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Official One Piece Manga Discussion Thread: Oda says Trans Rights

mehmeh1

Top Manager of the Dragon of Dojima
How on earth dig Buggy, of all people, manage to become a Yonko? Did a freaking earthquake hit when the Marine’s were trying to capture him and wipe everyone else out with only Buggy left standing? I can’t, I’m laughing so hard at Buggy being a Yonko
He always finds a way
 

Mr. Reloaded

All encompassing
How on earth dig Buggy, of all people, manage to become a Yonko? Did a freaking earthquake hit when the Marine’s were trying to capture him and wipe everyone else out with only Buggy left standing? I can’t, I’m laughing so hard at Buggy being a Yonko

The meme aside, from the public's point of view it actually makes a lot of sense. He has the influence, he's an ex-warlord, former Roger Pirate, ally of Shanks, probably gained territory since the Warlord's got abolished, has all those ex-prisoners from Impel Down. He has a delivery service so he's got connections. Plus we don't know what happened outside to really pushed him into this position yet.
Without the context we have as readers, why wouldn't anyone see him as a big deal?

It's like Luffy becoming a Emperor but not Kid and Law, same bounties and credit for the fall of Kaido and Big Mom, but because Luffy has a fleet and territory he got in and they didn't.
 
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deliaketchum

Well-Known Member
How on earth dig Buggy, of all people, manage to become a Yonko? Did a freaking earthquake hit when the Marine’s were trying to capture him and wipe everyone else out with only Buggy left standing? I can’t, I’m laughing so hard at Buggy being a Yonko
He accidently took dump in Imu sama's garden. That alone made him threat to WG.
 

PsychoLogical

Black and White, Yin and Yang, Light and Dark.
nearly another month to go zzzzz. Oh and we got a clue on where the last Road Poneglyth is, it's on an island the SHs never visited before.
 

Morax

Mad dog of shimano
I thought with big mom gone, they might not even go to elbaf. but that could also be Ussop´s arc since he hasn’t done much in Wano.
Elbaf has been foreshadowed since little garden lol. It’s technically/narratively more important than wano.
 

deliaketchum

Well-Known Member
Elbaf has been foreshadowed since little garden lol. It’s technically/narratively more important than wano.
i know they made that promise to dorry and brogy. But wano has ancient weapon, birth of ponyglyphs, kozuki clan linked directly to joyboy and void century, opening of borders, oden and his forshadowing of pirate king 20 years in future, toki coming from void century and lot of other important details. I think narratively wano is much more important.
 

Morax

Mad dog of shimano
i know they made that promise to dorry and brogy. But wano has ancient weapon, birth of ponyglyphs, kozuki clan linked directly to joyboy and void century, opening of borders, oden and his forshadowing of pirate king 20 years in future, toki coming from void century and lot of other important details. I think narratively wano is much more important.
The only ‘important’ thing about wano is the weapon. Everything else is as relevant as alabasta lol. Meanwhile Elbaf is supposed to be the strongest nation in the world, there’s a reason Oda kept it for the endgame.
 

deliaketchum

Well-Known Member
The only ‘important’ thing about wano is the weapon. Everything else is as relevant as alabasta lol. Meanwhile Elbaf is supposed to be the strongest nation in the world, there’s a reason Oda kept it for the endgame.
I dont know if elbaf is endgame. I think after raftel, they will go back to marinford for big war. Alabasta only had location of weapon written in it. Rest of the lore related to wano is completely new. The fact that WG wants wano and sengoku himself saying every big time pirate like WB, Roger, Rocks Alliance had something to do with wano and samurai Tells lot.
Also i think since wano is based off japan, oda has given this arc more time and relevance than anything else till now. Noway elbaf is going to be that long.
 

Mizz Nikki

Operations Director
I was joking in my last post so why you all getting so uptight?

Nami neede a lot of help before she defeated Ulti.

Are you reading the same manga I am? Nami didn’t defeat Ulti, Big Mom came in and took out both Page One and Ulti.
 

Yce288

Grass type FTW
I was joking in my last post so why you all getting so uptight?



Are you reading the same manga I am? Nami didn’t defeat Ulti, Big Mom came in and took out both Page One and Ulti.
I still think the credit goes to Nami, she gave Ulti the last blow with the help of Zeus.
 

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
Is Hawkins dead?

Izo and Ashura died, hopefully Oda grew balls and this is just the start. Cause a lot of people better start dropping from here on.

Lol, never thought I'd see anybody write something like that about One Piece.. xD

One Piece is about the idyllic idea of freedom and adventure. Not who is stronger then who and who kills who. That's simply not how this manga works.

The fact that Oda actually killed off a few characters since MarineFord tells us a lot about how much the story is nearing the endgame, so yeah.. I'd assume some more will be killed off, but expecting 'a lot' to die simply isn't in the line of the manga.

So I was right that Luffy would have a 3 billion beri bounty, although I never would've guessed that Law and Kid would receive the same bounty at the exact same time. While I realize that they did help take down Big Mom and even fought Kaido and survived, I don't think they deserve that amount since Luffy was the one who did the heavy lifting against Kaido and actually defeated him. Not to mention that since he's Dragon's son, has a legendary Devil Fruit, and is generally one of the biggest threats to the World Government, his bounty is at least justified whereas Law and Kid haven't done enough to justify their bounty increase from my perspective.

You missed the point that the Gorosei wanted to downplay Luffy. That's why his bounty is similar to Kid and Law. They also wanted a photo that didn't show Luffy in the Nika-form and didn't want his D. initial on the poster to downplay his . But Morgans screwed them over.

And lastly, Buggy becoming a Yonko is disappointing to me. While I understand the logic behind the decision somewhat [he has a large fleet and capable fighters that escaped from Impel Down], I find it vexing that Buggy keeps stumbling into situations where he gains incredible power while doing the very least himself.

The thing is that now Luffy has become a Yonkou himself, the entire value of the class doesn't really matter that much?

I mean as far as we can tell, the only one that matters is Blackbeard and the other two are potential allies..

The thing about Shanks and Buggy is that both entered Roger's crew at (roughly?) the same time. I think there's actually more to their shared backstory then meets the eye.

Yeah, on personal merit, there should be absolutely no reason to put Buggy on the same level as Shanks, Teach and Luffy - but I'm sure there's a reason why Buggy keeps failing upwards. And I wouldn't actually be surprised if Shanks' audience with Im was actually about Buggy.. In fact, that entire scene was shady as hell.

The only ‘important’ thing about wano is the weapon. Everything else is as relevant as alabasta lol. Meanwhile Elbaf is supposed to be the strongest nation in the world, there’s a reason Oda kept it for the endgame.

With everything that transpired in this arc, with the lore related to Rocks, Oden and Roger, everything related to the Poneglyphs, the addition of Yamato to the crew, Zoro's backstory that's still being lampshaded, Wano essentially becoming part of Luffy's territory, a major powershift in the global landscape by taking out both BM and Kaidou - and Luffy awakening the true form of his Devil Fruit, which puts the biggest target on his back by the WG for the dire implications - and you compare it to..

Arabasta? Sure. Robin joined the crew, Robin found out the location of Pluto there and Luffy beat his first Shichibukai and removing Baroque Works essentially put Arabasta in his pocket. Not much really changed after Arabasta. After Wano, the whole world will be in chaos..


Maybe the new MarineHQ in the NewWorld?

I still think the credit goes to Nami, she gave Ulti the last blow with the help of Zeus.

This is just not right. I'm not one to start with numbers but it's clear that between Luffy fighting Ulti and BigMom absolutely destroying her and Page1 that Nami only gave her the final push.

It's just like saying that Krookodile deserves the credit for taking out Stephan's OP Sawk when Leavanny did most of the work and Krookodile just wrapped it up with an Aerial Ace..
 

UltimateNinja

~Anya-chan~
Well it seems like a prediction I made about ten years ago actually could happen. I'm sure Buggy won't be involved in any big fight and Luffy fighting Blackbeard is given so Blackbeard will probably kill Shanks soon I guess.

Also the last saga/arc approaching is something I've been waiting for since the timeskip. Now we can get to see how Oda will close every character and subplot existing. If he's successful with that seemingly impossible task, then he's a mastermind.
 

PsychoLogical

Black and White, Yin and Yang, Light and Dark.
Part 2 of Road to Laugh Tale has been fan translated. Some new info is sorta out: Black Maria was originally supposed have an Ancient Zoan fruit for the Stegosaurus and Ulti was supposedly originally a genderless creature of some sort named Jirai and Sasaki was originaly named Faro(?)
 
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