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Old attacks that pokemon should learn

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Pika Egg

Veteran newbie ^_^
Let me clarify the title. I remember back where Crystal came out, there was a lot of talk about attacks that Pokemon would learn in Crystal that they didn't know in G/S. So my question is, what attacks (from all the older games) should pokemon learn that they currently don't?
-Give an explanation of why they should learn the attack...and not just say 'Bulbasaur needs Leaf Blade b/c it would PWN ALL!!!!!!11!!!!....'
-Try to make the attacks logical as well... no Dragon Clawing Dratinis or Earthquaking Pichus ^_^
-Keep in mind the attacks don't have to be useful for battle, they can be novelty moves like my suggestion for Phanpy below.
-Be sure to check the pokedex to make sure they don't already learn the moves ^_^;;
-Try not to speculate too much about the new pokemon since we don't know a lot about them.

I'll start it off with a few of my ideas:

Lunatone should learn Surf.
Reason: The moon controls the tides.

Munchlax/Snorlax should learn Stockpile/Swallow/Spit Up.
Reason: It fits their nature, especially Munchlax's.
Update: Apparently Munchlax does learn Swallow (and probably Stockpile and Spit Up as well)... but I'll still leave this up as an example.

Phanpy/Donphan should learn Water Gun.
Reason: Pure novelty. They could learn it in Crystal, so why not now?

So, what are your ideas?
 
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[Super_Fjord]

Is a college kid.
Hm...interesting topic..

But I don't see why GF would change attacks from the way they were set up in FR/LG and Emerald if they were going to
change it all again for D/P...It's not logical, and it would be a waste of time, really...

If Game Freak was considering revising the attacks older Poke'Mon will learn, then it will only be to put in new attacks,
not old ones. (IMO, of course.)
 
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911~Dry_Bones~

Explosive Material
I find this actually an interesting topic indeed. I agree entirely with Lunatone with Surf, it would make more sense because the moon actually, like you said, controls the ocean tides. Munchlax/Snorlax with Stockpile/Swallow/Spit Up would suit it, though i'd probably never use it since I hate those attacks greatly. Never knew Phanphy could use Water Gun in Crystal, interesting.

Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venusaur and Chikorita/Bayleef/Meganium should have Leaf Blade, for it would make sense, since Treecko can use it, so why not the other Grass starters. It just suits their "leafy" nature.

Zap Cannon with Electrabuzz. Why? Because a powerful Electric non-legendary Pokemon should have some powerful electrical move, and I think it was able to use it back in the G/S/C days, am I right?
 
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Aqua_Maiden

Queen of the Abyss
Perappu should learn Sky Attack.
 
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Pika Egg

Veteran newbie ^_^
[Super_Fjord] said:
Hm...interesting topic..

But I don't see why GF would change attacks from the way they were set up in FR/LG and Emerald if they were going to
change it all again for D/P...It's not logical, and it would be a waste of time, really...

If Game Freak was considering revising the attacks older Poke'Mon will learn, then it will only be to put in new attacks,
not old ones. (IMO, of course.)
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Ah, I was expecting something like this. I don't mean they'd change all the attacks a pokemon learns or anything extreme like that, but rather they would add a few additional moves to certain pokemon in the new games. They've done it before: Thunderbolt on Pikachu in Yellow, several egg moves in Crystal, some level up moves in FR/LG like Ancient Power on Togetic and Metal Claw on Charmander. These attacks could be egg moves, level up moves, move tutor moves, moves learned by some brand new method, etc.

As for Lucario and Perappu... why should they learn those attacks? I'm not saying I agree/disagree, but it'd be nice if you could explain why they should. (Although it'd be nice to focus less on the new ones since we know so little about them)
 
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sam_h12

WHERE IS PIDGEOT?!
i dont think youre on the right lines (two previous posts)

the reason that chikorita etc, bulbasaur etc, and treecko dont learn leaf blade is because they wouldntbe able to do it. grovyle and sceptie can use it because they have sharp leaves on their arms. how would they be able to use leaf blade? by tossing their heads? by running up to the enemy and wriggling about a bit? no.

i think Flareon and Donphan shouldve been able to learn Flame Wheel. because, with donphan, it would build up friction by rolling. and flareon is covered in flameyness. sneasel is one of the worst pokemon because it has such a crappy moveset. its only dark attack was faint attack/beat up and only ice attack was icy wind. they may as well have put blizzard in as well. *fingers crossed for weavile*
 
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kh2_lover

Loving Longnecks
cool topic, anyways wobuffet(a.k.a. uber) should not be uber in d/p and should learn some moves other than mirror coat and counter etc.

Skarmory should learn meteor smash cause he's freaking weak with attacks such as steel wing

Sceptile should learn extremespeed cause hes the fastest and most reliable starter ever

pikachu should learn surf normally(it looks cool)
 
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DarkSpectrum

Shadow Amongst Light
Don't forget that certain pokemon can only learn certain attacks in fire red/leaf green like onix with dragonbreath (won't learn it in ruby/saphire/emerald). I believe some of the instruction booklets for the games mention something about different pokemon learning different moves based on the area they're in so it would make perfect sense for some pokemon to learn different moves in shinou that they didn't in hoenn/kanto.
I would like to see lots of bug (and maybe other types) that learn silver wind in shinou seeing as the name fits in with a snowing feeling. I could see some water pokemon learning ice attacks due to the cold climate as well.
 
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~Sirnight~

Come along, dear
Eevee needs some more powerful normal attack- Double-Edge? Umbreon needs Crunch, after all, he does learn bite. Flareon needs Flamewheel, I agree with that, and Jolteon should get Thunderbolt (unless he already has it) otherwise, Shockwave. the boy needs a decent electric attack.
 
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Pika Egg

Veteran newbie ^_^
I don't think Wobbu learning new moves will change anything...it'll depend more on what moves/abilities other pokemon have...

Apparently I wasn't as clear as I thought I was in the 1st post (well, for some of you at least)... I was thinking more along the lines of attacks pokemon should learn that fit the pokemon's nature/behavior/appearance/location (I like the ice attacks for cold region water pokemon idea)/etc...not moves that look cool/are powerful but have no explicit connection other than STAB or usefulness/compesate for movepools/make a pokemon more awesome/etc.
 
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Silver Dragonair

OMG internetz
Steel_Expert said:
Eevee needs some more powerful normal attack- Double-Edge? Umbreon needs Crunch, after all, he does learn bite. Flareon needs Flamewheel, I agree with that, and Jolteon should get Thunderbolt (unless he already has it) otherwise, Shockwave. the boy needs a decent electric attack.
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Umbreon with crunch, ive been thinking about that or years now....

Jolteon can learn T.Bolt by TM...

I think Swellow and Pidgeots hould learn Drill Peck. Plus they should learn sky attack. Sky Attack needs to be a TM also...
 
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Dark_Force

Well-Known Member
I really think Charizard should learn Crunch. Why? It has big teeth, and its crappy movepool is BEGGING for another special move. This would make the 'zard slightly less usless competetively.

~DF~
 
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~Sirnight~

Come along, dear
Dark_Force said:
I really think Charizard should learn Crunch. Why? It has big teeth, and its crappy movepool is BEGGING for another special move. This would make the 'zard slightly less usless competetively.

~DF~
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Another Special move? It has all it's fire moves, DARK attacks Bite an d Beat up as egg moves, Metal Claw added in FR/LG, and DRagon Rage. OK, not the bestest moves, but their still special. In fact, he could use some more Physical moves!
 
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Silver Dragonair

OMG internetz
Steel_Expert said:
Another Special move? It has all it's fire moves, DARK attacks Bite an d Beat up as egg moves, Metal Claw added in FR/LG, and DRagon Rage. OK, not the bestest moves, but their still special. In fact, he could use some more Physical moves!
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Metal Claw is a physical move
 
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Legendary Master

Guest
Munchlax should obiously learn Snore Attack, and Rest.
 
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The carter

Marsh Trainer
magmar should learn pshycic again & not via breeding andf emhhh hmmmz golduck shoulddefinatly be abe able to learn pshycic again
 
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Dubble Flux

Well-Known Member
Steel_Expert said:
No, I beleive Steel attacks are Special moves.
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Well then, "Steel Expert", I 'believe' you're wrong. They're physical. Scratch that, I know they are. So much for your expertise in the steel type...

I agree with Umbreon and Crunch, though, definetly needs it.

~The Don
 
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