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Pocket Monsters (2023) Speculation Thread

MunchMunch

Well-Known Member
Kilowattrel and sandquakes do not have exactly the same type, as one has a flying subtype and the other has a ground subtype.
Besides, what does it matter that they're both partially electric, since Paradox will probably never be used in combat (although I doubt he'll get caught).
I mean Coral just caught a Paradox Pokemon


Now that I think about it, Coral has never used her Tera Orb. Funnily enough Glalie has a Mega same with Onyx’s Aerodactyal. Wouldn’t be surprised if Coral Tera’s Scream Tail and Mega Evolves Glalie.
 

Guy100

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Well...if the possibility of Roy catching an ancient Paradox pokemon comes to fruition, then I guess its even slightly possible for Dot to catch a future paradox, which some fans are speculating. Based on the most recent episode of Area Zero, both Roy and Dot seemed alot more eagered to want to meet more Paradox Pokemon.

If Dot were to possibly catch a Paradox, then my guess would be "Iron Valiant " , since its origin is more science related. I would be surprised if she got Flutter Mane.

With that said, I look forward to the RVT's reunion battle with the Shiny Rayquaza. Its interesting how Tinkatuff isn't considered a secret weapon in battling the behemoth dragon (Rayquaza), especially since most of Rayquaza's moveset are ineffective to Tinkatuff, with it being a Fairly/ Steel type.
 
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Queen Cynthia

Dignified Queen of Sinnoh
Personally, I hope Roy won't catch that Sandy Shocks. First, because I don't like its weird design that much. Second, because it didn't appear to be very strong in that battle (of course, I'm aware we only got to see a short part of the battle). And third, because there's something about Roy's personality that makes me think he is more the Fire and Dragon-type trainer. But that's just my personal impression.
 

nuzamaki90

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As we get closer and closer to the finale shared between Gouging Fire and Rayquaza I’m starting to get a bit worried on where they are going from here? With Z-A likely being shown next month, it’s room to believe that Zygarde will also be featured around that time in the anime, particularly since we know it’s coming via the opening.

But that’s next month, not next year. If you didnt know any better you’d think the climax of the story is actually closer than we think, which seems impossible to me unless something major happens that extends the story for another year. That Friede scene in the opening is still unaccounted for, maybe they are related? I just can’t think of where this show can go if the Rakua stuff is handled within the next few months.
 

Queen Cynthia

Dignified Queen of Sinnoh
If you didnt know any better you’d think the climax of the story is actually closer than we think, which seems impossible to me unless something major happens that extends the story for another year. That Friede scene in the opening is still unaccounted for, maybe they are related? I just can’t think of where this show can go if the Rakua stuff is handled within the next few months.
I think they'll have to squeeze in Blueberry Academy somehow, too.

Also, I hope this (very good) story won't be over too soon. Otherwise, you can't help wondering what will happen to the protagonists and the rest of the RVTs. Will there be new protagonists, will there be an entirely new story or will Liko, Roy and the others stick around for many years just like Ash did?
We don't know, but it's interesting to think about it.
 
Will there be new protagonists
God, I really hope so.

I hope that they learned their mistake with Ash and that we'll keep getting fresh new protagonists from now, same way the Pokemon Adventures manga changes protagonists with every new series. This allows the main characters to develop without them overstaying their welcome, allowing for new stories and characters to take their place.

I also hope the next series will be strictly within one region instead of characters just flying around.
 

Queen Cynthia

Dignified Queen of Sinnoh
God, I really hope so.

I hope that they learned their mistake with Ash and that we'll keep getting fresh new protagonists from now, same way the Pokemon Adventures manga changes protagonists with every new series. This allows the main characters to develop without them overstaying their welcome, allowing for new stories and characters to take their place.

I also hope the next series will be strictly within one region instead of characters just flying around.
Frankly, I haven't made up my mind yet.
But...the problem with getting fresh characters too frequently is that it's hard to fully identify with them.
You see, I absolutely love the Anime and I've been watching it for over 25 years. And although I think Horizons is really great, it still feels a bit "different" with Liko and Roy instead of Ash. Yes, I somehow hated him for winning the PWC undeservedly but, well ,it was still Ash, the well-known protagonist that has been with us for several decades. And to be honest many many fans (me included) still hope that some of the old characters will eventually return. In my case it's Cynthia, of course.
What I want to say it's generally hard to get the same connection with fresh characters that keep getting replaced as with well-known ones.
Also, would you want to see characters having to start all over again whenever a new series begins?
 
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i2i

Big Bad Wolf
But that’s next month, not next year. If you didnt know any better you’d think the climax of the story is actually closer than we think, which seems impossible to me unless something major happens that extends the story for another year. That Friede scene in the opening is still unaccounted for, maybe they are related? I just can’t think of where this show can go if the Rakua stuff is handled within the next few months.

I think they'll have to squeeze in Blueberry Academy somehow, too.
My expectations for the next arc is them covering both The Blueberry Academy and the SV legendary and Mythical Pokémon (maybe even the gen 8 ones too) so they can get them out of the way before the release of Z-A.
 

DuskAstral

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My expectations for the next arc is them covering both The Blueberry Academy
Unfortunately, I think this thread will be ignored. I doubt that the creators of the anime would want to bring up the school topic again.
 

Guy100

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If horizon doesn't end this year, then its a possibility that it will be on its last run by early to mid next year.

Since the writers of the horizon series, seem eagered of telling a story that will have lasting growth development for the new protagonists, it seems doubtful that there are plans to extend Liko and Roy's continuity as main characters of the anime.

Once characters are written at their peak of story development, its seems challenging for writers to introduce new story's or adventures that center on their progression. I can imagine this may have been the very reason why the previous main protagonist's growth development was stunted for so long during early stories of the pokemon anime just for the purpose of story telling longevity.

So far, I think pokemon horizon has proven that today's generation of children aren't too attached to characters of previous stories which is why its target audience of today continue to take interest in the franchise's direction of introducing new protagonists.

Its a common trend for children to take interest and then move on from certain genres they grew up watching, and it could be speculated that the pokemon anime has perhaps taken note of this.

Its probably a safe bet that, children that grew up watching Liko and Roy's adventure will perhaps move on to other anime shows as they get older, and this opportunity could allow for the pokemon franchise to introduce newer protagonists for the next generation of their target aged audience.

Other anime shows such as Yugioh and Digimon have followed this trend, so it would be refreshing if the pokemon franchise followed as well. The only anime series, I can imagine, that goes against this style, is perhaps Dragon Ball, since Son Goku is too iconic of a character to replace.
 

nuzamaki90

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It’s a bit of a confusing predicament because the story has been almost entirely revolving around Rakua, so the possibility for it to all be resolved in the next few episodes is a bit bizarre.

I would’ve liked to see Blueberry and the like, but I don’t know how that would connect to the main narrative. This may finally be the time to maybe age up these characters, I’d like to see an original story that revolves around a more refined trio.
 

Guy100

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Personally, I hope Roy won't catch that Sandy Shocks. First, because I don't like its weird design that much. Second, because it didn't appear to be very strong in that battle (of course, I'm aware we only got to see a short part of the battle). And third, because there's something about Roy's personality that makes me think he is more the Fire and Dragon-type trainer. But that's just my personal impression.
If Roy does get Sandy Shocks, would you consider Sandy Shocks an improvement over its possible predecessor, Dracovish.
 
Here's my prediction/speculation for the rest of this arc.

- Entei joins the RVT (most likely outcome since the special preview shows them fighting Rayquaza)
- Rayquaza joins the RVT. (most likely outcome since the special preview shows Rayquaza hurt and trapped within a cliff)
- Terapagos full power restored. (lines up with the previous events and explains why Gibeon would appear)
- Gibeon/Explorers invasion with Zygarde. (Gibeon/Explorers launch an attack now that the turtle is fully-powered, shown by the opening and previously foreshadowed by Gibeon instructing the Explorers/Amethio to wait until Terapagos fully awakens)
- Something happens to Friede (the opening hints at it, but not sure what might happen)
- Something happens to prevent the RVT from reaching Rakua (I can only assume since we still have many episodes left)

For whatever reason, they've decided to speed up the gathering of the Six Heroes and have it all occur within a single arc, which is an insane writing decision, so I'm dying to know what they have planned for the future because they could have easily spread this out.
 

Guy100

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If reaching Rakua is not the focus of the next arc, due to specific circumstances caused by turn of events, then I'd imagine the next story adventure may perhaps revolve around a treasure hunt arc for specific artifacts that would enable passage into Rakua.

If a treasure hunting arc is the next phase of the adventure, this could allow the story to introduce the "Treasures of Ruin Legendaries", especially since Chien-Pao is seemingly a popular pokemon design. Also, since Lucius seemingly visited Area Zero prior to going to Rakau, perhaps the Hidden Treasure of Area Zero story may somewhat tie in to the narrative, which could include Miraidon and Koraidon respectively, along with Arven's parents (Professor Sada and Turo).

If horizon were to introduce a possible timeskip, which I would assume could be a one or two month timespan, I'd imagine the story to reveal Liko and Roy completing the gym challenge and Paldea League Assessment offscreen, Friede's departure from the RVT during the timeskip, and Dot working with the Paldea research team.

Then after the timeskip, I'd speculate the story to move forward with the RVT reaching Rakua with Friede's return, and then perhaps after things are resolved we get an Ace Tournament arc, Roy earning Rayquaza's acceptance as its trainer and then the series ending with the group going their separate ways.

This is my best guess so far.
 
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ShadowForce720

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Personally, I hope Roy won't catch that Sandy Shocks. First, because I don't like its weird design that much. Second, because it didn't appear to be very strong in that battle (of course, I'm aware we only got to see a short part of the battle). And third, because there's something about Roy's personality that makes me think he is more the Fire and Dragon-type trainer. But that's just my personal impression.
No offense but I’m not sure why you would think he is a Fire and Dragon type trainer when he literally has a Kilowattrel which has nothing to do with Fire types nor is a Dragon in any way,
 
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Queen Cynthia

Dignified Queen of Sinnoh
No offense but I’m not sure why you would think he is a Fire and Dragon type trainer when he literally has a Kilowattrel which has nothing to do with Fire types nor is a Dragon in any way,
I said that because of Roy's "fiery", energetic and rather passionate personality. Thus, I think Fire-type Pokemon (and partly dragons) are a pretty good fit. Or to put it differently: If he were a gym leader, he would probably specialize in Fire-types I guess. That doesn't mean he can't have Pokemon of other types as well though
 
Ok, looking at the rest of the future episode titles right now. If they’re not going to let anymore Paradox Pokemon debut in the anime, then they really shouldn’t have let Great Tusk and Sandy shocks even appear. Because what’s the point of showcasing certain wild Pokemon irrelevant to the story if they’re never going to appear again? I’m confused over how the Horizons anime is handling debuts right now. Are there more Paradox Pokemon even going to show up or not?
 
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