Kazuniya
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HZ being a different series doesn't justify pretty blatant issues with character focus. Even if Ashanime did not exist, those issues would still be present.
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Pocket Monsters (2023) Speculation Thread
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Illusio
No words, only rage
Yeah, but it's the bare minimum. Compared to almost any other Box Legendary it got scraps, especially when the fluffy Wyvern got the red carpet treatment in the main show.
But if we are counting movies then we still have Calyrex who was mentioned earlier as its a DLC mascot and yet completely MIA from the anime. Even the Raidons have the TR segments.
Poke Master 7
Boulder Trainer
Doesn’t mean that people shouldn’t want to see a character that’s supposed to be a protagonist actually get to shine and be a Pokémon trainer. This is still Pokemon, there‘s not really entertainment value in watching a protagonist lose continuously especially this late in the series. Pretty sure wanting the protagonist to be successful is a universal value not just one original to Ash’s story.
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SerGoldenhandtheJust
Deluded Dreamer
Id argue people actually downplay HZ shortcomings because of the Ashnime and all the flaws it had and how HZ is different
The flaws would be so much more glaring if we didnt have lots of missteps that people use to compare it to
Poke Master 7
Boulder Trainer
Agreed. This has honestly bothered me when it comes to the writing. Like, what exactly was their game plan had Diana and Briar not done the research to discover that they needed 18 Pokémon of the different Tera types resonating with Terapagos to eliminate the Rakurium?
HorizonsFan0305_FRVR
Well-Known Member
I also get confused on what would be the first action they would do,because remember back in start of timeskip(mega voltage)Liko wanted to get the truth about what really happened in Laqua and clear the rising volttacklers name,then after they trained in BB academy they should've collected the remaining tera types needed but now they're choosing to save the six heroes out of nowhere?
Its interesting how the pokemon anime has not yet contemplated on the idea of introducing a contest that allows its Japanese target audience the opportunity to randomly pick an additional (extra) pokemon for the main protagonist of the story to catch in the series. Every legendary / mythical pokemon would understandably be excluded from the contest, however common pokemon would be considered.
For example, this pokemon would be considered an extra (7th capture), and may perhaps be temporarily introduced to the story, just to get released. It could be featured in a filler episode in which the protagonist enters a catching contest or safari zone event etc.
I think an idea such as this could be innovative, for the next series story.
For example, this pokemon would be considered an extra (7th capture), and may perhaps be temporarily introduced to the story, just to get released. It could be featured in a filler episode in which the protagonist enters a catching contest or safari zone event etc.
I think an idea such as this could be innovative, for the next series story.
Blue Saturday
Violet Prince❤️
I truly believe the writers are signaling that the Pokémon anime shouldn't just be a lazy 1:1 copy-paste of the game scripts anymore. Adapting characters and plots exactly as they appear in the source material can feel uninspired and predictable; the show is at its best when it provides genuine shocks, like the reveal of Spinel as the CEO of Exceed rather than just another hiding-in-plain-sight villain.
This shift allows the series to experiment with new structures instead of stretching a predictable badge quest over four years. For Liko, the writers are clearly delivering on her specific narrative goals rather than traditional tropes. She pledged back in Episode 21 to be a trainer who understands the feelings of Pokémon, and her internal monologues consistently highlight her struggle to take action for the sake of Terapagos and Rakua. She was never presented as a "battle maniac" but as an empath.
2026 will be an interesting year. Like the Character Goh, the Horizon story was an experiment to test audience reaction.
I think the entirety of the Horizon story could have probably worked better as a mini-series adventure, perhaps 26 episodes, or perhaps been made a movie.
I think the anime will incorporate some of the basic story telling's in the next series that are germane to the video game for more familiarly of the gen story it will showcase. The new story's plot doesn't need to focus predominately on a badge collection story arc, although I think badge collection quest should be added into the story element just to test the protagonist resolve as skillful trainer.
I also think the trainer's or protagonist's goal should be more detailed, such as how can he or she accomplish the said goal they hope to achieve and how will it be acknowledged as completed. Perhaps introducing pillars to be overcome to get it or illustrate how nigh-impossible the goal maybe which makes the adventure never-ending.
camimon
Active Member
We don't need another 25 years long series.
Zhydra
Master of Chaos!
This, it's why I didn't mind Horizons moving the game plots to something that's said and done while doing it's own thing.
Because prior we GOT an idea on what the villain is going to do or how the story is going to play out. Even in the SM anime where Lusamine wasn't an evil witch, they kept the REALLY serious child neglect among other things, while somehow fitting in the Mother Beast.
We knew prior that a good chunk of Lillie's trauma had something to do with Lusamine and Type:Null's introduction was... much but accurate.
Just cause I say I've seen beats with the Spinel stuff before doesn't mean I don't like these story beats.
It's also why I like her team comp at the moment too.
People forget, the world of Pokemon isn't just about the battling. It's a wide world of these strange, super powered creatures that as Legends Arceus show cased, can be pretty scary to the average joe who's never been well versed.
It's people learning to deal with it and live in sync with those guys, that gives the world it's charm.
Kazuniya
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Amen to that. Adventures need to end at some point so we can get new adventures. Never-ending adventures get stale and end up wrecking the characters in the process. I certainly don't want another main character with a vaguely defined goal like Pokemon Master.
Jangobadass
"Let's see how YOU like it, ***hole!"
I thought Goh was just walking, talking advertisement for Pokemon Go...
BTW, aren't we due for episodes titles for the month??? Did I miss the calendar thing?
Kazuniya
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They are probably withholding titles to minimize spoilers, I guess. Since the next episode is featuring the characters storming Explorers HQ to save Six Heroes, maybe they don't want to spoil the outcome of that episode.
Next week, we have a break.
Then we have episodes on January 23 and January 30.
Jangobadass
"Let's see how YOU like it, ***hole!"
^ thank you 
(though we just HAD a 2 week break... )
(though we just HAD a 2 week break...
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Pokemonfanforlife7
Year of the Fire Horse
Oh, he was.
They sort of did this in BW, polling viewers on which former Rocket trio mon they wanted to return. Sonansu obviously won, and did in fact return for XY.
ShadowForce720
Well-Known Member
Just out of curiosity what were the other choices on that poll?
Manene and Dokucale.
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