions
    Q: Where is the Move Deleter?
    A: In Fuschia City in a house next to the Pokemon Center.

    Q: Help! I went to face the Elite Four a second time but Lorelei isn't there! Is my game glitched?
    A: No, you need to finish some Sevii Island quests first.

    Q: Can I evolve Eevee into Espeon and Umbreon in this game?
    A: No. In Fire Red and Leaf Green (as well as Colosseum), you can only evolve your Eevee into Vaporeon, Jolteon, or Flareon. You can obtain an Espeon or Umbreon by trading Eevee to Ruby, Sapphire, or Emerald, raising its friendship, and raising a level (between 12 PM and 12 AM for Espeon, between 12 AM and 12 PM for Umbreon). You could also trade it to XD and use the Sun Shard (Espeon) or Moon Shard (Umbreon), provided you have not used up your one-per-game Eevee-evolution item.

    Q: Can this game trade with all the other versions?
    A: Fire Red and Leaf Green can trade between each other as soon as you have the ability to trade, but any other game can only be traded with after you get the Ruby and Sapphire to Celio, plus finishing any requirements in the other game you are trading with.

    Q: Which game is better/how are they different?
    A: The only difference between these two games is the obtainable Pokemon.
    In Fire Red, you can get Ekans, Arbok, Oddish, Gloom, Vileplume, Bellossom, Psyduck, Golduck, Growlithe, Arcanine, Shellder, Cloyster, Electabuzz, Elekid, Scyther, Scizor, Wooper, Quagsire, Murkrow, Qwilfish, Delibird, Skarmory, and Attack Deoxys (event-only). You can also do an ingame trade of Nidoran M for a Nidoran F, and Nidorino for Nidorina. There are also some Pokemon that are less common or more common than in Leaf Green, but they can be gotten with patience.
    In Leaf Green, you can get Sandshrew, Sandslash, Vulpix, Ninetales, Bellsprout, Weepinbell, Victreebel, Slowpoke, Slowbro, Slowking, Staryu, Starmie, Magmar, Magby, Pinsir, Azurill, Marill, Azumarill, Misdreavus, Sneasel, Remoraid, Octillery, Mantine, and Defense Deoxys (event-only). You can also do an ingame trade of Nidoran F for Nidoran M and Nidorina for Nidorino. There are also some Pokemon that are less common or more common than in Fire Red, but they can be gotten with patience.
    So choose which game based on those factors.

    Q: How do I clone in the 3rd generation?
    A: Check the Cloning in Emerald thread.

    Q: What's with the old lady on Seven Island that has the boxes in her house? Can I get behind them or something?
    A: Short answer: No, most likely not. Long answer: It was used in the Japanese versions of Fire Red and Leaf Green to fight trainers that you downloaded using Battle-e Cards. The e-Reader was discontinued in the rest of the world due to lack of popularity, so the feature of connecting was removed, but the data to go to the spot still exists. So if you happen to have a Japanese FrLg, a Japanese e-Reader, and some Japanese Battle-e Cards for FrLg, you can go there. But it's really pretty pointless anyway (if you have the Battle-e Cards for Ruby and Sapphire, it's pretty much the same deal).

    Do you have a good website to help or think that a particular question belongs in the FAQ? Send me a PM or profile message and I'll take a look.

    If your question's not here (and belongs in this thread), ask away!



    (The following has been added in by the edit-ninja bobandbill)



    Thought it might be an idea to take every question asked so far not covered above in the FAQ/links, list it here, and provide the answer as well, OR a link to the post that answers it (so this remains under the character limit easily). So now you can look in the first post here to see every question asked so far - chances are one you want to ask has already been asked and answered.

    CHECK THE LINKS ABOVE FIRST IF THE QUESTION IS NOT BELOW!

    Also, for an easy-to-find way for a certain question, use the Ctrl+F function.

    - If you give a pokemon a Full restore (or any other 'artificial' healing item), will it use it?

    ANSWER: No, it will not.


    - Which Johto Pokemon become available after acquiring the National Dex on Firered? And where are they located?

    ANSWER: Link here.


    - When can I catch Entei/Suicune/Raikou?

    ANSWER: After you defeat the Elite Four and get the National Dex.


    - Can I encounter any of the Dogs while surfing?

    ANSWER: Apparently, you can. They can also be found on the Kanto mainlnad (but not the Sevii Islands).


    - Where can I get the Item Finder?

    ANSWER: Professor Oak's aide in the building at the end of Route 11 will give it to you if you have 30+ Pokemon in your Pokedex.


    - How do I get the National Dex?

    ANSWER: Talk to Professor Oak when you have captured 60 Pokemon or more for your pokedex, and defeat the Elite Four.


    - If I evolve a Pokemon that learns two moves at a certain level, one in it's unevolved form and one in the evolved form - will it learn both?

    ANSWER: Yes, it will.


    - If I have a post-national dex pokemon that evolves into one of the Kanto Dex pokemon, will it evolve?

    ANSWER: Yes, it will. Similar to how a Golbat can evolve into a Crobat without the National Dex.


    - How do you unlock Celio's quest?

    ANSWER: You have to get the National dex, and then talk to him.


    - What's the deal with Altering Cave?

    ANSWER: It is a feature that apprarently only works with Mystery Gift
    events in Japan. (Link to post).


    - Is it possible for me to SR for Nature/IVs for the roaming beasts?

    ANSWER: No, as apparently the Nature and IVs are said to be set at the start of the game. Also, the Nature and most of the IVs are actually intentionally set to be very low (in the 0-3 range).


    - I have FR/LG and on it, an Aurora Ticket from an event. Is there any way I can get it onto a Emerald so I can go to the Birth Island again?

    ANSWER: Unfortunately no - the only exchangable event ticket is the Eon Ticket.


    - Where Can I get the Exp. Share?

    ANSWER: It's on the second floor of the guard house east of Fuschia. You have to have at least 50 Pokemon, and then the Aide will give it to you.


    - Can the Snorlax be shiny?

    ANSWER: Yes, it can; just like any other Pokemon.


    - Where can I get VS. Seeker?

    ANSWER: From a lady with blue hair in the Pokemon Center in Vermilion.


    - Do natures in FR/LG have their added effects like they do in R/S/E and D/P? (E.g. would a Slugma with Flame Body next to an egg in my team make it hatch quicker?)

    ANSWER: No, it doesn't. Natures do not have additional effects outside of battles in FR/LG.


    - What's the chance for a Pokemon to be shiny? Is there any way for the chance to be different for any Pokemon/occassion.

    ANSWER: The chance a Pokemon is shiny is 1 in 8192. Short of hacking, this is a constant - it will never be higher or lower for 3rd or 4th gen games.


    - I have gotten one of the plates, but upon going to the dotted hole there was a scientist guy there saying 'Don't look so envious'. I only have one code to get into the warehouse. What do I do?

    ANSWER: Go to the Ice Cave in the fourth Island. Get HM Waterfall, and use it to get through the waterfall into another section of Ice Cave. You'll have to beat the Rocket to get the second password. Then you can open the Warehouse.


    - When is the earilest I can switch off the game after beating the Elite Four so this achievement has been automatically saved by the game?

    ANSWER: At the start of the credits, it is safe to turn off.


    - What are the movesets for Deoxys when you catch them?

    ANSWER: Link to post (They differ from FR to LG).


    - How do I get Grimer in Celedon City?

    ANSWER: There is a small pond by a house in Celedon City (left of the Game Corner). Surf there, and you can encounter Grimer. (Rods do not work).


    - How do I make catching Pokemon easier in the Safari Zone?

    ANSWER: Simply, it's down to luck - you just have to hope that throwing rocks won't mae it run off, and the Safari Balls will catch it.


    - Will Sweet Scent work on the roaming dogs?

    ANSWER: Yes, it will.


    - What is 'STAB'?

    ANSWER: STAB stands for 'Same Type Attack Bonus'. Everytime a Pokemon uses an attack of its natural typing (for Articuno, for example, it'd be Ice or Flying), the damage is multiplied by 1.5.


    - Can the Johto starters like Totodile, Cyndaquiil and Chikorita learn the ultimate move of each starter of kanto (Hydro Cannon, Frenzy Plant and Blast Burn)?

    ANSWER: Only the Kanto starters can be taught those moves in FR/LG; Hoenn starters can't and Johto starters can only if they come from XD, or are taught it in a different game to FR/LG.


    - Where is the Sludge Bomb TM?

    ANSWER: In the Rocket Warehouse on Island 5.


    - Where is the best place to make money in FR/LG?

    ANSWER: Island 5 - Rebattle the Ladies by the Resort, and make us of the Amulet Coin. (Reportedly you get $20 000 per match from some).


    - Where can I get more TinyMushrooms?

    ANSWER: Paras are very often found on the "Landing" Levels of Mt Moon and hold TinyMushrooms. The small paths where there is black about it is the best place to search for them - they have a 100% chance of appearing there.


    - Can you trade eggs?

    ANSWER: Yes, but only after you have gotten the National Dex. If trading with Emerald, you also need the National Dex on Emerald as well.


    - Where can I get the evolution stones?

    ANSWER: Celedon Department Store sells them for $2100 each.


    - Where can one get the Thunderbolt TM?

    ANSWER: In FR/LG, one can only get it from the Game Corner.


    - Why won't the man with the Togepi Egg give it to me?

    ANSWER: You have to have your lead Pokemon with max. happiness. Also ensure you have a spare slot in your party.


    - What moves are physical or Special in FR/LG?

    ANSWER: Link to post.


    - I saw a shiny Pokemon in the Trainer Tower. Is this normal?

    ANSWER: Yes, it is. There are Pokemon that are shiny Pokemon in every FR/LG game in the Trainer Tower, such as an Espeon.


    - How do I get/revive the fossils?

    ANSWER: You get one in Mt. Moon (Helix or Dome), and the Old Amber from the Museum. (In the room you can only access if you use Cut in Pewter City). To revive, take them to the lab on Cinnabar Island.


    - Is Lapras obtainable elsewhere than Ice Cave?

    ANSWER: Yes - in Silph Co's building, a man will give you one.


    - Where is Selphy from 'Resort Gorgeous'?

    ANSWER: She is in Lost Cave. Link to more.


    - Where can I find more Moonstones?

    ANSWER: Link - general gist is there is a limited number, excluding them via hold items on wild Celefairy in Mt Moon.


    - Where can I get the Amulet Coin?

    ANSWER: In the building connecting Route 16 to Cycling Road - a Professor's Aide gives it to you.


    - Can I clone Pokemon in FR/LG?

    ANSWER: No, you cannot.


    - For Lady Selphy, are her gifts unlimited, or is it one of each?

    ANSWER: Her gifts are unlimited.


    - Where is a good place to train Pokemon other than the Elite Four?

    ANSWER: Rematches via the Vs. Seeker on the Sevii Islands or the Swimmers around Cinnabar Island, or Victory Road, tends to be the best places. If you only have lower levelled Pokemon, try in places where trainers have similarly-leveled Pokemon to you.


    - What items do you get from the Trainer Tower?

    ANSWER: Here is a list.


    - Where is the TM Shadow Ball?

    ANSWER: In the Celedon Game corner, for 4500 coins ($90 000 to buy said coins).


    - Can you trade between PAL and US verions of FR/LG/Colosseum/Box?

    ANSWER: Yes, you can.


    - What's the most pokemon you can catch in FR without trading?

    ANSWER: 181, 184 with events. Link to a list.


    - Can you transfer Pokemon to D/P/Pt?

    ANSWER: Yes, you can. You need however to have gotten the National Dex, beaten the Elite Four and activated Pal Park on D/P/Pt first though.
     
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  2. Mega Typhlosion

    Mega Typhlosion Well-Known Member

    Well I have a question. I traded a Raikou from my FireRed to my LeafGreen. Now I want to get my LeafGreen Raikou, but the Pokédex says "Area Unknown".
    Do I have to see it once in LEAFGREEN? I though that having the Pokédex entry would be enough...
    Does this mean IT WON'T APPEAR?

    (Yes, I chose Squirtle and I have the National Dex)
     
  3. JLMO20

    JLMO20 Banned

    It probably roared ur azz away..in that case u won't be seen the freaking beast from that file anymore..
     
  4. Elite Four Muadita

    Elite Four Muadita Well-Known Member

    i have a question... In island seven i believe, there ia a house with an old lady, and in the house, there is a room blocked with boxes that said "you can feel a small breeze" or something like that whats in there?
     
  5. ellie

    ellie Δ Staff Member Admin

    That's for using Battle-E-cards for battles, which are only available in the Japanese version due to the E-reader being discontinued in the rest of the world. So unless you have a Japanese game, you can't do anything.
     
  6. Akashdip

    Akashdip Cascade trainer

    I have a very stupid but useful question:
    If you give a pokemon a Full restore will he use it ?
     
  7. J.M.

    J.M. Member

    Which Johto Pokemon become available after acquiring the National Dex on Firered? And where are they located?
     
  8. Blazios

    Blazios Well-Known Member

    It will not.
     
  9. ellie

    ellie Δ Staff Member Admin

    The available Pokemon are in the first post and locations are on the main site, so please read more carefully.
    Wooper, Murkrow, Qwilfish, Delibird, and Skarmory are available (not counting evolutions of other Pokemon).
    Wooper: Four Island, Icefall Cave, and Ruin Valley
    Murkrow: Lost Cave
    Qwilfish: Fish in Five Isle Meadow, Green Path, Memorial Pillar, Outcast Island, Resort Gorgeous, Tanoby Ruins, Trainer Tower, Water Labyrinth, and Water Path.
    Delibird: Icefall Cave
    Skarmory: Ruin Valley
     
  10. Blurrz

    Blurrz Oil Country 4 Life

    When can I catch Entei/Suicune/Raikou? I can't seem to remember.. is it after you beat the Elite 4.. or is it after you beat the Elite 4 the second time?
     
  11. J.M.

    J.M. Member

    Oh okay, thanks. Sorry for mis-reading.

    Thanks again
     
  12. ellie

    ellie Δ Staff Member Admin

    After you have the National Dex. Remember that they only appear on the Kanto mainland, not the Islands.
     
  13. Blurrz

    Blurrz Oil Country 4 Life

    Alrighty, thanks for that Emerald. Another question to pass the time.. I can encounter the Dogs while surfing, correct?
     
  14. Chaos Rush

    Chaos Rush Well-Known Member

    One thing to note: Pokemon that are #152-386 can only be obtained once you receive the National Dex. You CANNOT trade a National Dex Pokemon from an FR/LG version that has the National Dex to a FR/LG version that doesn't have the National Dex. I TESTED IT!!!
     
  15. ellie

    ellie Δ Staff Member Admin

    Blurrz, I don't think you can. I know you could find the Latis by Surfing, but somehow finding an Entei on the water doesn't seem feasible to me :p

    Rush, I fixed it.
     
  16. Akashdip

    Akashdip Cascade trainer

    Yes you can find entei on the water i found him twice so just do it.:surfpika:
     
  17. sora247

    sora247 ~Ding Dong~

    where can i get the item finder in leaf green?
     
  18. ellie

    ellie Δ Staff Member Admin

    Professor Oak's aide in the building at the end of Route 11 will give it to you if you have 30+ Pokemon in your Pokedex. Please use the sources that I provided, as I found that answer within less than a minute using Gamefaqs.
     
  19. Lostelle

    Lostelle vicious opportunist

    N00by question: How do I get the national dex?
     
  20. Zesqio

    Zesqio Well-Known Member

    Talk to Professor Oak when you have at least 60 pokemon captured.
     

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