If you think it had no impact on the plot, then you didn't pay attention to Alain's own character throughout the rest of the series, because it explained pretty much everything for a lot of his decisions in the end.
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One year later... WHAT was the point of the FURFROU trainer?
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If you think it had no impact on the plot, then you didn't pay attention to Alain's own character throughout the rest of the series, because it explained pretty much everything for a lot of his decisions in the end.
Everett's subplot had no impact on Alain's storyline. Not sure what you're talking about.
They could have cut out Everett's story and nothing would have changed.
Spyro39
Well-Known Member
What role did he play for Alain's character? All Everett did was whine about how he couldn't get 8 badges to compete in the Kalos League, then made Ash promise to win. However, we all knew that promise led to nothing, since the inevitable chaotic saltstorm that ensued. I don't see what that had to do with anything regarding Alain. Everett was never heard from again after the Kalos League, not even to tell off Ash for losing or to wallow in his loss like 99% of the fanbase. IMO, He was nothing more than another COTD that Ash makes a promise to but never appears again.
satopi
Life doesn’t end, …it changes.
I said nothing in my post that indicated false hype. I just don't plain like that guy for making Ash almost late to his final battle. Like I said, eff that guy.
SinnohEevee
Well-Known Member
I wasn't following the anime back then, but I remember hearing that the result for Ash will come soon, and I wasn't surprised at how losing.
But him being in the finals was unusual, itust have been to give fans false hopes.
The directors are more likely to regress Ash again than make him win anytime soon. If he gets too strong in SM, the executives will most likely push the Reset button next generation.
Most people who wanted the first regression would be outside the target audience by then anyways.
But him being in the finals was unusual, itust have been to give fans false hopes.
The directors are more likely to regress Ash again than make him win anytime soon. If he gets too strong in SM, the executives will most likely push the Reset button next generation.
Most people who wanted the first regression would be outside the target audience by then anyways.
mystic9899
Pokemon fan
nothing that happened in that scene really affected anything that happened later on, so beats me why they had that instead of the actual league battle lmao.
I kind of get why Ash's dialogue with Everett might have hyped some people up, but as you said many fans were under the impression that Ash had a high chance of winning based on other things as well. So Ash's whole encounter with Everett seems like it was blown out of proportion. ^^;
Zoruagible
Lover of underrated characters
He was utterly worthless. Ash just looked like a jerk. Promising he'd win for him and all those other trainers.... then lost to the Stu yet again. There was literally no point, they should have taken the time to show one of Ash's ACTUAL League battles.
I didn't think Ash looked like a jerk since his loss wasn't his fault and even tho he made a promise that he couldn't keep, it was supposed to be more like a morale boost for Everett from my perspective. I dunno if deep down Ash was even arrogant enough to think that he'd truly win the Kalos League.
Spyro39
Well-Known Member
And down the drain Everett's morale goes if he ever finds out Ash lost, and Ash is the one to blame for making a broken promise to him.
Before he started his battle with Titus, Ash made a declaration to the whole audience that he would win the Kalos League. Whether you view it as confidence or arrogance, it showed that he thought he was truly going to win (not that it meant anything whatsoever).
MasterTobias
Well-Known Member
Its a trope in a lot of anime,it was more like the winners inherit the loser's hope and win not only for themselves but for the people who gave it their all despite not making it as far as the MC.
If you have seen a lot of anime you propably have seen this situation before.
In most other anime other than Pokemon the MC wins the tournament if he makes a promise like that.
If you have seen a lot of anime you propably have seen this situation before.
In most other anime other than Pokemon the MC wins the tournament if he makes a promise like that.
I think that it was there to try and hype up the League as being something that was not exactly easy to get to in order to try to make Ash look better, as well as to hype up the League and his chances of winning it. I personally think they failed on all three counts and instead did something else they may not have intended: show that Ash will probably never win a League ever, at all. Let's hope that turns out not to be the case.
SinnohEevee
Well-Known Member
That should have been clear since the Sinnoh League and I don't think they care about that. The first director said they don't care about the story going in circles because the target audience keeps renewing itself.
The Kalos League simply didn't have enough time to show Ash vs Everett having a six on six battle although then again, since nothing major came out of their short battle to begin with, we didn't really need to see them battle at all truthfully. ^^;