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Pocket Monsters (2019) Characters Speculation Thread

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I honestly dunno what people want from Ash at this point. What else does he have to achieve to satisfy their needs? Become the Champion of Kanto? Would that be enough? Would becoming a Pokemon Master satisfy the thirst for Ash glory and perfection? I don't get it.
On the top of my head:

- Age.
- Use his reserves.
- Show off all he has learned throughout the years.
- Stop pretending he has never seen Pokemon he had already seen before.
- Recall the past, which is a wealth of conversation starters.
- Win leagues more often.
- MATURE ALREADY.
- Or at least get replaced by someone else to justify the focus on a 10-year(?) old and let the writers know he has overstayed his 20-year long welcome.
 
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Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
I honestly dunno what people want from Ash at this point. What else does he have to achieve to satisfy their needs? Become the Champion of Kanto? Would that be enough? Would becoming a Pokemon Master satisfy the thirst for Ash glory and perfection? I don't get it.

Turning 11 would be a good start, saying he's done all that he's done within a single year is starting to get ridiculous.

"Hi I'm Ash Ketchum, I've traveled through Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Kanto again, Sinnoh, Kalos, Alola, and participated in all the Pokemon Leagues. Won the Orange League, Kanto Battle Frontier challenge, Alola League, completed a full semester of Pokemon school, and traveled the entire world again and I'm not even 11 years old!"
 

Twilight-Kun

Pokemon World Champion
I honestly dunno what people want from Ash at this point. What else does he have to achieve to satisfy their needs? Become the Champion of Kanto? Would that be enough? Would becoming a Pokemon Master satisfy the thirst for Ash glory and perfection? I don't get it.
I'll settle for him being written well, like we saw in episode two of the new series and then barely ever since.
 

Pokegirl Fan~

Golden Queen
Turning 11 would be a good start, saying he's done all that he's done within a single year is starting to get ridiculous.

"Hi I'm Ash Ketchum, I've traveled through Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Kanto again, Sinnoh, Kalos, Alola, and participated in all the Pokemon Leagues. Won the Orange League, Kanto Battle Frontier challenge, Alola League, completed a full semester of Pokemon school, and traveled the entire world again and I'm not even 11 years old!"
Ash is not going to turn 11 lol. Its a cartoon, 5 years could pass in a single series and he'll still be 10.
 

Spider-Phoenix

#ChespinGang
I maintain my theory that a year has more than 12 months on PokéEarth and that's why 10 year olds are considered adults (per Shudo's statements in the novel)

Dunno if that was a way for them to honor Shudo's vision of Ash but if it was then consider me impressed by how long they were willing to extend Ash's loser legacy.

Considering what he's said about Pallet Town in the novel, just his achievements up until his departure to Hoenn made him pretty sucessful. He's probably well-regarded and respected in his hometown

After reading the translations for the novel, I started to think the real reason Ash always finds a reason to get out of Pallet is that he doesn't want to call attention because, on his eyes, his achievements are too little compared to his dream
 

Ubermuk

Sticky & Sweet
Considering what he's said about Pallet Town in the novel, just his achievements up until his departure to Hoenn made him pretty sucessful. He's probably well-regarded and respected in his hometown

Probably but it would be nice to maybe see more interactions between the Pallet town citizens and Ash. The place seems like a standard sized town but we only ever see Delia and Oak and occasionally background characters in crowd scenes like at the party after the Indigo league.
 

Leonhart

Imagineer
Spider-Phoenix said:
After reading the translations for the novel, I started to think the real reason Ash always finds a reason to get out of Pallet is that he doesn't want to call attention because, on his eyes, his achievements are too little compared to his dream

I always just assumed that he was impulsive. I've actually always had a problem with that part of him, and especially the fact that he hardly visits his mother or stays in Masara Town for long on-screen in recent sagas. I really wish that his home base in this series had been Masara Town instead of Kuchiba City.
 

Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
I always just assumed that he was impulsive. I've actually always had a problem with that part of him, and especially the fact that he hardly visits his mother or stays in Masara Town for long on-screen in recent sagas. I really wish that his home base in this series had been Masara Town instead of Kuchiba City.

It really should have been. So many interesting characters there like Delia, Oak, Tracey, Ash's various Pokemon, possible visits from Gary/Brock/Misty....
But I guess they can't be arsed to bother with huge amounts of continuity.

Not to mention Mimey being around wouldn't feel as forced as it does
 

Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
I'd like to see Tracey again since he worked for Professor Oak and should still be in Kanto somewhere. I never realized how much I missed him until he stopped appearing after Dp. :(

I wanna see him too. He didn't even get a cameo in SM!
Could at least say he was off with Daisy or something
 

Leonhart

Imagineer
I don't have any particular feelings for Kenji, but he's probably one of the few characters who I feel deserves to appear again, mostly because he was a previous cast member who has been missing for quite some time.
 

MidnightMelody

Hopeful for Gen 8
Wouldn't a year have to pass by the time he fights Leon assuming the world cup is only yearly and not like monthly? I mean technically a year passed at least since Dawn was planning to do the Wallace Cup again in BW.
 

playerking

Sick of dealing with idiots.
On the top of my head:

- Age.
- Use his reserves.
- Show off all he has learned throughout the years.
- Stop pretending he has never seen Pokemon he had already seen before.
- Recall the past, which is a wealth of conversation starters.
- Win leagues more often.
- MATURE ALREADY.
- Or at least get replaced by someone else to justify the focus on a 10-year(?) old and let the writers know he has overstayed his 20-year long welcome.

I mean:

- NOT going to happen.
- That's true.
- He does every now and then.
- He hardly, if not ever acts like he has never seen a Pokemon before. And don't give me him using his Pokedexes, because there can be new information sometimes.
- He does recall the past, rarely, but he does and just not lately. Why does he need to anyway? Is an episode going to be bad if he doesn't remember when he used a Haunter in his second and final Saffron City Gym battle?
- He gradually because stronger in order to win a league. He shouldn't have won a league so easily and now that he has won a game-cannon league, he can win more in the future, so give him the opportunity to possibly win some more leagues in the future.
- He's not THAT immature. He's just immature every now and then and it's likely that won't go away since he's still 10 years old.
- Why in the frick would they need to justify the focus on a 10-year-old and him overstaying his welcome is just your opinion.
 

Leonhart

Imagineer
MidnightMelody said:
Wouldn't a year have to pass by the time he fights Leon assuming the world cup is only yearly and not like monthly? I mean technically a year passed at least since Dawn was planning to do the Wallace Cup again in BW.

Whether a year passes doesn't matter in terms of the characters aging, though. The third Pikachu short marked at least a year having passed since Satoshi began his journey, yet he still didn't turn eleven.
 

MidnightMelody

Hopeful for Gen 8
Whether a year passes doesn't matter in terms of the characters aging, though. The third Pikachu short marked at least a year having passed since Satoshi began his journey, yet he still didn't turn eleven.
Pretty sure that was dubbed only so it should not count. Aging him would not hurt anyone kids could care less. I never cared he was ten as a kid I'd have been find watching even if he was older.
 

Cptnmac1

Well-Known Member
Whether a year passes doesn't matter in terms of the characters aging, though. The third Pikachu short marked at least a year having passed since Satoshi began his journey, yet he still didn't turn eleven.

The magnet train was also said to be a year away from completion during johto and was then seen finished and fully operational at the end of BW implying over a year had passed.

At this point we just have to come to terms that even though years pass, no one ages
 
I mean:

- NOT going to happen.
- That's true.
- He does every now and then.
- He hardly, if not ever acts like he has never seen a Pokemon before. And don't give me him using his Pokedexes, because there can be new information sometimes.
- He does recall the past, rarely, but he does and just not lately. Why does he need to anyway? Is an episode going to be bad if he doesn't remember when he used a Haunter in his second and final Saffron City Gym battle?
- He gradually because stronger in order to win a league. He shouldn't have won a league so easily and now that he has won a game-cannon league, he can win more in the future, so give him the opportunity to possibly win some more leagues in the future.
- He's not THAT immature. He's just immature every now and then and it's likely that won't go away since he's still 10 years old.
- Why in the frick would they need to justify the focus on a 10-year-old and him overstaying his welcome is just your opinion.
And that's your opinion too. Still, I stay by my opinion.
 

Spider-Phoenix

#ChespinGang
Probably but it would be nice to maybe see more interactions between the Pallet town citizens and Ash. The place seems like a standard sized town but we only ever see Delia and Oak and occasionally background characters in crowd scenes like at the party after the Indigo league.

I kind wish we could get a filler where we see some of the kids from Pallet became fans of him.

I always just assumed that he was impulsive. I've actually always had a problem with that part of him, and especially the fact that he hardly visits his mother or stays in Masara Town for long on-screen in recent sagas. I really wish that his home base in this series had been Masara Town instead of Kuchiba City.

I used to think the same and have this whole situation as the one thing I don't like about him but after reading the novels, my mind really changed.

Ash does care for Delia. He just doesn't want to bother her or feel like a burden. He didn't talk about the shortcomings of his first day out there with Pikachu. She doesn't know about the Spearow fiasco. All that mattered to him was making sure she knew he's on Viridian already.

I particularly like the bit where Ash calls her to tell about the Boulder Badge and Shudos writes a later scene with Delia revealing she "just wanted to be remembered".

Their scenes on SM clearly kind of comunicate quite well with that small scene on Ash's room before his birthday. Ash feeling embarassed about his mom visiting him on the school was one of the few times he felt he was a kid on pre-school again (by the way would have loved to see a bit of how Ash was like on school. Shudo hinted he used to be bullied but was of the kind that rather than fight back, took matters to teachers. In this regard, Delia reminds me of my mom because she taught me the same lol)

Even on the ICY movie, despite being a different continuity, we have such scenes including a bit where Verity clearly seemed to assume Ash was a spoiled brat/momma's big baby (before ultimately being proven wrong hehe)

TL;DR He does care. He just wants her to know he is an independant man but will always remember her and make use of everything she taught.

Delia made Ash Ketchum the character we see today. An altrustic kid, who won't give up no matter the odds and shortcomings. Who will listen to people's problem and try to help them.

Delia is the True Heroine of this show (sorry Serena though you can keep that "Legendary Heroine" title; you are great too)
 

Leonhart

Imagineer
MidnightMelody said:
Pretty sure that was dubbed only so it should not count.

It wasn't dub-only. I saw the Japanese version of that Pikachu short, and a year having passed since Satoshi left Masara Town was explicitly mentioned in said version. The point is that time does pass in the anime, but it doesn't mean that the characters should be expected to age during that time. That's just how the Pokemon world is in the anime.
 
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