Pocket Monsters (2023) Speculation Thread

[Guy100]

Looking forward to the newer episodes, though the sudden reveal of some of the paradox pokemon, especially Gouging Fire, feels lackluster to me.

With that said, I'm still amazed at how the anime continues to depict the three children as a regular "get-along gang" ;No bickering, no fighting or clash of personas. The kids just work together and agree on mostly everything...its quite interesting.

Aside from the Paldea academy students, in which the RVT children barely interacted with, I hope more traveling (roaming) kid trainers are introduced in the horizon story that help to further develop Liko and Roy's independence as pokemon trainers, such as catching more pokemon.

 

[DuskAstral]

I hope that the theory that Pokémon Lucius is Gouging Fire turns out to be wrong. It seems too random, and besides, Paradox Mons appeared well after Lucius.
This Pokémon may still be Entei, just different from the one we saw.

 

[Articfoxgamez]

Paradox Mons appeared well after Lucius.

Lucius was only about 100 years ago, Heaths team predates that and we know they also saw paradox Pokemon.

 

[MunchMunch]

I hope that the theory that Pokémon Lucius is Gouging Fire turns out to be wrong. It seems too random, and besides, Paradox Mons appeared well after Lucius.
This Pokémon may still be Entei, just different from the one we saw.

Paradox Pokemon and Heaths expedition took place years years ago. Lucius “died” 100 years ago

 

[DuskAstral]

Paradox Pokemon and Heaths expedition took place years years ago. Lucius died 100 years ago

I have a feeling that during Heath's expedition, the Paradox Mons did not leave the zone.
I also want to remind you that Lucius is still alive.

 

[Kazuniya]

Speaking of which, do the games ever explain the existence of Paradox Pokemon 200 years ago? Supposedly they have been brought over by the time machine built by the professor in present day, but also they were witnessed by Heath 200 years before present day? Did Sada/Turo send them over to the past or something via time machine, so Heath was able to witness them? Or did Terapagos do something to make them exist?

I suppose the anime can just ignore that, but I'm a bit confused.

Lucius catching Paradox Entei 100 years ago doesn't contradict anything since Paradox Pokemon were witnessed 200 years ago, but I'm still confused as how they existed back then when the game claims the time machine brought them to Area Zero.

 

[Dephender]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1870272982519882190

In the Pokédoko episode airing Sunday December 22nd, the Pokédoko Volt Tacklers will be going to meet Pokénds in Okayama! They'll also battle Hanako alongside Anna Murashige! Check it out, okay?

 

[Decidueye23]

Speaking of which, do the games ever explain the existence of Paradox Pokemon 200 years ago? Supposedly they have been brought over by the time machine built by the professor in present day, but also they were witnessed by Heath 200 years before present day? Did Sada/Turo send them over to the past or something via time machine, so Heath was able to witness them? Or did Terapagos do something to make them exist?

I suppose the anime can just ignore that, but I'm a bit confused.

Lucius catching Paradox Entei 100 years ago doesn't contradict anything since Paradox Pokemon were witnessed 200 years ago, but I'm still confused as how they existed back then when the game claims the time machine brought them to Area Zero.

The games heavily hint that the paradox pokemon are actually from different timelines. Somehow related to terapgos. So they are kind of variants like in tbe MCU

 

[MunchMunch]

Speaking of which, do the games ever explain the existence of Paradox Pokemon 200 years ago? Supposedly they have been brought over by the time machine built by the professor in present day, but also they were witnessed by Heath 200 years before present day? Did Sada/Turo send them over to the past or something via time machine, so Heath was able to witness them? Or did Terapagos do something to make them exist?

I suppose the anime can just ignore that, but I'm a bit confused.

Lucius catching Paradox Entei 100 years ago doesn't contradict anything since Paradox Pokemon were witnessed 200 years ago, but I'm still confused as how they existed back then when the game claims the time machine brought them to Area Zero.

The games also kind of imply that it wasn’t really a Time Machine but that it was Terapagos that brought them there. It’s possibly that they just always lived in Area Zero. The Though the anime seems less strict about Area Zero then the games do tbh.

 

[Guy100]

So now that all three johto legendary beasts have been introduced in the new story arc, I'm curious if this will be the last we see of them, if there purpose was to showcase that the "Johto Entei" was not one of the six legendary heroes.

I still have doubts about Gouging Fire being one of the six heroes considering Entei's reputation (lore) of being a pokemon that roams around the world and there being more than one of Entei species existing in the pokemon world, since they are said to be born from volcanoes.

Considering Gouging Fire's lore, its said to be a pokemon regenerated from a fossil and does not seem to be a pokemon that roams around the world as much, since there are little to no sightings of it being seen. Its reputation just doesn't seem to meet the description of Lucius's Entei.

I hope we get a plot twist of Entei vs Gouging Fire.

 

[lolipiece]

More Horizons-themed cards for China! We’ll probably get them later, just like with the previous set.

Spoiler

 

[MunchMunch]

So now that all three johto legendary beasts have been introduced in the new story arc, I'm curious if this will be the last we see of them, if there purpose was to showcase that the "Johto Entei" was not one of the six legendary heroes.

I still have doubts about Gouging Fire being one of the six heroes considering Entei's reputation (lore) of being a pokemon that roams around the world and there being more than one of Entei species existing in the pokemon world, since they are said to be born from volcanoes.

Considering Gouging Fire's lore, its said to be a pokemon regenerated from a fossil and does not seem to be a pokemon that roams around the world as much, since there are little to no sightings of it being seen. Its reputation just doesn't seem to meet the description of Lucius's Entei.

I hope we get a plot twist of Entei vs Gouging Fire.

It’s likely cause the anime is going with the logic that no one knows the name “Gouging Fire” they just all call it Entei. If you where to see a Paradox pokemon irl you would be more likely to cal it by Entei as opposed to Gouging Fire.

 

[Guy100]

It’s likely cause the anime is going with the logic that no one knows the name “Gouging Fire” they just all call it Entei. If you where to see a Paradox pokemon irl you would be more likely to cal it by Entei as opposed to Gouging Fire.

That logic's fair. Interesting enough, from rewatching ep 75 of Lucius backstory, the scenery of where he met Entei seemed similar to the visual environment of Area Zero, which is shown in the new promo.

I guess when Rystal shared her story of lucius adventures with the RVT, RVT's perception of the Entei Rystal mentions was imagined as the species of Entei that are found in the Johto region.

Regardless of the reveal, it seems the RVT may be collecting (aquiring) Entei fairly soon, perhaps around episode 81 or 82, prior to their showdown with Rayquaza.

 

[wellwellwells]

After seeing Friday’s episode, Gouging Fire being Lucius’ Entei would be a massive plot hole. One could say that stories might have referee to Entei because they were similar, and that the flashbacks were in the kids imagination so they picture it as a regular Entei, but that still wouldn’t explain why Terapagos didn’t realize immediately that Entei was not the Pokemon they were looking for.

 

[Articfoxgamez]

If you want a random defenintly not intended anwser, Pokemon evolve. Terapagos doesn't seem the type to know that Entei doesn't.

 

[MunchMunch]

After seeing Friday’s episode, Gouging Fire being Lucius’ Entei would be a massive plot hole. One could say that stories might have referee to Entei because they were similar, and that the flashbacks were in the kids imagination so they picture it as a regular Entei, but that still wouldn’t explain why Terapagos didn’t realize immediately that Entei was not the Pokemon they were looking for.

If you look at Terapagos reactions it didn’t really react to it the same it did to the other hero pokemon. The whole thing was awkward. When Terapagos sees the other hero pokemon it goes crazy.

It’s not a plot hole. Horizons uses Terapagos reactions as a plot device.

 

[lolipiece]

After seeing Friday’s episode, Gouging Fire being Lucius’ Entei would be a massive plot hole. One could say that stories might have referee to Entei because they were similar, and that the flashbacks were in the kids imagination so they picture it as a regular Entei, but that still wouldn’t explain why Terapagos didn’t realize immediately that Entei was not the Pokemon they were looking for.

Each time one of the Six Heroes resonates with Terapagos, it regains some of its lost power and memories.

If it doesn’t remember what Entei looks like, it’s simply because that section of its memories are fuzzy.

 

[Blood Red]

Speaking of which, do the games ever explain the existence of Paradox Pokemon 200 years ago? Supposedly they have been brought over by the time machine built by the professor in present day, but also they were witnessed by Heath 200 years before present day? Did Sada/Turo send them over to the past or something via time machine, so Heath was able to witness them? Or did Terapagos do something to make them exist?

I suppose the anime can just ignore that, but I'm a bit confused.

Lucius catching Paradox Entei 100 years ago doesn't contradict anything since Paradox Pokemon were witnessed 200 years ago, but I'm still confused as how they existed back then when the game claims the time machine brought them to Area Zero.

The games never explained the existence of Paradox Pokémon, or why they existed in Heath’s time. Considering they’re supposed to be…well, paradoxes, that makes sense.

 

[Guy100]

Well, so far it seems that getting to Rakua, may follow in similarity with Far Away island. Since Terapogas's memory seems to resonate as the catalyst to guiding the RVT's progress to reaching the mysterious area (Rakua), I guess once all six heroes are united, Terapogas will be able to remember/reveal the possible coordinates to Rakua Island.

If this is correct, this would possibly explain why Gibeon wanted the legendary turtle since the start of the series. I'm just curious if this arc will actually wrap up the Rakua plot, or will getting to Rakua be the next arc. The latter seems likely.

 

[lolipiece]

We’re 11 episodes into this arc, in a show whose story arcs never last more than 20+ episodes.

There’s definitely no way we’re finishing this plotline until next arc at the bare minimum.

Plus, if it was really the end, they would’ve advertised it as such by now,