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Tuoko

Well-Known Member
And that's the thing: They didn't use it for any major Pokémon. Not Sylveon, not the Legendaries, not the starters, not even to reveal Mega Evolution and/or forms for it (which would include Lucario, Blaziken or the like). Hell, they didn't even have the Kanto starters revealed for it, nor did we get their Mega Evolutions, and that would've been a major announcement to draw hype from the older crowd watching the show.

My point is E3 doesn't seem to be the venue where GF reveals major Pokémon like that, they keep them separate of the event and reveal them on their own time. So I feel that the starters will follow the same mold, they'll be revealed either with the legendaries or in their own trailer.

You've pretty much hit the nail on the head. This is why I can't see them waiting to reveal the starters at E3.


Simple answer. If the sychronized pokemon faints, the trainer faints, making it and instant loss of the battle.

I can see it working out this way.
 
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PrinceOfFacade

Ghost-Type Master
Simple answer. If the sychronized pokemon faints, the trainer faints, making it and instant loss of the battle.

The only way this would really work is if humans become part of the battle, and the only way GAMEFREAK would allow that is if humans only fight each other, since it has been well established in the games that humans attacking pokemon is wrong.
 
The only way this would really work is if humans become part of the battle, and the only way GAMEFREAK would allow that is if humans only fight each other, since it has been well established in the games that humans attacking pokemon is wrong.

Uh, what? They meant that the trainer faints, meaning that they can no longer direct their Pokemon, and that they instantly lose the battle. They never said the trainer was actually fighting.
 

clbgolden12

Alolan (and soon to be Galarian) trainer
The only way this would really work is if humans become part of the battle, and the only way GAMEFREAK would allow that is if humans only fight each other, since it has been well established in the games that humans attacking pokemon is wrong.
In the anime, one time when Ash and Greninja "synchroed" Ash fainted because he was in total sync with Greninja. He didn't actually go in and fight himself, but because he and Greninja were linked he literally whited out.

As I've said before, if Ash-Greninja doesn't appear in some way in the new games, then it really has no reason to exist. Heck, it's even appeared in Shuffle and Picross. I don't see why it wouldn't come here.
 
So like it's something rare in Kalos, but very common in another region like ME?

Well, that's certainly a possibility.

But another way of looking at it is that a rare occurrence in the games may not be so rare in the anime, and vice versa, mainly because they're completely different universes canonically.
 

Nockturne

Well-Known Member
Simple answer. If the sychronized pokemon faints, the trainer faints, making it and instant loss of the battle.

Well they'd need to give some pretty big buffs to the Pokemon to make it worth running the risk of insta losing.

Plus whats to stop people just saving their syncro pokemon till last, then they totally negate the risk.
 

clbgolden12

Alolan (and soon to be Galarian) trainer
Well they'd need to give some pretty big buffs to the Pokemon to make it worth running the risk of insta losing.

Plus whats to stop people just saving their syncro pokemon till last, then they totally negate the risk.
Well, in the anime, the reason Ash whited out was because he was pushing the form too hard, not because Greninja fainted. Greninja was still standing when Ash fainted. So maybe if you use the form too long then you faint, not if your Pokemon faints.
 

knightwolf09

Well-Known Member
Well, in the anime, the reason Ash whited out was because he was pushing the form too hard, not because Greninja fainted. Greninja was still standing when Ash fainted. So maybe if you use the form too long then you faint, not if your Pokemon faints.

So limit the form by turns then?
 

Gabriel Faria

Shall we dance?
Yes, Ash-Greninja appeared in Shuffle and Picross, but it was named like that. It would be strange if now we could use it ourselves in SM. So either they are really secretive about this feature and had to come up with a name in order to include it into the spin-offs without revealing much, or this form is really exclusive to Ash. Maybe he appears in SM? I think it would be cool to see major characters from past games show up and use that feature.
 
Yes, Ash-Greninja appeared in Shuffle and Picross, but it was named like that. It would be strange if now we could use it ourselves in SM. So either they are really secretive about this feature and had to come up with a name in order to include it into the spin-offs without revealing much, or this form is really exclusive to Ash. Maybe he appears in SM? I think it would be cool to see major characters from past games show up and use that feature.

Ash isn't a game character though?

Also, its possible that Ash-Greninja is part of the mechanic, but was made up so they could promote it earlier. I could, however, see Ash-Greninja (under a different name) be distributed akin to Torchic and Beldum.
 

Nockturne

Well-Known Member
Ash isn't a game character though?

Also, its possible that Ash-Greninja is part of the mechanic, but was made up so they could promote it earlier. I could, however, see Ash-Greninja (under a different name) be distributed akin to Torchic and Beldum.

Hmm that's an interesting, I could see it actually being feasible if it was limited to one Pokemon and was Gen 7 exclusive. Kind of like how the Notch Eared Pichu doesn't exist outside of HG/SS.
 
Hmm that's an interesting, I could see it actually being feasible if it was limited to one Pokemon and was Gen 7 exclusive. Kind of like how the Notch Eared Pichu doesn't exist outside of HG/SS.

I don't think the mechanic would be exclusive to the one gen, but the Pokemon it can be used on changes every game, with prior ones being event only.

Though I think it'll most likely be starter-exclusive.
 

knightwolf09

Well-Known Member
I don't think the mechanic would be exclusive to the one gen, but the Pokemon it can be used on changes every game, with prior ones being event only.

Though I think it'll most likely be starter-exclusive.

I wouldn't mind if it just starters. Great way to avoid the "don't give new starters megas" rule
 

Royal_Qeca

Pokémon Blue
It's pretty obviously implied it'll be in CoroCoro, why would they advertise an external source when they could just as easily be the bringer of news?

Because 1) such "external source" is the same source that gives them relevant content that helps them sell whenever they print it and 2) it hypes the brand that CoroCoro will be heavily covering for the next 8 months.

They should have content in their pages anyway being the monthly magazine the first to deliver the news or the Pokémon Company itself.
 

Auraninja

Eh, ragazzo!
Ash isn't a game character though?

Also, its possible that Ash-Greninja is part of the mechanic, but was made up so they could promote it earlier. I could, however, see Ash-Greninja (under a different name) be distributed akin to Torchic and Beldum.
The anime is a separate canon from the games, I agree, but the games have done small nods to the anime, like the Zygarde "from the Pokemon cartoon".

But he can become one...
If they didn't already do that in Pokemon Yellow, why the heck would they do it now?
 

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
But he can become one...

[IMG200]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b6/Pok%C3%A9mon_Puzzle_League_Coverart.png[/IMG200]

Hmm...

If they didn't already do that in Pokemon Yellow, why the heck would they do it now?

Kinda sorta not really. They mostly superimposed Ash on Red and supposedly run with that for GSC.
 
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Auraninja

Eh, ragazzo!
[IMG200]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b6/Pok%C3%A9mon_Puzzle_League_Coverart.png[/IMG200]

Hmm...
You might have posted that to be cheeky, but I do want to note that he had no mains series appearance, and the Pokemon Yellow version would have been a candidate, but they never got him.
 

Nockturne

Well-Known Member
Because 1) such "external source" is the same source that gives them relevant content that helps them sell whenever they print it and 2) it hypes the brand that CoroCoro will be heavily covering for the next 8 months.

They should have content in their pages anyway being the monthly magazine the first to deliver the news or the Pokémon Company itself.

Thats not how things work, they wouldn't have mentioned/promoted the big scoop unless it was going to happen in the magazine itself. Especially not as some kind of favor to the external source who give them relevant content.
 
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