Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire: Expectations & Desires? [Not a speculation thread]

[NightFire7]

You are right BCVM22 because the first pokemon games that were released in japan were pokemon red and pokemon green and the sprites were absolutely horrible which is why the sprites were upgraded in the western release and Pokemon blue got introduced. Seriously take a look at exeggutor's and charizard's sprites in the japanese versions of the game, the sprites were really bad. You know its weird looking at how Groudon and Kyogre looked in the trailer compared to the old gameboy sprites I grew up with as a kid playing pokemon red, I have to give credit to gamefreak. The game graphics for pokemon games have come a long way and I think 3d looks awesome.

 

[BCVM22]

Shinies don't seem special anymore because EVERYONE HAS THEM.

Everyone's always had them. They were never all that special. Less easy to find, maybe, but rarity doesn't equate automatically to value.

 

[Dragalge]

I think that Game Freak should lower the chances of finding shinies for Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby. They are just too easy to find in X and Y. Not only did they increase the shiny encounter rate; they raised the rate for the Masuda method, Poke Radar, along with adding new methods like Shiny Fishing and the Friend Safari Method. Shinies don't seem special anymore because EVERYONE HAS THEM.

Highly doubt it. Even with higher chances of finding a Shiny, coupled with a Shiny Charm, it still comes down to chance no matter what. You could for example be at 3,000 Eggs while getting a Shiny Charm and still get nothing.

 

[Lucille]

Highly doubt it. Even with higher chances of finding a Shiny, coupled with a Shiny Charm, it still comes down to chance no matter what. You could for example be at 3,000 Eggs while getting a Shiny Charm and still get nothing.

While that could happen we've pretty much figured out on Smogon that the rate with the Shiny Charm is about 1/455 and I've yet to hear anyone hatching over 2000+ eggs without finding a shiny this gen. Not saying that they should lower it but I've found 8 shinies in 1800 eggs since acquiring shiny charm

 

[Taylor516]

Highly doubt it. Even with higher chances of finding a Shiny, coupled with a Shiny Charm, it still comes down to chance no matter what. You could for example be at 3,000 Eggs while getting a Shiny Charm and still get nothing.

Very true. It took me 4,658eggs and two months of hatching eggs to finally MM breed a shiny vulpix and yes, this was on X. So it's ptobably just my bad luck but the odds really didn't feel all that great.

 

[Auraninja]

Everyone's always had them. They were never all that special. Less easy to find, maybe, but rarity doesn't equate automatically to value.

In Gen II, they tend to have higher stats by the way they were programmed. But that's it.

I'll just let you guys know that I have not had a single chain or MM work right for me, and I have had my own wealth of about 15 shinies.

 

[baconrules]

I think that Game Freak should lower the chances of finding shinies for Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby. They are just too easy to find in X and Y. Not only did they increase the shiny encounter rate; they raised the rate for the Masuda method, Poke Radar, along with adding new methods like Shiny Fishing and the Friend Safari Method. Shinies don't seem special anymore because EVERYONE HAS THEM.

I would also like to see a Pokewalker-like device. Instead of having the Pokenav, we should have the Poketch, as it has apps to choose from.

My four boxes or more beg to differ . I hate how bad of luck I have.
Anyways, who is more helpful in hoenn, swellow, skarmory, Tropius, or altaria

 

[Endolise]

I think that Game Freak should lower the chances of finding shinies for Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby. They are just too easy to find in X and Y. Not only did they increase the shiny encounter rate; they raised the rate for the Masuda method, Poke Radar, along with adding new methods like Shiny Fishing and the Friend Safari Method. Shinies don't seem special anymore because EVERYONE HAS THEM.

You say that, but I have yet to find a single Shiny in XY and I've had my game since the release date.

 

[Murder Doll]

Even if they lowered the chances of shinies in ORAS they would still be easily farmed and transferred to ORAS from X/Y

I'm using easy comparatively by the way.

 

[oarfish]

You say that, but I have yet to find a single Shiny in XY and I've had my game since the release date.

I have to agree. Although I have found a few RE shinies myself, I do not feel that the rate should be lowered.
Just because people have them does not make it a bad thing.

 

[Tattooed Tooth]

Returning to topic, this is a list of move tutors I hope they adopt in ORAS Battle Frontier (if any):

Body Slam
Mega Kick
Mega Punch
Metronome
Mimic
Dynamic Punch
Icy Wind
Air Cutter
Shock Wave
Water Pulse
Heal Bell
Seed Bomb
Gunk Shot
Earth Power
Drill Run
Sky Attack


And I wouldn't mind if we get these ones:

Ancient Power
Knock Off
Magic Coat
Magnet Rise
Synthesis
Giga Drain
Tailwind
Vacuum Wave
Dragon Pulse
Aqua Tail
Gravity
Heat Wave
Outrage
Signal Beam


But I don't want these ones returning:

Stealth Rock
Superpower
Thunder Punch
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Sucker Punch
Trick

 

[NightFire7]

I want the elemental punches. Seriously I want to slap those on Diggersby. If we get move tutors than it will be interesting what 6th gen pokes get and how that may improve them in competitive battles.

 

[Lucille]

We need Iron Tail as a move tutor move. I want that 6th gen born Iron Tail Pikachu

 

[Murder Doll]

I just want heal bell as a tutor move, so I can actually use a cleric Sylveon.

 

[Bolt the Cat]

Skill Swap please. It's useful in Horde Battles for picking out Hidden Abilities.

 

[Wulava]

I'm expecting ORAS to have all the Move Tutors from B2W2, plus all the replaced TM moves of Gen 5 (Telekinesis, Ally Switch, Work Up, and Pluck).
Also, Secret Power, the move required for creating secret bases. It was no longer a TM, just like Headbutt in HGSS.

Should be the following (That's a total of 74 moves):
[spoil]After You
Ally Switch
Aqua Tail
Bind
Blast Burn
Block
Bounce
Bug Bite
Covet
Dark Pulse
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Drain Punch
Drill Run
Dual Chop
Earth Power
Electroweb
Endeavor
Fire Pledge
Fire Punch
Foul Play
Frenzy Plant
Gastro Acid
Giga Drain
Grass Pledge
Gravity
Gunk Shot
Heal Bell
Heat Wave
Helping Hand
Hydro Cannon
Hyper Voice
Ice Punch
Icy Wind
Iron Defense
Iron Head
Iron Tail
Knock Off
Last Resort
Low Kick
Magic Coat
Magic Room
Magnet Rise
Outrage
Pain Split
Pluck
Recycle
Relic Song
Role Play
Roost
Secret Power
Secret Sword
Seed Bomb
Signal Beam
Skill Swap
Sky Attack
Sleep Talk
Snatch
Snore
Spite
Stealth Rock
Super Fang
Superpower
Synthesis
Tailwind
Telekinesis
ThunderPunch
Trick
Uproar
Water Pledge
Wonder Room
Work Up
Worry Seed
Zen Headbutt[/spoil]

 

[NightFire7]

Seriously a lot of 6th gen pokes movepools are actually pretty barren. They really would benefit from getting some decent moves from move tutors.

 

[AuraChannelerChris]

We need Iron Tail as a move tutor move. I want that 6th gen born Iron Tail Pikachu

Doesn't that move suck for the line anyway?

 

[Bolt the Cat]

I'm expecting ORAS to have all the Move Tutors from B2W2, plus all the replaced TM moves of Gen 5 (Telekinesis, Ally Switch, Work Up, and Pluck)

Should be the following (That's a total of 73 moves):
[spoil]After You
Ally Switch
Aqua Tail
Bind
Blast Burn
Block
Bounce
Bug Bite
Covet
Dark Pulse
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Drain Punch
Drill Run
Dual Chop
Earth Power
Electroweb
Endeavor
Fire Pledge
Fire Punch
Foul Play
Frenzy Plant
Gastro Acid
Giga Drain
Grass Pledge
Gravity
Gunk Shot
Heal Bell
Heat Wave
Helping Hand
Hydro Cannon
Hyper Voice
Ice Punch
Icy Wind
Iron Defense
Iron Head
Iron Tail
Knock Off
Last Resort
Low Kick
Magic Coat
Magic Room
Magnet Rise
Outrage
Pain Split
Pluck
Recycle
Relic Song
Role Play
Roost
Secret Sword
Seed Bomb
Signal Beam
Skill Swap
Sky Attack
Sleep Talk
Snatch
Snore
Spite
Stealth Rock
Super Fang
Superpower
Synthesis
Tailwind
Telekinesis
ThunderPunch
Trick
Uproar
Water Pledge
Wonder Room
Work Up
Worry Seed
Zen Headbutt[/spoil]

What about 6th gen moves? They'll probably add a few moves that were introduced in 6th gen like say, Moonblast, Phantom Force, or Freeze Dry.

 

[Tattooed Tooth]

I want the elemental punches. Seriously I want to slap those on Diggersby. If we get move tutors than it will be interesting what 6th gen pokes get and how that may improve them in competitive battles.

They were all right in gen 4, but a mistake in gen 5.
But Nasty Plot could be a nice move tutor, so Water Pulse/Icy Wind would serve you well. x)

We need Iron Tail as a move tutor move. I want that 6th gen born Iron Tail Pikachu

I'm fine with that too.

Skill Swap please. It's useful in Horde Battles for picking out Hidden Abilities.

That or Role Play, good idea indeed.

I'm expecting ORAS to have all the Move Tutors from B2W2, plus all the replaced TM moves of Gen 5 (Telekinesis, Ally Switch, Work Up, and Pluck)

Should be the following (That's a total of 73 moves):
[spoil]After You
Ally Switch
Aqua Tail
Bind
Blast Burn
Block
Bounce
Bug Bite
Covet
Dark Pulse
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Drain Punch
Drill Run
Dual Chop
Earth Power
Electroweb
Endeavor
Fire Pledge
Fire Punch
Foul Play
Frenzy Plant
Gastro Acid
Giga Drain
Grass Pledge
Gravity
Gunk Shot
Heal Bell
Heat Wave
Helping Hand
Hydro Cannon
Hyper Voice
Ice Punch
Icy Wind
Iron Defense
Iron Head
Iron Tail
Knock Off
Last Resort
Low Kick
Magic Coat
Magic Room
Magnet Rise
Outrage
Pain Split
Pluck
Recycle
Relic Song
Role Play
Roost
Secret Sword
Seed Bomb
Signal Beam
Skill Swap
Sky Attack
Sleep Talk
Snatch
Snore
Spite
Stealth Rock
Super Fang
Superpower
Synthesis
Tailwind
Telekinesis
ThunderPunch
Trick
Uproar
Water Pledge
Wonder Room
Work Up
Worry Seed
Zen Headbutt[/spoil]

There is no need for that once we never had some TMs from gen 1 and 2 back (such as Tri Attack and Fissure).
I see there is a good reason for expect all those as you said, but I *hope* the move tutors don't ruin the "fixed" meta in Kalos-born mode. <.<