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Pocket Monsters (2019) Speculation Thread

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DuquÊ?

Too lazy to pick a pic
I agree with Kubfu and Toxtricity. But kommo-o and passimian are wayyyyy too many fighting types
Quite. Enough of fighting and dragon types. Even kubfu.

Which i seriously doubt, else all his off-screen progress is pointless.
Well, unless Journeys' ending is in 2023, so, Ash could rank down against someone crazy strong, like, let's say, Lance.

Eiscue for Ash?
So long as Empoleon still happens I guess. I'd rather have Empoleon
Personally, I'd like G-darmanitan as his next ice type, but, I don't want another A-sandshrew fake hope.

Also, we never know, they gave him popular critters from previous gens, sirfetch'd and...dracovish, who is popular in game, despite be an ugly piece of work. Penguin wise, I'd also take empoleon any day. I think I just want Ash get something who doesn't be a walking fridge ornament.
 
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Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
Ash should have captured Passiman in SM64 already.
Wouldn't have changed much in the long term. They really wanted to drop all heavy marketable pokemon on Ash. Starters, USUM-only knew forms/UltraBeasts and of course Melmetal..

If you look back, Passimian was never really an option (definitely would if SM was more DP/XY'ish). If Ash was going to get a Fighting-type, it probably would've been Hakamo-o into Kommo-o.
 

Dynamic_Fusion

HIKARI HYPE
If Ash was going to get a Fighting-type, it probably would've been Hakamo-o into Kommo-o.
Certainly Kommo-o, as many people including me thought it was an Ash-Pokemon. Not because its fighting type but because its a dragon type. Mainly because the Previous Series gave Ash Two Dragon Types so many people thought the Dragon-Extravaganza would continue (it eventually did in PM2019 as he caught two dragon types here as well).
 

PsychoLogical

Black and White, Yin and Yang, Light and Dark.
To this day, I’m still not amused that SM decided to only have 4 actual captures and not replace Naganadel after it was released after doing practically nothing before it returned for a short while again. Kommo-o would’ve been a nice replacement if they bothered. Then again prob not since they prob weren’t interested in constantly drawing something that complex due to its design.
 

Dynamic_Fusion

HIKARI HYPE
To this day, I’m still not amused that SM decided to only have 4 actual captures and not replace Naganadel after it was released after doing practically nothing before it returned for a short while again. Kommo-o would’ve been a nice replacement if they bothered. Then again prob not since they prob weren’t interested in constantly drawing something that complex due to its design.
Heck not just Kommo-o, just Ash capturing a Jangmo-o and not evolving it like Gible would have been fine with me.
 

TomRC121991

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Bulbasaur: Vine Whip, Solar Beam, Venoshock, Synthesis.
Charizard Flamethrower, Dragon Tail, Fire Blast, Fire Punch.
Squirtle: Water Gun, Skull Bash, Hydro Pump, Waterfall.
Kingler: Crabhammer, Hyper Beam, Liquidation, Metal Claw.
Primeape: Trash, Seismic Toss, Cross Chop, Stomping Tantrum, Rock Tomb.
Muk: Sludge Bomb, Gunk Shot, Venom Drench, Poison Jab
Tauros: Take Down, Horn Attack, Smart Strike, Giga Impact.
Snorlax: Body Slam, Hyper Beam, Ice Punch, Metronome.
Heracross: Megahorn, Sleep Talk, Hyper Beam, Pin Missile.
Bayleaf: Vine Whip, Body Slam, Magical Leaf, Solar Beam
Quilava: (When it's evolves in Typlosion) Flamethrower, Flame Wheel, Eurption, Burn Up.
Totodile: (When it's evolves in Croconaw & Feraligatr) Water Gun, Ice Fang, Hydro Cannon, Hydro Pump
Noctowl: Sky Attack, Air Slash, Extrasensory, Moonblast.
Donphan: Rollout, Take Down, Hyper Beam, Gyro Ball
Swellow: Aerial Ace, Double Team, Brave Bird, Steel Wing.
Sceptile: Bullet Seed, Leaf Blade, Leaf Storm, Dual Chop.
Corphish: (When it's evolves in Crawdaunt) Bubble Beam, Crabhammer, Razor Shell, Dark Pulse.
Torkoal: Flamethrower, Iron Defense, Heat Wave, Shell Smash.
Glalie Double Team, Ice Beam, Freeze Dry, Frost Breath.
Staraptor Aerial Ace, Brave Bird, Close Combat, Hyper Beam.
Torterra: Synthesis, Energy Ball, Leaf Storm, Wood Hammer.
Infernape: Never learned.
Buizel Aqua Jet, Ice Punch, Aqua Tail, Scald.
Gliscor: X-Scissor, Fire Fang, Giga Impact, Throat Chop.
Gible: (When it's evolves into Gabite & Garchomp) Dig, Draco Meteor, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Rush.
Unfezant: Gust, Air Cutter, Aerial Ace, U-turn
Oshawott Razor Shell, Aqua Jet, Hydro Pump, Ice Beam.
Pignite: (When it's evolves into Emboar) Flamethrower, Flame Charge, Fire Pledge, Heat Crush.
Snivy: (When it's evolves into Servine & Serperior) Attract, Leaf Blade, Leaf Storm, Giga Drain.
Scraggy: (When it's evolves into Scrafty) High Jump Kick, Focus Blast, Focus Punch, Crunch.
Leavanny: Razor Leaf, Energy Ball, X-Scissor, Fell Stinger.
Palpitoad: (When it's evolves into Seismitoad) Mud Shot, Hydro Pump, Sludge Wave, Drain Punch.
Boldore: (When it's evolves into Gigalith) Sandstorm, Flash Cannon, Rock Blast, Power Gem.
Krookodile: Dig, Stone Edge, Dragon Claw, Power Trip.
Talonflame: Steel Wing, Flame Charge, Brave Bird, Flamethrower.
Hawlucha: Flying Press, High Jump Kick, X-Scissor, Iron Head.
Noivern: Acrobatics, Boomburst, Dragon Claw Draco Meteor.
Rowlet: Never learned.
Lycanroc: Never learned.
Incineroar: Fire Fang, Revenge, Fire Blast, Darkest Lariat
Melmetal: Flash Cannon, Double Iron Bash Thunder Punch, Hyper Beam.
 

charinija

Pokemon Master
Agreed but Goh should get Passimian while Ash should get Kommo-o
Kommo-o fighting type. If Ash catches Kubfu plus Kommo , Ash will have 4 fighting types with Lucario Farfetch in his hand.

Even if Infernape is permanent, there will be 5 fighting types.

I think Ash is less likely to catch Kommo-o than Mew. Lol

so I think almost impossible

Oh but Ash I think he can catch Tyranitar or Metagross in the pseudo legends.

But what I really want to Ash's catch is Dragapult.
 

ShadowForce720

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So is it also possible for Ash to get Pansage and Beautifly since Goh didn't catch them
It’s possible yes, but considering the amount of Pokémon available for them to choose from, I think other Pokémon will wind up taking priority over them.


So will Goh showcase all 3 of the Starters G-Max forms?
Probably, although I do wonder if they are waiting for all 3 of Goh’s Galar Starters to be fully evolved before they finally start showing off their Gigantamaxes.
 

Decidueye23

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I doubt they will make it a point to show all of them G-Maxing. Not like the anime showed all megas or z moves. Besides G-Max itself is so limited in the series. Unless they do an episode where literally every pokemon G maxes i dont see if they make all the starters G-Max
 

Spider-Phoenix

#ChespinGang
If we're having another Alola episode, I hope (in vain) they remember Ash's connection with passimian, but, Go will probably catch it. Kommo-O, I can easily see as Bea's new mon.
Kind sad Iris didn't get Kommo-o. Even if it was just for a single shot footage, I'd love knowing she got one as I think it really fits her.
 

ShadowForce720

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I doubt they will make it a point to show all of them G-Maxing. Not like the anime showed all megas or z moves. Besides G-Max itself is so limited in the series. Unless they do an episode where literally every pokemon G maxes i dont see if they make all the starters G-Max
Difference is there wasn’t any Pokémon on the main cast in X&Y that could Mega Evolve. If all 3 of Goh’s Galar starters fully evolve then there isn’t really any reason why he can’t show off their Gigantamaxs as well.

Also the reason why we didn’t see all the Mega Evolutions and Z-Moves in their respective series was because in the case of Mega Evolution there wasn’t any Pokémon on the main cast that could Mega Evolve. As for Z-moves considering that for the most part they limited characters that weren’t Ash to just 1 Z-Crystal while some exceptions had 3 or even 4.

On top of that in some cases the required Pokémon wasn’t on the main cast, wasn’t in the right stage, evolved to late, or didn’t know the required move.

I’m not saying that they have to show all the Gigantamax forms, however I fail to see how it’s suddenly a stretch to suggest a main character showing off all 3 Gigantamax Galar starters off, if said main character has all 3 of them fully evolved with them being a part of the main cast and even has the Dynamax Band.
 

Ignition

We are so back Zygardebros
That's fair. I just wish he had more of a chance to showcase more of his complexities hinted by the league cards in the narrative then the instances you mention. Ig it's just part of my frustration with how lackluster the plot of SwSh was. I do think though that Sonia offering sympathy to Hop wasn't enough to give justice to the alluded plotline of Sonia and Leon, unlike the anime which I think landed it much better. Like him constantly putting others and the safety of the region first is another thing the anime did better imo by actually letting us see him defeating dynamax mons, reassuring the citizens of galar, and then teaming up with Ash to take the others. In the games when he negotiates with Rose he still seems more focused on just having his champion match rather than thinking what roses motivations are unlike in the anime where he suspects him and actually works undercover to find out what's going on. With the amount of screentime Leon got in the games I wish he had more chances to be multi dimensional. He is tbh my fav champion because of how sportlike competitive he is and he does take his role seriously, but as a character, I like Cynthia and the others more and find him to be lacking. I feel like there was a lot of wasted potential with him
Completely fair! I personally found Hop and Leon to be the only major characters that bring out enjoyable parts of SwSh’s plot besides Piers & Raihan so I completely understand being frustrated with it. I like to see it as the anime expanding on what the games were conveying. I think a big part of the anime’s way of showing his character is that he actually lets Ash do more than the MC but still feels like a responsible adult like with investigating Rose and fighting Eternatus. I personally prefer the games to how they express his impact on the region but like how the anime actively shows it. Twilight Wings is almost a perfect balance of the two. He’s personally my 5th favorite Champion tier character after Cynthia, Kukui, Mustard, and Peony (SwSh really delivered with its 3 Champions lol). Hopefully the anime continues to delve more into his character
 
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