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Pocket Monsters (2019) Pokémon Speculation Thread

ShadowForce720

Well-Known Member
The problem with the Unova squad getting redemption is that I doubt the writers will even bother with them. The series has been a nostalgia/popularity fest so far, so why bring back Palpitoad or Boldore when you can bring back Charizard or Greninja? At best we'd get Krookodile and the starters back, and even then I don't count on it.
This is unfortunately true. Out of all the Saga squads, Unova is basically the most forgettable along with Johto and prob the most unlikely to even be bother to be brought back. They likely very well still do remember they exist but even with that, it’d be a miracle if they’d even bothered bringing them back, even for some battles considering they were really bad.
Considering that they have no problem bringing Chuck back even though there are way more popular and more well known characters, I don’t think you can really count some of Ash’s reserves out just because they aren’t as popular as some of Ash’s other Pokémon.
 

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
I agree that there isn't much demand for Gantle and Gamagaru. In order for them to get screen-time in the future they'd have to be desirable, but they can't be desirable if they don't show up often enough. So it's basically a catch-22.
Honestly two of my favorite Unova Pokémon.

Palpitoad had a good and diverse moveset that set it apart to most of Ash's previous Water-types (having 2 STABS and a poignant coverage move against its biggest weakness - and a good support move in Supersonic). I often wish Oshawott wasn't caught so Palpitoad could've gotten some love.

I personally thought that Boldore had an amazing battling style (and moveset) - essentially being a Rock-type that actually fought as a Rock-type (as opposed to Lycanroc which is a generic cookiecutter speedy physical attacker that Ash always uses).

In fact, I kinda feel that way about quite a few of the Unova team:
- Leavanny: Used more as a Bug-type then Heracross ever was.
- Scraggy: Love its defensive moves and kicking-style along with Focus Blast-spam. I mean this thing blocked an Aqua Tail blast with HJK and a Giga Impact with Focus Blast. Let it come back, evolve it into Scrafty and it will be amazing.
- Pignite: Yes, three Fire-type moves, but they're all so different that it unironically makes it incredibly well rounded when they finally added Brick Break.
- Krookodile: No complaints. :)

Concluding: Ash could've done without Oshawott and Snivy in Unova.
 
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Leonhart

Imagineer
Pokegirl Fan~ said:
I can see Lillie with Alolan Ninetails, Magearna, and Cleffa/Clegairy/Clefable
A member of the Pippi line on her team would make sense, and I still think that the writers missed an opportunity to give her one in SM. I wish they'd done that instead of the Magearna subplot.
 

PsychoLogical

Well-Known Member
Honestly two of my favorite Unova Pokémon.

Palpitoad had a good and diverse moveset that set it apart to most of Ash's previous Water-types (having 2 STABS and a poignant coverage move against its biggest weakness - and a good support move in Supersonic). I often wish Oshawott wasn't caught so Palpitoad could've gotten some love.

I personally thought that Boldore had an amazing battling style (and moveset) - essentially being a Rock-type that actually fought as a Rock-type (as opposed to Lycanroc which is a generic cookiecutter speedy physical attacker that Ash always uses).

In fact, I kinda feel that way about quite a few of the Unova team:
- Leavanny: Used more as a Bug-type then Heracross ever was.
- Scraggy: Love its defensive moves and kicking-style along with Focus Blast-spam. I mean this thing blocked an Aqua Tail blast with HJK and a Giga Impact with Focus Blast. Let it come back, evolve it into Scrafty and it will be amazing.
- Pignite: Yes, three Fire-type moves, but they're all so different that it unironically makes it incredibly well rounded when they finally added Brick Break.
- Krookodile: No complaints. :)

Concluding: Ash could've done without Oshawott and Snivy in Unova.
I would’ve been fine with Oshawott and Snivy if they just evolved at least instead of being the shafted useless mons they were, Snivy had the most potential but stayed a Snivy with like no changes. It was just there. No new moves, not even an evolution. Oshawott never won a battle after BW062 and was just the usual useless water starter gag mon. There was a report that it was originally supposed to be at least a Dewott but was one of the things scrapped thanks to the earthquake and nuclear disaster, tho that’s just mainly an unconfirmed rumor/report.
 

Decidueye23

Well-Known Member
I would’ve been fine with Oshawott and Snivy if they just evolved at least instead of being the shafted useless mons they were, Snivy had the most potential but stayed a Snivy with like no changes. It was just there. No new moves, not even an evolution. Oshawott never won a battle after BW062 and was just the usual useless water starter gag mon. There was a report that it was originally supposed to be at least a Dewott but was one of the things scrapped thanks to the earthquake and nuclear disaster, tho that’s just mainly an unconfirmed rumor/report.

I agree. I loved ashs snivy but they should have evolved it. Entire series no move change either. It was sad. Although i do wonder why did they not evolve pignite all the way?
 

PsychoLogical

Well-Known Member
I agree. I loved ashs snivy but they should have evolved it. Entire series no move change either. It was sad. Although i do wonder why did they not evolve pignite all the way?
I kinda have two theories regarding Pignite about not becoming Emboar. One was because of Bianca and the other was due to how they thought they could make another “Charizard” but due to how very unpopular Emboar is due to its design, they abandoned the idea of wanting it go all the way as a result.
 

MegaSalamence05

Well-Known Member
If they do utilize the Isle of Armor story. Obviously the pandemic put things into a difficult position with the approach to the anime. As the isle of armor has been out for a considerable amount of time it does make sense for Goh to get a Dynamax band from Mustard while Ash learns that this is where Leon trained. Continuing the aspiration of achievement of wanting to battle Leon.

With Ash and Goh as the story does make sense for both. But because of the two and the conflicting goals it might make things difficult.
 

PsychoLogical

Well-Known Member
If they do utilize the Isle of Armor story. Obviously the pandemic put things into a difficult position with the approach to the anime. As the isle of armor has been out for a considerable amount of time it does make sense for Goh to get a Dynamax band from Mustard while Ash learns that this is where Leon trained. Continuing the aspiration of achievement of wanting to battle Leon.

With Ash and Goh as the story does make sense for both. But because of the two and the conflicting goals it might make things difficult.
I think the pandemic barely affected much of the production tbh. The real issue is how they’ll execute the IOA in the anime which like you said basically has two things that could likely get carried out which is Go getting his own Dynamax band and also starting to do some dynamaxing himself and Ash doing training under Leon’s mentor aka Mustard out of wanting to do whatever it takes to beat Leon. This basically also applies to the CT as well where they got to think of something to include the duo doing their own thing despite the conflicting goals of the duo.
 

Pikachu111213

Traveler
If I had to guess I’d say the next couple of episodes will be the Kanto birds, Riolu Evo (if it doesn’t happen in the Bea rematch episode like I think it will), Ash mystery capture, Raboot evolution episode, and that Hoenn related one with the Ludicolo and marshtomp.

now that I think about it, the Ludicolo and marshtomp episode could be raboots evolution episode. We know it loves to dance and that was with a group of Ludicolo, so who knows.
 
If I had to guess I’d say the next couple of episodes will be the Kanto birds, Riolu Evo (if it doesn’t happen in the Bea rematch episode like I think it will), Ash mystery capture, Raboot evolution episode, and that Hoenn related one with the Ludicolo and marshtomp.

now that I think about it, the Ludicolo and marshtomp episode could be raboots evolution episode. We know it loves to dance and that was with a group of Ludicolo, so who knows.
That reminds me that his dance group had Lombre and Lotad.
 
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