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OU Non-Weather Team!

Discussion in 'Older Gen RMT' started by Terra Force, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. Terra Force

    Terra Force <-- Current Hunt

    Okay so this is basically my first RMT I've done. This team actually used to be a Sand team, but when I realized that I wasn't really benefitting much from the sand, I just dumped Tyranitar and made it weatherless. So this team is sorta like a Hyper Offense team in that after SR is set up, I go ahead and attack for the rest of the match, with Jellicent sponging everything in between. So now to go in depth.


    Heatran @Air Balloon
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earth Power
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    Heatran does very well on this team, picking up fire attacks aimed at Scizor and Mamoswine. He sets up SR to help rack up entry damage from all the switches this team can cause. After setting up SR, he goes on the offensive along with the rest of the team. STAB Fire Blast is nothing to laugh at, taking down the many steel types of OU, such as Skarm, Scizor, Ferro, and Forretress. Earth Power does well against other Heatran, as well as other things Fire Blast fails to affect. HP Ice is for the many pesky Dragons that plague OU such as Dragonite, Salamence, and Garchomp. In addition, Heatran has great synergy with Jellicent, absorbing grass, dark, and ghost type moves sent his way.


    Alakazam @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Magic Guard
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Psyshock
    - Focus Blast
    - Charge Beam
    - Signal Beam

    This thing is a complete monster. With Magic Guard, it takes no damage from hazards, weather, status, or life orb, which gives him a free boost with no damage. Psyshock is a great STAB move that also allows him to hit Blissey/Chansey on their defensive side. Focus Blast OHKOs CB Tyranitar in a sandstorm after stealth rocks(possibly before), among plenty of other things. Charge Beam is the surprise factor of the set, finishing off weakened opponents easily enough and picking up a nifty Sp. Att. boost for whatever may come in next. Signal Beam over Shadow Ball basically for Celebii. Timid Nature and EVs allow him to outspeed a majority of the tier.


    Mamoswine @ Life Orb
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
    Jolly Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Shard
    - Icicle Crash
    - Superpower

    Mamoswine is a great revenge killer packing STAB Ice Shard for tons of threats such as Breloom, dragons, Gliscor, and plenty of others. It also makes up for his below average speed, which is why I also gave him max speed EVs and a Jolly nature. Icicle Crash is for when I don't have to worry about taking a hit, or when Mamo outspeeds an opponent. Earthquake is, as usual, an awesome STAB to have. Superpower is there to round out coverage.


    Jellicent @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 244 HP / 216 SDef / 48 Spd
    Bold Nature
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Recover
    - Scald
    - Taunt

    Ever since I replaced Rotom-W with this, I've found much more success. It's ability to completely absorb water type attacks is a huge plus for my team. Will-O-Wisp totally cripples almost any physical pokemon that thinks it can take on Jellicent. Taunt completely shuts down pokemon like Ferrothorn and Blissey. And thanks to Will-O-Wisp and Recover, he doesn't worry about Ferrothorn's Power Whip. He has awesome synergy with basically every single pokemon here, making him the ideal special tank of the team.


    Scizor @ Choice Band
    Trait: Technician
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Bullet Punch
    - Pursuit
    - Superpower
    - U-turn

    CB Scizor is a classic set, packing one hell of a punch. This thing is pretty straight forward, using Technician Bullet Punch to revenge kill, along with Pursuit to trap and KO pokemon like Alakazam and Lati@s trying to escape. U-turn is great for keeping momentum and Superpower helps round out his coverage.


    Latias (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Calm Mind
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Roost
    - Psyshock

    At first I thought about using Latios, but decided that I needed a bulky setup sweeper, and Latias is superior in that division. Latias is great for sweeping late game once her counters are fainted or weakened enough for her to sweep. Calm Mind makes her tough to take down without a physical attacker, and even then her natural bulk and Roost keep her going. Dragon Pulse and Hidden Power Fire have great synergy together, covering most pokemon for at least neutral damage.

    So that's the team. Please tell me what you think and feel free to make new suggestions for sets, moves, EV spreads, or pokemon, I'll consider it.​

    Edits in red. In addition, I'm now looking for a replacement for Latias, as it doesn't seem to be working out well for me. It pretty much needs to have a ground immunity though since she was the best thing I had to switch into ground attacks aimed at Heatran.
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2013
  2. SoundofMadness

    SoundofMadness Speed Kills

    Looks like a solid team. The only suggestions I have are really just preference, so take all this with a grain of salt :)

    Since your Heatran is offensive in nature, I would switch the item to Air Balloon, allowing you a little extra security vs EQ / Earth Power, which Heatran really doesn't like.

    with Magic Guard, I personally really prefer a Focus Sash, as while fast, Al is pretty frail. Sash would allow you to 2HKO things that are slower than Al that would otherwise OHKO it. With that being said, i would switch charge beam (or signal beam, but I would do charge beam) to HP Ice to get better coverage against dragons and ground.

    If you get stuck in a CM war, this set will not help, as both of your attacks target SDef. I would switch HP Fire to Psyshock. You've really got Steel covered with Heatran / EQ&Superpower from Mamo/Superpower from Scizor.

    You might consider moving those 8 EVs in SDef into speed to speed creep other bulky scizor ;)

    Again, these suggestions are all just preference, as your team appears pretty solid as is.
  3. Terra Force

    Terra Force <-- Current Hunt

    I appreciate the comments, sorry it took me so long to test them, I've been very busy. I like most of them, and Alakazam seems to still be as powerful as ever even without life orb. Now I'm just looking for a replacement to Latias, as she hasn't had a single sweep and really hasn't been very helpful on this team.
  4. Eliteknight

    Eliteknight S.L.Y.

    Hey Char,

    Team overall looks good. Since your looking for a latias replacment may i suggest LO hydreigon. It is more powerful but a tad slower. It keeps the ground immunity. But it provides you with fighting weakness

    Hyderigon@Life orb
    Fire Blast
    Dragon Pulse
    Earth Power

    All moves are for coverage whic gives you neutral vs everything that isnt ballooned.
  5. SoundofMadness

    SoundofMadness Speed Kills

    The power of CM Latias comes after you get a couple of CM under her belt...

    If you're wanting something more immediate, you have quite a few options.

    If you like the SDef of Latias, you could slap a Life Orb on her and run an offensive set.

    Latias @ Life Orb
    252 SpA/252 Spd/4HP
    Timid Nature (+Spd/-Atk)
    -Draco Meteor

    If you're wanting sheer power in the same speed tier...Latios is the way to go, and with him you can either go Life Orb, Choice Specs, or Choice Scarf

    Latios @ Life Orb / Specs / Scarf
    252 SpA/252 Spd/4HP
    Timid Nature (+Spd/-Atk)
    -Draco Meteor
    -Surf / HP Fire
    -Roost / HP Fire / Trick

    If you want to go with Hydreigon, I would suggest a mixed set.

    Hydreigon @ Expert Belt
    252 SpA/252 Spd/ 4 Atk
    (+Spd/-SDef or Def) (I forget the nature name)
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -U-Turn / Earthquake

    Hopefully this helps :)

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