Just to deviate from the ongoing discussion...
We've gotten Maison twice now. I doubt they'll give us the same thing third time in a row in Z.
They have to give us something different this time.
Well, lets hope so. Out of "extra-curricular"-activities, the Maison (outside of Battle Testing) just comes off as a badly done Battle Tower, aside from the option to pause the challenge midway, which is just another way of saying: "Perhaps the older facilities were too challenging, we're going to make it easier".
Well even though I didn't think the PWT was innovative, I'd like to see something like it in "Z" and not another Maison.
It at least had far more novelty to it than the Maison. I know back in Best Wishes, people were excited to see those two "brains" from the Battle Subway. I quite frankly thought that was stupid as they didn't seem to have much personality back than, but I'll be damned if they stick the Battle Maison girls in the animé, because just seem like incredibly bland sprites...
Talking about innovative, I just want to curve a bit to the Emerald and Sinnoh Battle Frontier, because while the Battle Palace was very innovative, I doubt people actually liked it much or even understood the basic idea of how it worked. You can tell that they liked the idea of the Battle Dome, because the PWT is essentially the Battle Dome with previous gym leaders.
Emerald:
- Battle Tower: The Maison is just an upgraded version.
- Battle Palace: Very innovative, but very hard to even get a grip on. Probably the sole facility that I actually consider to be a failure.
- Battle Pike: Very innovative, battling, but also allowing the challenge to be an adventure between battles.
- Battle Pyramid: Very innovative, I loved the maze-style, sort of returned with the Black City/Tree Hollow-feature in B2W2?
- Battle Dome: Also one of my favorite things, PWT did this right.
- Battle Factory: Rental, still one of my favorite things to do. PWT added the feature as well.
- Battle Arena: The 3-turns battle was an innovative concept that they haven't touched upon since. I like the idea of being judged on performance.
Platinum:
- Battle Tower: Same as above.
- Battle Factory: Same as above
- Battle Castle: I didn't think it was too innovative. It's basically a Battle Tower without automatic healing, but gives you the responsibility to do so on your own accord.
- Battle Hall: Incredibly challenging, I really want to see something like it again. PWT did include the Type Expert-tournaments, which were awesome, but 1vsAllx10 was really good.
- Battle Arcade: Crazy fun! I imagined it as an upgraded Battle Pike, with the extra occurances.
So if I want anything to return as a new Battle Frontier, I'd pick the following facilities (or combinations) as they spin the generic battle rules and that's what the Battle Frontier should be about:
- Battle Tower: It's pretty much a necessity.
- Battle PWT (Dome/Factory): With all the PWT-features, such as rental/gymleaders/champion/type-experts. No point in splitting the Dome and Factory up anymore.
- Battle Arcade: The facility where the basics of battle (everyone starts off equal - aside from teamchoices) is immediately kicked aside
before the battle.
- Battle Arena: The facility in which you are judged on battling style
after the battle.
- Battle Pyramid/Pike/Black Skyscraper/Tree Hollow: The facility where the challenge is not just in the battling-aspect, but features
exploring.
- Battle Hall: The facillity where your
knowledge regarding your own pokémon is tested. You need to know every flaw if you want to succeed.
- Something new and refreshing
Why is nobody mentioning Black Tower/White Forest from B2/W2? Way more entertaining than PWT in my opinion, with actual EXP and actual prize once you complete it.
I did a few levels (I guess?) of the White Forest thing and than completely forgot about it.. That being said, I forgot where I even put my copy of White2 or if I even finished it..
Corsica is an island in France. It is located in the Mediterranean, maybe accessible from Lumiose city. Or maybe they make Britain and create new cities and locations.
I think Britain has a chance of becoming the region of the 7th Gen. Like France, it has a distinctive shape. France is having the European Soccer Championships in 2016 and for some reason, I think that's one of the possibilities why they chose it. Not just that, but it felt as if France was popular these last few years. Might just be me though. Corsica could definitely be a possibility, but they could just as well just improve on Kiloude City.
I agree that the Battle Maison returning by itself would be boring. I didn't even touch it in ORAS except to get the Wally rematch.
Either a Battle Frontier or the PWT would be nice, I don't mind which.
Exactly, it was a mistake putting the Maison in ORAS and I found it even stranger that they implied that it was the basis for the BF.