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Playing With Your Favorites

Discussion in 'Older Gens' started by Rhys29, Aug 11, 2011.

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Do you play with your favorites?

  1. Yes

    80.9%
  2. No

    19.1%
  1. AromaFlora

    AromaFlora floofy

    I saw people posting in the other "favorite (OU) Pokemon" thread that I deleted so I might as well make them aware that this thread exists.
     
  2. Porgon-XYZ

    Porgon-XYZ Wut are you saying?

    Alot of my favorites happen to be already great in general, (like Stunfisk, Typhlosion, Haxorus) but I do use my favorites even in competitive play! Just EV train them, give them the right moves and team support and... BAM! I have a team of competitive favorites!
     
  3. AudinoGlitch

    AudinoGlitch Weird Person

    I play with Stoutland whom I find cute and FLUFFEH!
     
  4. Victory

    Victory Banned

    I play with Simipour, I lover her desgin in general, and she us actually a good late game sweeper. I also use Braviary, who I find to be great with bulk up
     
  5. SurfMasta

    SurfMasta Jack-of-all-Trades

    I like to battle with a Castform. Honestly, if I put enough effort in it, I can sweep with this guy on PBR
     
  6. Monster Guy

    Monster Guy Fairy type Trainer

    I mostly play UU. Most of my favorite Pokemon are UU or below anyway so that's good for me.

    A team consisting of Mew, Yanmega, Flygon, Togekiss, Milotic, and Hitmontop actually works there, and I like them all, so it's more fun for me.

    Plus, I don't really care for a lot of the OU Pokemon.
     
  7. WillieNelson

    WillieNelson Well-Known Member

    My faves are already good(Gallade, heatran, Haxorus) but I also love Swoobat, and he is a suprisingly good CM sweeper and my sceptile SD sweeps LIKE A BOSS!
     
  8. kaiser soze

    kaiser soze Reading ADWD

    Hitmontop has done some good things for me recently. Really good Latios counter suprisingly. Bulky Volcarona too.
     
  9. BlazingCold

    BlazingCold Well-Known Member

    Well, if my favorites are good I'll use them. I'm not gonna use Delcatty in OU, but I can spark up Conkeldurr.
     
  10. Generic User Name

    Generic User Name Well-Known Member

    Dunsparce is a great Haxer. I use him alot in UU, but Jirachi is better.
     
  11. #TWERKTEAM

    #TWERKTEAM Banned

    Most of the pokemon I like kind of suck, but I've gotten to like how a few OU pokemon play, like Gengar and Reuniclus. Their designs might not make them favorites of mine but they're some of my favorite to actually use.
     
  12. pambihirang_nilalang

    pambihirang_nilalang epic AWESOMENESS!

    i have three diff. teams (wifi)
    all have Infernape
    Lead(Sash), Physical(CB) and Special one(Sash)
     
  13. TrollFreak

    TrollFreak Pit is Awesome :P

    rofl, imma fail then, i love mence but i always end up using dragonite/Latios, depends on the job i want it to do
     
  14. MasterLucario

    MasterLucario No life till leather

    Sadly, we lose 90% when we use our favorites. Certain guys like Mudquaza can make it work, but most people aren't skilled enough. If I really want to use a certain guy however, I will try to center a team around them.
     
  15. PurpleOshawatt

    PurpleOshawatt King of Awesome

    I love bouffalant and all but I don't know if he's any good
    Competitively. I'd love to know any sets For him or how to use him effectively
     
  16. MasterLucario

    MasterLucario No life till leather

    A nice choice set benefits him nicely

    Boufallant @Choice Scarf/ Band Adamant/ Jolly
    4 HP/ 252 Attack/ 252 speed Reckless/ Sap Sipper
    -Head Charge
    -Wild Charge
    -Megahorn
    -Earthquake
     
  17. PokeMaster366

    PokeMaster366 Well-Known Member

    The pokemon I consider my favorites tend to be the ones I see potential in. For example, I noticed that few people ever use Bisharp, and its cool design compelled me to do research on it. After a bit of research, I found out that it has a good ability in Defiant since it worked as a counter version of Clear Body by letting his attack go up 2 stages whenever someone else tries to NERF his attack or any other stat. This was alright at first, but when I saw that it can learn both Metal Burst and Sucker Punch, I started to come up with some good ideas with a Focus Sash set since most of my other pokemon don't use the sash. After some fine tuning and hours of breeding and poketransfer, I got Bisharp the way I wanted him.
    I took him to the 2011 VGC Regionals in Atlanta, Georgia, and honestly, I was actually able to make it to the top 8 even after some extra rounds, and I did this b/c of Bisharp, since he gave me a ray of hope against Jellicent, Chandelure, and even Terrakion and Conkeldurr.If I hadn't thought of Bisharp beforehand, I probably wouldn't have gotten as far as I did at the VGC in 2011. Truth be honest, if the programmers decided to let Defiant work whenever stat loss is self-inflicted, like when you get your own whimsicott to use tickle on Bisharp, I think Bisharp would have been an undisputable UBER game breaker. I just wish I could have gone to the Nationals, but what can you do when money is the issue.
     
  18. JRCxyz

    JRCxyz Hi

    Back when Scizor was #1, a friend of mine made this Arcanine set with Intimidate over Flash Fire that was a full Scizor counter. Was pretty cool but I can't remember it xD. (Back then a Scizor counter was really good thing to have since Scizor was in over 30% of the teams.)

    I'm in no way a "prioritized" player since I use the best option available but I do use my favorites. My most successful team actually was a team composed of 6 of my favorites. That was pretty awesome. I guess I'm lucky that my favorites include Tyranitar (back then Tar wasn't as used as much as now ._.), Infernape and Lucario (not that they're good typewise, but when combined with the other three, the teams was fairly balanced).

    I'm ok with these "prioritized" players since they can play the game how they want to play, I just think that there's a way to have fun and stay competitive. That is using pokemon that not necessarily are your favorites but that are good and you like. For example, Salamence has never been one of my favorite pokemon looks-wise but has always been one of the pokemon that I've enjoyed the most using. If I hadn't given Mence the chance because he doesn't look as cool Ape to be my mixed sweeper (depends on the team but for the sake of this example let's just say that I need any mixed sweeper), I wouldn't known how much fun and how much thinking goes into using Salamence. The same goes for the opposite case. Gyarados is an amazing pokemon, great sweeper, really good typing and versatile. However, and the ones that remember me when I played know what I'll say, I could never use Gyarados to success (even though it's easy to use in comparison with many other sweepers that need some more thinking into it). Of course, I got a sweep every once in a while, but I don't feel "comfortable" using it.

    So what I mean by that is that I know why some people don't want to use certain options and not always is just about how much you like or don't like the looks of the pokemon but how much you like or don't like actually using the pokemon. I just think it's kind of silly to limit yourself to only the same few pokemon for every team just because you don't like how the sprite of the suggested pokemon look.


    That said, wow Rhys you're still here ;D. Blue Harvest I see hasn't left yet, either. How's it going, guys? Is anybody else left?
     
  19. ShadowSplash

    ShadowSplash Don't Mess With Me



    No one said that your favorites have to be UU and below.

    You can't say that isn't how competitive works. If someone wants to try to build a team with only their favorites, I immediately have much more respect for you than someone who just throws together a team of OU Pokemon because they think those are the best.

    I make sure that all of the Pokemon on my team are my favorites. And I am not less-effective as a battler as anyone else. I might not have a perfect win/loss record, but I'm winning quite a bit more than I'm losing. And that's almost always against teams that are higher tiers than me.

    You're kidding, right? The most creative team and strategy you could make is to break away from the norm and make something using Pokemon that are not normally seen out on the field. Who wants to see purely OU Pokemon when you could come across a team that has Raichu and Sandslash on it, and then have it kick your a*s? When everyone is using OU or Uber Pokemon, you know what to expect when they throw that out at you. If someone threw out Beedrill, yeah you know it's stats and type weaknesses, but you might not be prepared for what strategy they have up their sleeve, since that's not a Pokemon you're always seeing out there.

    And why is that bad? What if they still win with Pinsir? You can't say that using the more inferior Pokemon automatically dooms them to failure. There was someone at a Pokemon tournament 2 years ago who won, and his team had Beedrill, Sandslash and some other UU/NU Pokemon on it. And you were allowed to use 2 Ubers, and he had one. He was in the top 3. Just because I have a Flygon and not Salamence of Dragonite on my team doesn't mean I'm going to lose. It's not always about the Pokemon, it's how you strategize and build your team. I've seen OU and Uber teams fall to UU and NU teams. It's not horribly uncommon. Besides, it's not even fun when everyone has 6 Pokemon from the same group (being OU) of Pokemon, and everyone knows what to expect. Someone sends out TTar and you're just yawning because this is the 17th Sandstorm team you've battled.

    I think you're generalizing too much. And who's to say that someone's "favorites" is limited to only 10 Pokemon. You could ask me to list my favorites, and I would probably get to about 50, and then my secondary (not top top favorites, but Pokemon I really like) would put that list to 150+. Honestly, yes, if someone is saying they're only going to use a specific 6 Pokemon, then that's not going to get them far. But I think you're generalizing way too much because a lot of players who will use their favorites are very open to suggestions. They aren't going to just drop their favorite one for something that's not their favorite, but they can take the idea of "Well, you need a Pokemon that can counter Bronzong, and you don't have any fire Pokemon or fire moves." Something like that, they will take into consideration. To say that all of the people who are using their favorites are completely close minded is rather harsh considering that I only use my favorites and I'm very flexible and willing to try out a different Pokemon (as long as it's not something I don't like). In fact, in the last 5 months I've tried so many different options and to this day I'm still practicing and refining my main team. And I am very open-minded on the subject. And I am a good battler with a very good strategy.

    Again generalizing. My team of favorites only has one OU Pokemon on my team. The rest of my Pokemon are UU, RU, or NU. And when I run into a team of OU or Ubers, I don't give up. And because of that, I've won many times against full OU teams. Yes, I'm not going to beat a full Ubers team anymore, now that I've retired my only Uber off my team, but I don't expect a full OU team to beat a full Uber team either. They're Uber for a reason. But the mere fact that I can take down 4 Ubers on a team with my team tells me that I don't need to make an OU team to win.

    I respect Smogon's tiers because 99% of the time, if a Pokemon is in a tier, that's where it should be. The Uber Pokemon are in there for a reason, the OU, UU, etc. Smogon earns my respect for the most part for that. However, it's wrong if you believe that an UU Pokemon is going to be completely slaughtered in the higher tiers. I won't repeat myself again, but my team has on OU and everything is below, yet I've beaten teams of full OU and even teams that have a couple of Ubers.

    If you've personally experienced the thrill, why are you putting people down for using their favorites? You just said you've had your Nidoking become a powerhouse sweeper. Or was that only against Pokemon of your tier? I bet if you really wanted to, you could use Nidoking, along with your favorites, against OU Pokemon.

    I'll agree with you here. But there are a ton of people that will use UU and lower Pokemon even in the higher tiers, regardless of what people think or say. And they can win.

    I'm not trying to have a fight with you. But when I've personally seen and experience people using lower tier Pokemon (their favorites), and winning, I have extreme respect and it makes me happy to see that not everyone tries to just do what they feel is what wins.
     
  20. JRCxyz

    JRCxyz Hi

    I know you directed your post at Rhys but I'll reply to it. Shadowslash, why are you so proud you can win with a team of UU/NU in OU? This is something I don't get. People seem to have this idea that using lower tiers make you in some way "special" or "unique". I believe this was mentioned in the Op. I mean, is there really that much difference from copying and pasting an OU pokemon's set or an UU/NU's that is listed to be used in OU anyways. "I use Pinsir instead of Heracross, therefore I'm a better player than the one who uses Heracross and I'm more original." How so? Also, why do you "respect people who use their favorites instead of using what they think will win"? You see a Tyranitar and "yawn because it's the 17th time you've played against it". Really? So if a favorite of mine is in OU, like Tar or Lucario, I stop being original? I stop having your respect? How does that work?

    I do use the pokemon I like. If my favorite doesn't fit a team, I change it. I don't think of myself a better player because I use lower tiers. I see people using the fact that they use lower tiers as an excuse for their losses and as a way to make their wins more "special". I just don't like this self-admiration that goes on with people who use lower tiered pokemon.
     

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