Kind of weird that Thunderpunch is the only Elemental Punch to be one word.
Correction: While Steel types resist a total of 11 types and 1 immunity, they however do not resist Electric-type attacks. Empoleon is still 2x weak against an Electric assault.^
DD-boosted STAB Dragon Claw deals MORE DAMAGE on Water-Types than unboosted SE T-Bolt.
Especially since D-Nite has higher Attack than SAtk.
There's really no point at all in having Thunderbolt on Dragonite.
The only exception to that is Empoleon, whose Steel typing causes it to take less damage from Dragon, but there's still no point in wasting a move slot to counter just 1 Pokemon.
It doesn't always require a SUPER-EFFECTIVE hit to kill a Pokemon. Neutral damage is still decent. A Dragonite STAB Outrage does tons of damage. Quite possibly more than your Thunderbolt, if boosted. So in general, Outrage is better. Thunderbolt is only Super-Effective against 2 types of Pokemon: Flying and Water. Not to mention that Electric has competition from Ground (immunity), and 3 other types that resist it. Dragon-type attacks have only one resistance: Steel.Ok and water types are gonna destroy that dragonite you need T-Bolt instead of surf
I think he plans to set the nature correct first. Too many options can be overwhelming to some people who are not used to it.Hey rafatlas, are you considering the posts on your thread?
Swampert@Leftovers
Adamant nature
-Avalanche
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Curse or Hammer arm.
Metagross@Expert belt
-Bullet punch/Ice punch
-Zen headbutt
-Earthquake
-Agility/Meteor mash
Dragonite@Leftovers
Adamamt nature or Jolly, just like Kays say
-Dragon dance
-Dragon claw/Outrage
-Fire punch
-Earthquake
Its the last time i help in here, cause you don't wanna use anyone moveset...
Dragonite:
Thunder
Dragon Dance
Blizzard
Aqua tail
Venasaur:
Protect
Leech Seed
Sludge bomb
Power whip
Swampert:
Waterfall
Earthquake
Ice Punch
Hydro cannon
Charizard:
Heat wave
Smokescreen (May help)
Will-O-Wisp
Fly
Salamance:
Fire blast
Dragon Claw
Rock wrecker
Thunder Fang
My sixth pokemon always varies..
I use either feraligator (just cuz hes my starter)
Blasoise
Snorlax
Or gengar..
I really think gengar would be my sixth with:
Sludge bomb
Psychic
Shadow ball
Dark pulse
I would like a recommendation on my sixth pokemon, whether i should use gengar or snorlax..
Ps: i do not care at all about the natures, please dont tell me what i already know
I think he plans to set the nature correct first. Too many options can be overwhelming to some people who are not used to it.
Just a bit of advice: when you want to "reassure" someone that something is "great," thrashing the sets that people post without a legitimate reason doesn't help. If anything, it causes more chaos and confusion. The OP is probably thinking "Fire Punch or Flamethrower?" over and over. For example:^1. Read the rules stop cursing
2. We try to help a guy out if you are getting bored create a thread about your team
3. When we re-say things its reassure him its a great moveset
4. Natures are very important for how movesets play out, but not entirely we just recomend them
5. Look at all the things you just said and look at how stupid you sound
You didn't explain why Fire Punch is inferior to Flamethrower. And you didn't explain why a set up is "isn't that amazing." Please don't thrash someone else's movesets just because you happen to personally like Flamethrower over Fire Punch. Give a reason why you think so.Dont do Fire Punch just keep Flamethrower! That set up there isnt that amzing heres much better set
Dragonite
-Flamethrower
-Dragon Dance
-Thunder
-Earthquake
Define why having an Electric attack "sounds smarter." Ice Beam can be used by Dragons, amongst many other types. Which of the 4 moves that you posted above is super-effective against Dragon-types? Handling just Water isn't the answer. You're being far too restrictive and caught up on Water-types that you're failing to see the whole picture. And like you said, nature does help in the power of a move. But so do base stats. Dragonite's base Attack power is clearly higher than his Sp. Attack. Just because Flamethrower has higher base strength than Fire Punch, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is stronger because Fire Punch is a Physical attack, drawing its power from Dragonite's higher base Attack power.No keep thunder or put in thunder bolt for those nasty water types that spam their Ice Beam. That sounds smarter! Also Flamethrower was stronger to begin with and gets a boost so Fire Punch is not the answer
You're right. Thank you for the correction.I saw Kays cursing on Brave nature somewhere, saying that it lowers attack. It doesn't, speed is lowered, attack is boosted. Brave can be used, but go with a CB or Lefties set w/o Agility in that case.