Well Rock gym type is still the most common. maybe they should do another Rock gym but not as the first. So than no one will have a problem.
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Ok, they need to stop making the first gym rock type
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Well Rock gym type is still the most common. maybe they should do another Rock gym but not as the first. So than no one will have a problem.
...Yeah well, if it was only in R/B, the Nidoran's never learned Double Kick till it was in it's level 40's. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Mankey only catchable in Pokemon Yellow? Or was it possible to get early in the game in Pokemon Red as well?
SoulSilverMstr411
Hikikomori
At least, RSE, FRLG and DPPt gave us the option of teaching our fire type a fighting type move. The main reason I hate the first gym being the rock type is 'cos it's boring and predictible. Geodude? C'mon!
Shiny Bashamo
Isn't it cute ^^
Mankey was catchle in Red, but only around Saffron city, so it didn't help a lot for Brock. I forgot which poke I used against him, but if you trained charmander enough to evolve before facing Brock, he was easy to defeat.
Yeah, Geodude was too often in the first gym. they had to do it a Graveler/Golem, at least once.
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Black/White!
Only in Red, i faced a difficulty beating Brock. Had to train mine to a Charmeleon and a Butterfree with Confusion.
In Fire Red, Metal Claw was my way through.
In R/S/E, Combusken took care of the job. Nosepass was easy.
In DPPt, Monferno was the hero.
In all these gyms, the Geodude's were just pushovers. Too common, that rock.
In Fire Red, Metal Claw was my way through.
In R/S/E, Combusken took care of the job. Nosepass was easy.
In DPPt, Monferno was the hero.
In all these gyms, the Geodude's were just pushovers. Too common, that rock.
Penguinist Trainer
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While I do agree with the person who said picking your starters was basically picking your difficulty level in the game, I also believe there should be a little more variety in the pokemon games. Whether that means new type gyms, or switching up the pokemon lineup in certain gyms for pokemon that are less frequently used.
Maybe implement a Rock gym where the leader used pokemon such as Corsola, Cradily, and Magcargo against the starter pokemon. This could help with strategy by teaching new players when to switch out their pokemon.
Maybe implement a Rock gym where the leader used pokemon such as Corsola, Cradily, and Magcargo against the starter pokemon. This could help with strategy by teaching new players when to switch out their pokemon.
heatran_ran
Lost in Ilex Forest
This is why johto was good. There was variety! (flying type)
But I agree. Although the rock-thing is kind of a tradition, maybe they could try adding some dual-types, like nosepass or maybe relicanth. (I'm assuming relicanth is rock/water. If it's ground/water, sorry.)
But I agree. Although the rock-thing is kind of a tradition, maybe they could try adding some dual-types, like nosepass or maybe relicanth. (I'm assuming relicanth is rock/water. If it's ground/water, sorry.)
The Johto gyms were the best, but not only because there wasn't a Rock gym.
I think that they might chose the Rock type gym only for Brock, because he's still in the show. this could be one of the reasons, but I'm not sure.
Nibbles4Ever
1 more day ^^
I hope in the fifth gen they don't have a rock gym, at least first, and I hope there is no geodude, booorrring >.<
yanmegy423
Litwick-KAWAIIDESU!
Nosepass is just a rock type and honestly, it has been AGES since a ground type gym
Penguinist Trainer
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Actually to add on to my previous response, I noticed something else that caught my eye. Has anyone noticed that the Rock Gym really isn't the 1st gym? I was looking up the map layouts on the PokeEarth and it got me thinking.
Viridian City is the 1st gym you come across, but it happens to be conveniently closed. What if the trainer stayed there and waited for it to re-open... or better yet, what if subsequent gyms were closed as well.
And what about Petalburg? Your own father refuses you from challenging him. Another example of trainers being turned away.
I also noticed Jubilife City doesn't have its own gym. Usually the big cities are where you find the gyms, but apparently not in Jubilife. Also if our character knew how to swim, he could have always gone to Canalave before going to Oreburgh.
Viridian City is the 1st gym you come across, but it happens to be conveniently closed. What if the trainer stayed there and waited for it to re-open... or better yet, what if subsequent gyms were closed as well.
And what about Petalburg? Your own father refuses you from challenging him. Another example of trainers being turned away.
I also noticed Jubilife City doesn't have its own gym. Usually the big cities are where you find the gyms, but apparently not in Jubilife. Also if our character knew how to swim, he could have always gone to Canalave before going to Oreburgh.
Pkmn Breeder Jack
Static owns you.
@Penguinist Trainer- I think what they're aiming at is giving you an experience that is driven by circumstance to make the journey interesting. Though I don't remember if the anime treated Viridian as the location of the final gym, in the games it lets you arrive and think you've found your first challenge only to find that the gym is closed, thus forcing you to continue to the only other option; Pewter to the north. Later on in the game, you see this again; you can't get to Saffron until you beat several other gyms. It's the same in RSE, your dad refuses to battle, so your original plans are scrapped and you must continue to the next gym in Rustboro.
I'd also imagine that not all trainers start from the playable character's town; otherwise, it would be much bigger. That would add some explanation to the confusing gym locations.
I'd also imagine that not all trainers start from the playable character's town; otherwise, it would be much bigger. That would add some explanation to the confusing gym locations.
That's because geodude is common and fairly easy to beat...would you rather they had aerodactyls and kabuto and lileep?
Lord_Storm
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I think that nintendo should try a dual type gym, say, dark/ghost, that would make it hard for the trainers, against the sableyes and spiritomb lol
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Chimchar15
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They need to make a Dark-type gym as it was the only type not be done yet. They also need to have Bug, Poison, Ground, and Dragon as they've been only done once.
PokemonQueen
Aazula
I think that they (the people who make pokemon games) need to put the rock type as a second gym leader and grass type gym leader as a first gym leader.
I think they need to do away with the Rock-Type Gym in the 5th Gen and make the next Grass Leader a guy for once.
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