Please Rate My Team!

[miraiyouko]

Emerald Team Help

Hi, I would like my Emerald team rated. I think it works well as it is, but I would also like to hear your opinions for a better/stronger team.

Umbreon @Blackglasses
Nature: Lax
Ability: Synchronize
--Bite
--Moonlight
--Faint Attack
--Confuse Ray

Swampert @Mystic Water
Nature: Calm
Ability: Torrent
--Surf
--Dig (wanting to get rid of for Counter)
--Earthquake
--Ice Beam

Magneton @Magnet
Nature: Lax
Ability: Magnet Pull
--Thunderbolt
--Lock-On
--Tri Attack
--Zap Cannon

Espeon @TwistedSpoon
Nature: Brave
Ability: Synchronize
--Psybeam
--Psychic
--Morning Sun
--Swift

Hariyama @Black Belt
Nature: Naive
Ability: Guts
--Fake Out
--Reversal
--Vital Throw
--Rock Smash

Swellow @Sharp Beak
Nature: Brave
Ability: Guts
--Fly
--Aerial Ace
--Endeavor
--Quick Attack

 

[aragornbird]

Don’t use items that only boost one type. This includes Magnet, Charcoal, Mystic Water, Sea Incense, Nevermeltice, Miracle Seed, Spell Tag, Hard Rock, Sharp Beak, Poison Barb, Metal Coat, Dragon Fang, Soft Sand, Silver Powder, Blackbelt, Blackglasses, etc.


Umbreon @Leftovers
Nature: Lax
Ability: Synchronize
--Baton Pass
--Moonlight
--Mean Look
--Taunt/Toxic

Swampert @Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Torrent
--Surf
--Rest
--Earthquake
--Ice Beam

Magneton @Leftovers
Nature: Lax
Ability: Magnet Pull
--Thunderbolt
--Substitute
--Thunder Wave
--Metal Sound

Espeon @Leftovers
Nature: Brave
Ability: Synchronize
--Calm Mind
--Psychic
--Morning Sun
--Baton Pass/Bite

Hariyama @Leftovers
Nature: Naive
Ability: Guts
--Fake Out
--Cross Chop
--Rock Slide
--Counter/Bulk Up

Swellow @Choice Band
Nature: Brave
Ability: Guts
--Return
--Aerial Ace
--Steel Wing
--Quick Attack

 

[miraiyouko]

Okay, thanks, but where do I get all those Leftovers from? And why wouldn't Umbreon have any offensive attacks?

 

[aragornbird]

Umbreon’s attack stats suck and it’s best used as a support Pokémon.
You can get infinite Leftovers from the Battle Frontier, and there’s also a free one in the trashcan of the restaurant in Lilycove.

 

[Amaranth]

Oh no move enhancing items there crap frankly leffties are better for ingame there in the boat to the battle froenteir or buy them in the points shop

 

[miraiyouko]

okay, I forgot about the battle frontier. thanks. I'll try this out.

 

[Tazzler]

i suggest the factory to get a lot of points for items and moves

 

[galadrial]

Umbreon @Blackglasses
Nature: Lax
Ability: Synchronize
--Bite
--Moonlight
--Faint Attack
--Confuse Ray

Swampert @Mystic Water
Nature: Calm
Ability: Torrent
--Surf
--Dig (wanting to get rid of for Counter)
--Earthquake
--Ice Beam

Magneton @Magnet
Nature: Lax
Ability: Magnet Pull
--Thunderbolt
--Lock-On
--Tri Attack
--Zap Cannon

Espeon @TwistedSpoon
Nature: Brave (this is a horrible nature for this type of pokemon modest maybe)Ability: Synchronize
--Psybeam
--Psychic
--Morning Sun
--Swift

Hariyama @Black Belt
Nature: Naive
Ability: Guts
--Fake Out
--Reversal
--Vital Throw
--Rock Smash

Swellow @Sharp Beak
Nature: Brave (adamant works much better)
Ability: Guts
--Fly
--Aerial Ace
--Endeavor
--Quick Attack

I just recomend getting some better natures for some of your pokemon because swellow's and espeon's are just about opposite as they can get as far a what they need. for swello I recomend this moveset.
~ Substitute
~ Endeavor
~ Baton Pass
~ Return /
HP Flying/ quick attack other wise follow aragornbird's recommendations.

 

[Nightdawn]

OR you can get mass leftovers in Colluseum i have 25 st

 

[aragornbird]

Swellow can't learn Baton Pass. =\

 

[Tazzler]

It can through XD.

 

[top 8 guy]

I say teach Umbreon these moves.

Moonlight
Double Team
Toxic
Confuse Ray or Protect

That way you use double team until your low on health then moonlight, after about 3 double teams use toxic, then confuse ray and if your hurt use moonlight again and then the rest of double teams if you get my drift

 

[aragornbird]

It can through XD.

Hmm, that’s true. But I'd try to avoid XD Tutors since not everyone has that game.

I say teach Umbreon these moves.

Moonlight
Double Team
Toxic
Confuse Ray or Protect

That way you use double team until your low on health then moonlight, after about 3 double teams use toxic, then confuse ray and if your hurt use moonlight again and then the rest of double teams if you get my drift

Wish > Moonlight (More PP)
Taunt > Double Team (Enemy used Rest/Heal Bell/Aromatherapy/Refresh)

 

[top 8 guy]

no my moveset that I said is better

 

[aragornbird]

Double Team is a waste of time and is really quite noobish. Even with 6 DT’s, you aren’t guaranteed from getting hit so you might as well use a move that’s way more reliable.

 

[top 8 guy]

No it's not and if you do get hit you have moonlight. Moonlight is better than wish because wish takes time and you can always give moonlight a pp max. Double Team helps prevent being hit so its useful

 

[aragornbird]

Even with PP Max, it’ll only have 8 PP, while Wish has 10 with no PP Ups. Also, Wish can be used to heal other team members. Moonlight is okay if you’re lazy and don’t want to breed.

And like I said before, the enemy can still hit you no matter how many Double Teams you use. Don’t rely on luck to win your battles.

 

[top 8 guy]

But it's not luck but anyway you could switch it with protect. With wish if your on your last pokemon and slow but got low hp nothing left you can't use wish straight away so moonlight is the better option

 

[Frost Nova]

DT sucks because it relies on luck instead of strategy. You could get six DTs up and the foe can still hit you. Or you could DT once and have the opponent miss every single time. Besides, anything that can Roar, Whirlwind, Haze, or have moves that never miss will definitely fuck you up.

And you're basically screwed when you have Umbreon as your last pokemon: the point of having Umbreon in a team is to tear apart stalling pokemon with Taunt and to heal teammates by Baton Passing Wishes.

Your argument doesn't stand. Please get your facts right before you prostrate yourself before the First Evil known as Double Team.

Personally I like this for Umbreon.

Umbreon@lefties
Impish / Relaxed Nature
- Wish
- Substitute / Protect
- Toxic
- Baton Pass

Mean Look isn't that useful ingame since the AI rarely switches. Toxic is there to deal secondary damage, while Sub / Protect prolong the Toxic damage. Sub is the better choice since it can be BPed along with Wish. Relaxed is suggested so Umbreon takes the hit before it Baton Passes the Wish.

Use the sets aragornbird suggested with these natures.

Swampert - Relaxed
Magneton - Modest
Espeon - Modest / Calm (for Baton Passing set)
Hariyama - Adamant
Swellow - Adamant

 

[aragornbird]

Wish doesn’t need to be Baton Passed. Just switch out and it works automatically.