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Pocket Monsters (2019) Speculation Thread

KirliaToon50

More power to Shinobu.
I don't think Gou will leave the show since the game his character refers to is still very popular.
Besides, Koharu isn't in the main cast
I already changed my mind.
I Liked the PWC idea but I Wonder if Chloe becomes Main character Permanently (I know that is not gonna happen since she's basically dropping the school idea altogether)

Edit: Sorry @DuskAstral, I Agree with Psychological... I don't think Goh will stay because his first mon and starter being a Gen 8 obviously.
 

PsychoLogical

Black and White, Yin and Yang, Light and Dark.
I don't think Gou will leave the show since the game his character refers to is still very popular.
Besides, Koharu isn't in the main cast
It should've been obvious that Go's not meant to stay around for more than one saga. His first mon and starter being a Gen 8 mon should've been painful and dead giveaway. The excuse of "Pokemon GO still being popular" and/or he can swap out his starter or whatever gibberish relating to that or whatever is a poor argument.
 

Satomine Night

The Power of Z!
It should've been obvious that Go's not meant to stay around for more than one saga. His first mon and starter being a Gen 8 mon should've been painful and dead giveaway.
Actually, the nature of Pokémon Journeys allows for Goh to stay around for more than one saga. True, his first Pokémon was a Gen VIII one, and he has caught all of the Galar starters, but in every series, the current gen's starters end up on the main cast. Goh catching all of the Galar starters is not only in line with his goal of catching every Pokémon, but also leaves more room on Ash's team for the writers to appease to the fanbase other Pokémon.

Unless 1) Goh decides to quit being Director Cerise's research fellow in order to focus all of his attention on Project Mew and/or 2) Ash decides to quit being a research fellow in order to pursue something else or leave Kanto for another region, then there really isn't reason for Goh not to stick around for another saga.
 

KirliaToon50

More power to Shinobu.
Actually, the nature of Pokémon Journeys allows for Goh to stay around for more than one saga. True, his first Pokémon was a Gen VIII one, and he has caught all of the Galar starters, but in every series, the current gen's starters end up on the main cast. Goh catching all of the Galar starters is not only in line with his goal of catching every Pokémon, but also leaves more room on Ash's team for the writers to appease to the fanbase other Pokémon.

Unless 1) Goh decides to quit being Director Cerise's research fellow in order to focus all of his attention on Project Mew and/or 2) Ash decides to quit being a research fellow in order to pursue something else or leave Kanto for another region, then there really isn't reason for Goh not to stick around for another saga.
Fair Enough but what about Chloe becoming a main character if She becomes a trainer by graduating from School altogether, The Writers needs to get it right together and let Chloe become a Main Character but whatever.

I know that's not gonna happen because Chloe is basically a Student in her school.
 

AxelJade

Well-Known Member
Honestly, unless the anime really surprised me, and I mean really surprises me, I think the structure of Goh's story is fairly locked in.

I see Goh eventually getting his hands on a Master Ball, possibly as a gift from Oak or Sakuragi, for all that his captures have contributed to Pokémon research. Then, after Ash has his big battle with Leon, Goh will meet with Mew. Naturally, Mew is not the kind of Pokémon Goh can just catch casually, so at that point, it's battle time.

How will the battle play out? Depends. If Goh meets Mew while just out there in the wild, maybe in the same place he saw Mew as a kid, Goh will use whatever six Pokémon you could call his "best" or "signature" team at that point, whatever it might be. If Mew decides to be more direct and meet Goh in the lab, Goh could have all of his Pokémon at his disposal at once. Either way, it'll be the culmination of Goh's character. All of his growth, all of his bonds, all of the lessons. The Trainers he's met, the Pokémon he's caught, everything Ash has taught him. It's all built up to this battle.

But Goh will not catch Mew. Even if Goh uses the Master Ball, Mew will destroy it with an attack. But despite failing to catch Mew, Goh will see that the bond of friendship he's forged with Mew through their battle alone is more powerful than any bond they could have forged through a capture. He's met Mew, battled Mew, and been acknowledged as Mew's friend. That's all he needs. And if there are any Pokémon Goh hasn't caught yet, let that pull double duty as a justification for why he doesn't catch the rest.

Ash has whatever experience is going to send him to the Gen 9 region. Maybe Paul is back with a Gen 9 Pokémon and kicks Ash's butt in a battle with it like Gary and Electivire did so long ago now. Goh is going to be contacted by his friend, Tokio. Being reminded that Tokio is looking for Celebi, the Johto boy has a lead on Celebi's location, and would like Goh to come to Johto to help him pursue it. Goh agrees to go to Johto for this reason. Koharu asks to go with Goh as well, having completed her character arc of developing from "normal girl that has no clue of her future" to "Pokémon girl that definitely knows her path" during this as well.

After a heartfelt and maybe tearful goodbye, this fellowship is broken as the characters go their separate ways.

I'm sorry, but Goh being a stand-in for new Pokémon GO players doesn't change anything. Trading Goh out isn't as big of a deal as changing Ash out would be. It would be like rotating out the PokéGirls over the years. Keep one tether for old fans with Ash, but trade out everyone else for the new fans. And in Japan, fans aren't exactly happy with Goh's character at all, so that's all the more reason to believe that Goh's time in the anime is limited.
 

Almighty Zard

He has returned.
I don't think Ash will win the PWC.

Even if he doesn't he could just retry it.

considering what they've done already sending him back after trinkets like gym badges would be regression of him at this point, even worse than what BW did.
I think he will defeat Leon, but Leon will be defeated by the gen 9 champion before he can face Ash. Yes, this eliminates Leon as a threat, but it also makes the gen 9 champion the main threat and sets him up (Since Leon will pretty much be old news by the time gen 9 rolls around).

having someone else take leon down before Ash would be a cop out, since it lessens the importance of the 2 fighting each other.
 

DigitalTrainer

Worried about everything
When is end of PM2019, Ash will leave Goh & Chloe and catch some more Pokémon including old Gen 1-8 and Gen 9 on his own, in order to competed captured and the end of Pokémon series.
Ash is not gonna catch'em all. He could catch another handful of Pokemon from those regions, but not all of them. He's definitely not getting any Uber Legendaries, except maybe Zacian and Mewtwo
 
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SerGoldenhandtheJust

Deluded Dreamer
I don't get how Cinderace being Goh's means without a doubt he won't be staying further when with how Cinderace story has been setup they could easily have Goh release him to take care of some mons or something and begin the next series anew with a gen 9 Mon
I think the major concrete evidence is that they seem to have set up an endgame for him with Sonia and that project mew is one week
But using the Cinderace reason is lame as hell and a weak reasoning to be so close minded that everyone who's saying he might stay are wrong
 

Almighty Zard

He has returned.
Ash is not gonna catch'em all. He could catch another handful of Pokemon from those regions, but not all of them. He definitely getting any Uber Legendaries, except maybe Zacian and Mewtwo

IF we're talking higher tier legendaries, I think Ho-oh and Solgaleo (nebby) have better chances than mewtwo, Zacian i can agree with.
 

Megapixel

Well-Known Member
I just came up with an interesting idea, that after ash beats lionel (if he does), he goes looking for the legendary/singular to fight them, now not out of duty but as a challenge (to say he caught them is too much ) but it would be interesting to see ash fight with lugia, ho-oh and others as a kind of fairly complete time challenge
 

nuzamaki90

Well-Known Member
Honestly? I find it kinda unbelievable Satoshi will win the PWC with his current team. Not saying that his current pokemon arent strong, but without his reserves it feels less accomplished. If he for example would beat Paul without Infernape or any reserves, it would feel wrong...
Maybe if the focus on the PWC or just more battles in general is put on turbo from here going forward, but as of right now his team is too underdeveloped. They don’t interact with each other, their personalities are all nice but rarely ever get to show it. And in terms of battles they are all consistently strong but we don’t get to see them in action enough.

Can you believe people used to think Ash having a Lucario would somehow take away screen time from the rest of his Pokémon. Boy did the writers completely shut that idea down lol
 

Master Pikachu 11

Well-Known Member
I don't think Ash will win the PWC.

I think he will defeat Leon, but Leon will be defeated by the gen 9 champion before he can face Ash. Yes, this eliminates Leon as a threat, but it also makes the gen 9 champion the main threat and sets him up (Since Leon will pretty much be old news by the time gen 9 rolls around).
This will definitely not happen, the goal for Ash this series is to battle and defeat Leon, to have Leon get defeated by the Gen 9 champion would just undo every progress that was made in this series and pretty much make Ash’s goal even more pointless.
Actually, the nature of Pokémon Journeys allows for Goh to stay around for more than one saga. True, his first Pokémon was a Gen VIII one, and he has caught all of the Galar starters, but in every series, the current gen's starters end up on the main cast. Goh catching all of the Galar starters is not only in line with his goal of catching every Pokémon, but also leaves more room on Ash's team for the writers to appease to the fanbase other Pokémon.

Unless 1) Goh decides to quit being Director Cerise's research fellow in order to focus all of his attention on Project Mew and/or 2) Ash decides to quit being a research fellow in order to pursue something else or leave Kanto for another region, then there really isn't reason for Goh not to stick around for another saga.
Right now you are basing on the assumption that they should just add another region to the current series. The problem is despite Goh’s goal of catching all Pokémon, to suggest that he should just leave his Gen 8 starters at the lab and use the Gen 9 starters would not be right. Cinderrace is the Pikachu of Goh’s team. It is his go to Pokémon whenever he needs to battle or catch Pokémon when his throwing poke balls don’t work. It would be like May and Dawn leaving Blaziken and Piplup at their home with their parents and then using another Gen starter in their place when performing in contests. That just would not work, nor feel right for someone like Goh to do, If Goh had Eevee as his stater instead of the bunny then yeah he could potentially stick around past this series, but that is not the case. I still expect the resolution of Goh and Mew to be settled by the end of series and to pursue being a Pokémon Professor as his new goal, I also expect. Ash to move on from being a research fellow and do something else.
 

Ignition

Sinnoh Boyfriends
I don’t think Cinderace is a sign against Goh staying (look at Brock leaving his Onix after OS) but I do think that they would’ve given him Eevee as a starter to fully sell the idea that he’s going to be an equal mainstay for the anime as it has become a mascot on Pikachu’s level and the possibilities of there being 10 other Eeveelutions could keep him around for a long time. I’m waiting for Project Mew to develop to have a “full” opinion on his future
 

Master Pikachu 11

Well-Known Member
I don’t think Cinderace is a sign against Goh staying (look at Brock leaving his Onix after OS) but I do think that they would’ve given him Eevee as a starter to fully sell the idea that he’s going to be an equal mainstay for the anime as it has become a mascot on Pikachu’s level and the possibilities of there being 10 other Eeveelutions could keep him around for a long time. I’m waiting for Project Mew to develop to have a “full” opinion on his future
Cinderrace is a starter Pokémon it gets different treatment compared to non starter Pokémon like Onix.
 

Ignition

Sinnoh Boyfriends
Cinderrace is a starter Pokémon it gets different treatment compared to non starter Pokémon like Onix.
That’s not the point. Cinderace being a starter only matters for now where it’s at the apex of its popularity. In a hypothetical situation where Go is going to Gen 9’s series/region, he isn’t obligated to keep it or it could be in a situation like Ash’s Kanto starters in Johto where they stayed until they were phased out for other Pokémon. Being a starter doesn’t guarantee you get better treatment either otherwise Charizard & Greninja would’ve been back. Getting different treatment as a starter doesn’t save you from being replaced by the next set of new Pokémon .
 

DuskAstral

Well-Known Member
This will definitely not happen, the goal for Ash this series is to battle and defeat Leon, to have Leon get defeated by the Gen 9 champion would just undo every progress that was made in this series and pretty much make Ash’s goal even more pointless.
And I think it can happen. Satoshi is not the only one who wants to beat the World Champion, so the possibility of someone getting ahead of him exists.
 

Spider-Phoenix

#ChespinGang
I don't get how Cinderace being Goh's means without a doubt he won't be staying further when with how Cinderace story has been setup they could easily have Goh release him to take care of some mons or something and begin the next series anew with a gen 9 Mon
I think the major concrete evidence is that they seem to have set up an endgame for him with Sonia and that project mew is one week
But using the Cinderace reason is lame as hell and a weak reasoning to be so close minded that everyone who's saying he might stay are wrong
Don't even need that since the Raboot farewell fake out episode kind of showed he wants to be with Goh.

We are talking about the bunny who went a long way just to reach Goh and become his pokémon and then stick with him even after the initial refusal.

The current setup leads me to believe that if, for some reason, Goh needs to be send off to gen9 region with Ash and not be allowed to use his previous critters, they'll just have Cinderace become the Bulbasaur of Cerize lab. We get a believable way of having him not be around Goh and double down on the whole gimmick of Ash and Goh mirroring each other.
 
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