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Dattebayo

Banned
Not amazing, but slightly above average. Could use a bigger move pool, but that's the Gen 5 slogan.

Haxorus has already got the moves it needs though.
 

NeohopeSTF

Sol Badguy
Hmm Haxorus is a really good poke all a round if your gonna get it make sure it jolly or meh go with what nature gives you.
 
Well, at any rate, there needs to be a reliable physical fire move, that does like 90-100 damage that's either a tm or move tutor that alot of pokemon have access to
 

rocky505

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Well we got Wild Charge so maybe they'll make a Fire type take down(Which Flareon should get since GF are too stupid to give it Flare Blitz)
 

GalladeX

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But not the Smogon way. :(

They should ashamed of allowing ubers in tournaments.

If only there was a Smogon player who entered and ended up winning the whole thing to prove to the world of their existence.

How about we just condense this argument into:

Smogon Uber banlist =/= VGC Uber banlist. Comprende?
 

Skydra

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Well we got Wild Charge so maybe they'll make a Fire type take down(Which Flareon should get since GF are too stupid to give it Flare Blitz)

Why does everyone assume that all Flareon needs is a physical Fire move to be good? Even with it, many other Pokemon would outclass it with it's poor stats other than Attack and Special Defense (and a usable Sp. Attack, I suppose, but with Flare Blitz you wouldn't want to invest in that). A large amount of other Flare Blitz users would still be better.
 

R_N

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Why does everyone assume that all Flareon needs is a physical Fire move to be good? Even with it, many other Pokemon would outclass it with it's poor stats other than Attack and Special Defense (and a usable Sp. Attack, I suppose, but with Flare Blitz you wouldn't want to invest in that). A large amount of other Flare Blitz users would still be better.

Because then it would actually get a move to take advantage of its really nice attack stat? Then it would actually maybe sort of be usable
The amount of physical fire moves is so low that the only remaining options are Fire Punch, Blaze Kick and Flare Blitz (did you know Flareon doesn't even get Flame Wheel?). And I'm going to go out on a limb and say it will never have a chance to get Fire Punch ever.
 

Dattebayo

Banned
It needs a good fire move.

Don't tell me, Ferrothorn? It'll get hurt by those Iron Barbs combined with Rocky Helmet, and of course, Life Orb.
 
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