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Pocket Monsters (2019) Pokémon Speculation Thread

kickachu

Momentai!
you know I kind of have a feeling that this eevee situation will be hopefully similar to the gible thing most of us were upset when knoury caught gible but later on ash caught his own so next year there'll be an episode where all eeveeloutions are featured and ash will catch umbreon/espeon/sylveon ( as a way for amourshipping to increase as in both have syvleon only ash's will be male like negaishipping where ash caught aragonite and now ash and iris both have one and goh will get glaceon. What'd you think?
 

Decidueye23

Well-Known Member
you know I kind of have a feeling that this eevee situation will be hopefully similar to the gible thing most of us were upset when knoury caught gible but later on ash caught his own so next year there'll be an episode where all eeveeloutions are featured and ash will catch umbreon/espeon/sylveon ( as a way for amourshipping to increase as in both have syvleon only ash's will be male like negaishipping where ash caught aragonite and now ash and iris both have one and goh will get glaceon. What'd you think?
Well thats a different situation because khoury was a temporsry character never to be seen again. Although chloe might not appear as frequently as the guys do, she is still going to appear throight the series and eevee seems to be be her most noteworthy thibg as of yet. So its quite different. I still have hopes that ash would get an espeon.
 

Leonhart

Imagineer
kickachu said:
you know I kind of have a feeling that this eevee situation will be hopefully similar to the gible thing most of us were upset when knoury caught gible but later on ash caught his own so next year there'll be an episode where all eeveeloutions are featured and ash will catch umbreon/espeon/sylveon ( as a way for amourshipping to increase as in both have syvleon only ash's will be male like negaishipping where ash caught aragonite and now ash and iris both have one and goh will get glaceon. What'd you think?

I personally think that's a stretch given that Kazunari wasn't a permanent member of the cast, so him sharing a species of Pokemon with Satoshi wasn't a point of contention. Also, I don't understand why anyone would try to predict Satoshi's future captures based on shipping, especially shipping subplots that haven't been touched in years. And for the record, Satoshi capturing Kairyu had nothing to do with NegaiShipping: he didn't even remember Iris when he caught Kairyu.
 

kickachu

Momentai!
I personally think that's a stretch given that Kazunari wasn't a permanent member of the cast, so him sharing a species of Pokemon with Satoshi wasn't a point of contention. Also, I don't understand why anyone would try to predict Satoshi's future captures based on shipping, especially shipping subplots that haven't been touched in years. And for the record, Satoshi capturing Kairyu had nothing to do with NegaiShipping: he didn't even remember Iris when he caught Kairyu.
I meant as a reference
 

Dzentelmen

Active Member
If anyone gets Grookey it's going to be Goh. It could work as an arc for Sobble to grow up. If Goh gets Grookey and he starts using it in battles, Sobble could feel like it's falling behind compared to Cinderace and Grookey which could be used to make it more confident and evolve.
 

Dephender

Gizakawayusu
Staff member
Moderator
I actually dont really get the reason behind this. I get why the episodes of Tr vs TP were scrapped but why did they have to completely scrap out zekrom is something i still dont get.

While the initial postponement of the Rocket VS Plasma episodes was because of the earthquake, the scrapping of that plotline entirely almost 100% certainly happened because of how incompatible it was with B2W2's plot. Everything they had in mind for their adaptation of the original BW's evil team plot had to be thrown out the window entirely, and that almost definitely included what they had planned for Zekrom.
 

PsychoLogical

Well-Known Member
While the initial postponement of the Rocket VS Plasma episodes was because of the earthquake, the scrapping of that plotline entirely almost 100% certainly happened because of how incompatible it was with B2W2's plot. Everything they had in mind for their adaptation of the original BW's evil team plot had to be thrown out the window entirely, and that almost definitely included what they had planned for Zekrom.
They couldn't just try to do an anime original plot like trying to merge both BW and BW2's plots instead? I would assume that could've been possible.
 

dman_dustin

Well-Known Member
This is a really ridiculous thing to assume. There's nothing that's going to stop them from having him own more than usual. If you ever watched the entire anime and I mean literally, they never cared about screentime, they literally never did. This isn't an opinion here, it's sad reality. The sole purpose of the anime is marketing and marketing alone. And considering Ash is an iconic figure at this point, just about anything they toss into his roster will likely get a solid amount of attention depending on what it is. And since in this series it's shown that he's no longer restricted to one region for captures, the possibilities are endless for them. They'll be making a ton of merch sales if they continue to have him own old gen mons that are highly marketable like they did with the two Kanto captures and especially Lucario. Rolling in dough, a ton of it. It's all about the money. Not ridiculous statements like this assuming that they do care when they don't.


Except in Kanto and Unova he already had more than a full team by now.

So then why is it that his team is acting like every other series than the ones he did catch the most?

Look I wanted Ash with a lot of captures, I wanted Ash to be treated fairly in terms of captures in comparison to Go, because I didn't want Go to exist just so Ash wouldn't catch anything. And sure Ash has caught things but not enough in my opinion and I'm always going to be bitter about Farfetch'd being a piss poor capture in regards to when it happened and we just haven't got anything yet.

i just have to accept this series is more about Go than Ash, and that Ash will only get an episode when Go gets 4 or 5 snd Ash will only use Pikachu or Lucario and honestly the only hope I have is they decide to evolve Ash's older Pokemon and maybe one more capture.

Unless the series shifts in favor of Ash I don't have high hopes for more than 1-2 captures. Let alone them getting any decent screen time.
 

ShadowForce720

Well-Known Member
While the initial postponement of the Rocket VS Plasma episodes was because of the earthquake, the scrapping of that plotline entirely almost 100% certainly happened because of how incompatible it was with B2W2's plot. Everything they had in mind for their adaptation of the original BW's evil team plot had to be thrown out the window entirely, and that almost definitely included what they had planned for Zekrom.

Kind of makes you wonder how things would have played out in BW if the Rocket vs Plasma episodes had actually aired and they actually got to do what they had originally planned.
 

PsychoLogical

Well-Known Member
Except in Kanto and Unova he already had more than a full team by now.

So then why is it that his team is acting like every other series than the ones he did catch the most?

Look I wanted Ash with a lot of captures, I wanted Ash to be treated fairly in terms of captures in comparison to Go, because I didn't want Go to exist just so Ash wouldn't catch anything. And sure Ash has caught things but not enough in my opinion and I'm always going to be bitter about Farfetch'd being a piss poor capture in regards to when it happened and we just haven't got anything yet.

i just have to accept this series is more about Go than Ash, and that Ash will only get an episode when Go gets 4 or 5 snd Ash will only use Pikachu or Lucario and honestly the only hope I have is they decide to evolve Ash's older Pokemon and maybe one more capture.

Unless the series shifts in favor of Ash I don't have high hopes for more than 1-2 captures. Let alone them getting any decent screen time.
You can't really compare those two with JN in any way since JN has old gen mons being capturable while Unova and Kanto didnt which was the point of my original comment. I stopped caring about screentime a long time ago cause it's already a fact that they don't care about that. And Ash getting less time is expected since there's nothing much to do with him at this point except the PWC. While Go on the other hand is a new character and has bs to work with so its obvious that he'll be getting more for the time being. And Go catching alot is the whole point of his whole boring character so this complaint isn't really justified in any way.
 
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Dephender

Gizakawayusu
Staff member
Moderator
They couldn't just try to do an anime original plot like trying to merge both BW and BW2's plots instead? I would assume that could've been possible.

...that's basically what they DID.
But I assume they figured they'd rather try to come up with a plot that worked instead of dealing with the headache of coming up with a plot that worked while simultaneously trying to pound a bunch of round pegs into square holes when the earthquake had actually given them the opportunity to not actually bring those round pegs into the mix in the first place.

Kind of makes you wonder how things would have played out in BW if the Rocket vs Plasma episodes had actually aired and they actually got to do what they had originally planned.

What they had originally planned definitely did not account for B2W2's timeskip and new iteration of the Plasma Gang, so they'd never had been able to do that anyway.
 

BobbbidyBob

Well-Known Member

Leonhart

Imagineer
Dzentelmen said:
If anyone gets Grookey it's going to be Goh. It could work as an arc for Sobble to grow up. If Goh gets Grookey and he starts using it in battles, Sobble could feel like it's falling behind compared to Cinderace and Grookey which could be used to make it more confident and evolve.

That sounds almost too good to be true, although the fact that Aceburn is Gou's mascot makes me think that this scenario would be doomed before it even happens since I doubt that the writers would have Messon develop well as long as Aceburn's around to get most of the screen-time on that team.
 
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