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Pocket Monsters (2019) Pokémon Speculation Thread

BobbbidyBob

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Leonhart

Imagineer
Dzentelmen said:
If anyone gets Grookey it's going to be Goh. It could work as an arc for Sobble to grow up. If Goh gets Grookey and he starts using it in battles, Sobble could feel like it's falling behind compared to Cinderace and Grookey which could be used to make it more confident and evolve.
That sounds almost too good to be true, although the fact that Aceburn is Gou's mascot makes me think that this scenario would be doomed before it even happens since I doubt that the writers would have Messon develop well as long as Aceburn's around to get most of the screen-time on that team.
 

Dephender

Gizakawayusu
Staff member
Moderator
Didn’t season 2 start on the 17 of November which was the release date of season 1? So already 1 year
There's no such thing as "seasons" outside of whatever the dubbers decide the dub should be split into, and the dub has not split PM2019 into anything yet.

Dub "season" 2 starts whenever the dub says it starts, it's not really any more complicated than that. These "seasons" don't actually exist in the actual show.
 

BobbbidyBob

Well-Known Member
There's no such thing as "seasons" outside of whatever the dubbers decide the dub should be split into, and the dub has not split PM2019 into anything yet.

Dub "season" 2 starts whenever the dub says it starts, it's not really any more complicated than that. These "seasons" don't actually exist in the actual show.
I see. Thanks for the confirmation
 

Spider-Phoenix

#ChespinGang
While the initial postponement of the Rocket VS Plasma episodes was because of the earthquake, the scrapping of that plotline entirely almost 100% certainly happened because of how incompatible it was with B2W2's plot. Everything they had in mind for their adaptation of the original BW's evil team plot had to be thrown out the window entirely, and that almost definitely included what they had planned for Zekrom.
That's what I think as well.

My take: Considering how far in advance they make the episodes, I think that right after they finish the two-parter, they got word on BW2 (with all the changes) and that's why everything post those episodes didn't have continue that plot in some way: the staff had to come back to square one and rethink everything.

People like to blame on OLM and its staff for everything they didn't like on BW but the production staff certainly had to deal with some very convoluted decisions from Game Freak.

GF wanted those games to be a "relaunch" as in a fresh start, to the point that we could only get the new pokémon (initially) which prompted the anime to have to make itself look a fresh start as well. Then, after they planned on how they were going to use TP, GF just changes everything by making a sequel.
 

PsychoLogical

Well-Known Member
That's what I think as well.

My take: Considering how far in advance they make the episodes, I think that right after they finish the two-parter, they got word on BW2 (with all the changes) and that's why everything post those episodes didn't have continue that plot in some way: the staff had to come back to square one and rethink everything.

People like to blame on OLM and its staff for everything they didn't like on BW but the production staff certainly had to deal with some very convoluted decisions from Game Freak.

GF wanted those games to be a "relaunch" as in a fresh start, to the point that we could only get the new pokémon (initially) which prompted the anime to have to make itself look a fresh start as well. Then, after they planned on how they were going to use TP, GF just changes everything by making a sequel.
If any of the sagas ever get a chance of getting a reboot, the BW saga certainly needs to be the one getting it cause dear lord it was downright disgraceful and the biggest waste of opportunity. Could’ve potentially reached DP levels of greatness due to BW’s storyline alone and the beginning certainly has shown that but ofc Mother Nature just had to ruin everything and the BW2 games didn’t help the case either.
 

Red and Blue

Well-Known Member
The only team change in December for Ash I see is Dracovish. It and Suicune need episodes that could be before the new Year
 

PsychoLogical

Well-Known Member
I don’t expect Ash to get a lot of Pokémon, but I would find it as a mistake to not give him some more popular Pokémon like Tyranitar or Absol for example because if you give them to Goh it will just be treated as Golurk and Flygon are and I know a lot of people want to see some more popular Pokémon be utilized in battles more.
I also would see this as a missed opportunity considering the “world tour” theme. Have Ash own more popular and marketable mons from all over and you’ll continue to be rolling in dough soon after. Win-win for fans and win-win for marketers.

:>
 

Leonhart

Imagineer
Master Pikachu 11 said:
I don’t expect Ash to get a lot of Pokémon, but I would find it as a mistake to not give him some more popular Pokémon like Tyranitar or Absol for example because if you give them to Goh it will just be treated as Golurk and Flygon are and I know a lot of people want to see some more popular Pokémon be utilized in battles more.
I disagree with this reasoning, mainly because as long as Lucario's around, it's not as if those other Pokemon's futures under Satoshi's care would look that much brighter than if Gou ended up with them, especially if they'd just end up like Satoshi's Gangar and Kamonegi. Bangiras in particular has appeared so often throughout the series that it isn't really in dire need of more screen-time anyway from my viewpoint, so the fact that it's cited as a species that should be featured more often in the cast itself is questionable to me.
 

ShadowForce720

Well-Known Member
I still think Ash's next capture will be an ice type.
Well looking at the Ice types that Ash and Goh don’t already own these would be the options for Ash to choose from:

Cloyster
Smoochum/Jynx
Articuno
Sneasel/Weavile
Swinub/Piloswine/Mamoswine
Delibird
Spheal/Sealeo/Walrein
Regice
Snover/Abomasnow
Glaceon
Froslass
Vanillite/Vanillish/Vanilluxe
Cubchoo/Beartic
Cryogonal
Bergmite/Avalugg
Crabominable
Alolan Sandshrew/Alolan Sandslash
Alolan Vulpix/Alolan Ninetales
Galarian Mr.Mime/Mr.Rime
Galarian Darumaka/Galarian Darmanitan
Snom/Frosmoth
Eiscue
Arctozolt
Arctovish
Glastrier

Also Calyrex in it’s Ice Rider form and Rotom in it’s Rotom Frost form as well as Castform in it’s Snowy form are all either part or pure Ice types.
 

esquilo09

Well-Known Member
Well looking at the Ice types that Ash and Goh don’t already own these would be the options for Ash to choose from:

Cloyster
Smoochum/Jynx
Articuno
Sneasel/Weavile
Swinub/Piloswine/Mamoswine
Delibird
Spheal/Sealeo/Walrein
Regice
Snover/Abomasnow
Glaceon
Froslass
Vanillite/Vanillish/Vanilluxe
Cubchoo/Beartic
Cryogonal
Bergmite/Avalugg
Crabominable
Alolan Sandshrew/Alolan Sandslash
Alolan Vulpix/Alolan Ninetales
Galarian Mr.Mime/Mr.Rime
Galarian Darumaka/Galarian Darmanitan
Snom/Frosmoth
Eiscue
Arctozolt
Arctovish
Glastrier

Also Calyrex in it’s Ice Rider form and Rotom in it’s Rotom Frost form as well as Castform in it’s Snowy form are all either part or pure Ice types.
Jynx, A-Vulpix line and G-Mr. Mime line won't be caught by Ash for obvious reasons. The only possible ice type captures for Ash are:

Glaceon
Weavile
Abomasnow
G-Darmanitan
Arctozolt
Frosmoth
Eiscue
 

ShadowForce720

Well-Known Member
Jynx, A-Vulpix line and G-Mr. Mime line won't be caught by Ash for obvious reasons. The only possible ice type captures for Ash are:

Glaceon
Weavile
Abomasnow
G-Darmanitan
Arctozolt
Frosmoth
Eiscue
I wouldn’t say those are the only possible Ice types for Ash because most of the other options can work as well.
 

ShadowForce720

Well-Known Member
Like what? Beartic? Cloyster? I doubt it since they're not popular.
Alolan Sandslash, Avalugg, Mamoswine, Vanillish to name a few, Beartic, and Cloyster would also work.

Plus where in a series where Ash’s 1st capture was a Dragonite he caught in episode 10, and then later after he caught Riolu he caught a Galarian Farfetch’d a pure fighting type Pokémon even though he had Riolu.

So I don’t think one can just assuming that just because a Pokémon isn’t as popular as some others that Ash wouldn’t be able to still catch it.

At this point we don’t really know what his next capture is going to be. I mean let’s be realistic not that many people really predicted that Ash’s current team would look like it currently does back when this series first started.
 
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