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Pocket Monsters (2019) Pokémon Speculation Thread

Dragonsoldier77

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But the thing is Ash's matches are designatedly one v one, while Goh's missions seems like everyone on the expedition needs to be more proactive. Its not like satoshi is just sitting in ice while Goh does everything... so he might do something... just support though nothing too serious
It’s still pretty questionable for him to be there imo. Especially when he inadvertently becomes part of goh’s trial.

Is he also part of project mew? If no, then should he even be there in the first place? What point is there in trials and tokens if ash gets whatever benefit there is from project mew just by sticking with goh? What point is there to give tests when someone else can do them? Do they have some kind of shared membership?

Honestly my initial impression is that having ash there feels like it undermines what’s supposed to be ‘goh’s quest’.
 

Decidueye23

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It’s still pretty questionable for him to be there imo. Especially when he inadvertently becomes part of goh’s trial.

Is he also part of project mew? If no, then should he even be there in the first place? What point is there in trials and tokens if ash gets whatever benefit there is from project mew just by sticking with goh? What point is there to give tests when someone else can do them? Do they have some kind of shared membership?

Honestly my initial impression is that having ash there feels like it undermines what’s supposed to be ‘goh’s quest’.
Maybe Ash is a member too idk... i feel like ep71 will give us good impression of how Project mew will work overall
 

Morax

Okama way
It’s still pretty questionable for him to be there imo. Especially when he inadvertently becomes part of goh’s trial.

Is he also part of project mew? If no, then should he even be there in the first place? What point is there in trials and tokens if ash gets whatever benefit there is from project mew just by sticking with goh? What point is there to give tests when someone else can do them? Do they have some kind of shared membership?

Honestly my initial impression is that having ash there feels like it undermines what’s supposed to be ‘goh’s quest’.
Honestly, ash is a burden on his companions. They don't get enough development because he's always in the spotlight.
 

Spider-Phoenix

#ChespinGang
No need to make a fuss about it: Ash is there helping out a friend in need. Not much different than his past companions supporting him in the badge quest, be it for spare battles, giving advice, inspiring or cheering for him during the actual matches
 

Decidueye23

Well-Known Member
No need to make a fuss about it: Ash is there helping out a friend in need. Not much different than his past companions supporting him in the badge quest, be it for spare battles, giving advice, inspiring or cheering for him during the actual matches
Idk if it works that way. The thing is Ash's goals or his comapnions goals so far have alwyas been ina confined setting wherein they had to face an opponent themselves. I dony know if we'll get an episode that delibrately nakes Ash sitjust cheering on Goh while they are in the wild, like getting lost in a blizzard. Heck even gary didnt stop infernape from abtrling moltres.
 

Dragonsoldier77

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No need to make a fuss about it: Ash is there helping out a friend in need. Not much different than his past companions supporting him in the badge quest, be it for spare battles, giving advice, inspiring or cheering for him during the actual matches
Those are all indirect and support stuff though. None of his friends actually directly help with the main part of it, nor does ash for his friends. It’s not like brock would take over fighting when one of ash’s pokemon go down during gym battles. If he fails he fails.

The thing is goh’s ‘activity’ is much larger in scale. His involve actually tracking and exploring, and you don’t expect ash just too help goh prepare and then go along just to cheer him on when he’s in a potentially dangerous situation. Unless tsurugi’s remarks to goh really was goh nearly dying in a blizzard and ash going ‘tough luck man, can’t help you here’.

And for goh, it downplay his achievements if ash involves himself too much in it as well. Like if ash weakens the ninetails before goh catches, Though i don’t think he’d do that one.
 
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ShadowForce720

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And yet Goh stated he wouldn't do the same for Ash
He said wasn’t going to specifically be Ash’s rival to constantly push Ash like Kiawe did.

The whole point that Goh was basically making was that he wasn’t going to go out of his way to be Ash’s rival. It was not that he wouldn’t cheer for Ash or there wouldn’t be cases were they could support each other.

For instance Goh would not want Ash to go out of his way and catch Pokémon specifically to give to him with Ash getting nothing in return.

Ash being with Goh when the latter goes on his mission is no different then when Goh cheers on Ash or agrees to spar with him.
 

MartínK

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The idea is that Goh do the trials by himself without any help but seeing how he is terrible at outside activities like climbing, etc i really doubt that he will be able to do it alone
 

Dragonsoldier77

Well-Known Member
For instance Goh would not want Ash to go out of his way and catch Pokémon specifically to give to him with Ash getting nothing in return.

Ash being with Goh when the latter goes on his mission is no different then when Goh cheers on Ash or agrees to spar with him.
But going out of his way to potentially dangerous places for nothing in return is fine?

Coming along to a potentially dangerous expedition is definitely not the same as sparring or traveling to a safe place where goh does his own stuff anyways. The equivalent would be ash helping goh train his survival skills and helping him get the needed equipment ready. Going along and setting their camp for him or more would cross over to direct helping and not indirect help anymore.
 

DigitalTrainer

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He said wasn’t going to specifically be Ash’s rival to constantly push Ash like Kiawe did.

The whole point that Goh was basically making was that he wasn’t going to go out of his way to be Ash’s rival. It was not that he wouldn’t cheer for Ash or there wouldn’t be cases were they could support each other.

For instance Goh would not want Ash to go out of his way and catch Pokémon specifically to give to him with Ash getting nothing in return.

Ash being with Goh when the latter goes on his mission is no different then when Goh cheers on Ash or agrees to spar with him.

The idea is that Goh do the trials by himself without any help but seeing how he is terrible at outside activities like climbing, etc i really doubt that he will be able to do it alone

Yeah I guess I was being negative with last comment, so that's my bad. I'm just really not all that excited for project Mew, plus I hate how it feels like kinda just drops everything he's doing for Goh.
 

nickdt

Well-Known Member
People, even if we get anime related Piplup merch (Which we have gotten since the start of journeys), it doesn't really need to point towards something, because here is the thing: Due to BDSP, Project Piplup is a thing, so they are gonna market the thing too death, alongside the 2 franchise mascots Pikachu and Eevee, just like they did with Eevee when Project Eevee was a thing.

Now, Lana did get an Eevee to correlate with Lets Go, so Dawn is most likely gonna come with Piplup to promote BDSP, however, i wouldn't expect a major role for Piplup until at least late October/Early November.
 
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