Pocket Monsters (2023) Speculation Thread

[Kazuniya]

Anyway, a possible arc i could see after the Rakurium arc is something along the lines of the crisis at rakua has caused Rogue Megas to appear similar to ZA

I've thought of that too, but we've had mega-capable Pokemon infected with Rakurium (like Steelix) and it didn't trigger mega evolution. So, they'd need to introduce an additional factor for that to happen, or maybe the Rakurium evolves somehow and it forces mega evolution.

Or maybe Kalos is a special region with mega energy, and that's all it takes to cause Rogue Megas.

 

[Decidueye23]

I've thought of that too, but we've had mega-capable Pokemon infected with Rakurium (like Steelix) and it didn't trigger mega evolution. So, they'd need to introduce an additional factor for that to happen, or maybe the Rakurium evolves somehow and it forces mega evolution.

Or maybe Kalos is a special region with mega energy, and that's all it takes to cause Rogue Megas.

Yeah there's alot they could come up with since we dont know much about rakurium anyway. For ex : the rakurium spinel used was maybe not sufficient. Maybe super strong sphere's can trigger it and not strong spheres.

Besides With Rayquaza, Agate and potentially Zygarde ME i think we'll be seeing megas more.

 

[Guy100]

There's no point in Roy catching either of them since he's already paired with Sandy Shocks.

Roy was never paired with Sandy Rocks, as it was just a random encounter with a pokemon that took a curisoity in his singing. If captures worked on a simple meet and greet moment , then Liko would have been paired long ago with Maushold and Palafin.

In addition, above the other cast members, Roy is often paired with pokemon the franchises highly fancies for game marketing promotion. If Roy gets a paradox pokemon, chances are it will be one of the most recognized, such as a Koriadan or one of the dog trio paradox variants.

 

[ShadowForce720]

Roy was never paired with Sandy Rocks, as it was just a random encounter with a pokemon that took a curisoity in his singing. If captures worked on a simple meet and greet moment , then Liko would have been paired long ago with Maushold and Palafin.

In addition, above the other cast members, Roy is often paired with pokemon the franchises highly fancies for game marketing promotion. If Roy gets a paradox pokemon, chances are it will be one of the most recognized, such as a Koriadan or one of the dog trio paradox variants.

Roy has never been associated or paired with those Pokémon. Not saying it’s impossible.


However in the case of Sandy Shocks, Roy specifically told it that he would come see it again and then Sandy Shocks started singing/humming the exact song that was unique to Roy and his team.

You might have a point if we had seen multiple cases of wild Pokémon singing that specific song but that isn’t what happened.

So like it or not Sandy Shocks does have association with Roy which puts it ahead of the other paradox Pokémon that have zero association with Roy.

And no, just because Liko didn’t catch Palafin and Maushold doesn’t prevent Roy from catching Sandy Shocks. Especially when you consider the fact that in its initial debut Characadet bond with and had a very small moment with Terapagos with Liko not catching it in that episode and yet that didn’t prevent Characadet from returning in a later episode and getting caught by Liko then, which going by your own logic that shouldn’t have been possible because that isn’t how captures work.

And by the way if Roy was only allowed to catch mons that are extremely popular then Kilowattrel would have never made it on to his team as Kilowattrel while not unpopular is not to the level of popularity as your trying to suggest.

So Sandy Shocks has a good chance of making it on to Roy’s team if he does wind up getting a Paradox Mon.

 

[DuskAstral]

Roy was never paired with Sandy Rocks, as it was just a random encounter with a pokemon that took a curisoity in his singing

So the fact that Sandy Shocks hummed the song "Roy" doesn't mean anything to you?

What would be the point of this if he wasn't going to be captured in the future?

 

[Decidueye23]

So the fact that Sandy Shocks hummed the song "Roy" doesn't mean anything to you?

What would be the point of this if he wasn't going to be captured in the future?

Riolu snover hippopotas all say hi from sinnoh.
Phantump Says hi from kalos
Wimpod says hi from Alola

 

[ShadowForce720]

Riolu snover hippopotas all say hi from sinnoh.
Phantump Says hi from kalos
Wimpod says hi from Alola

Last time I checked none of those Pokémon for instance started wearing Ash’s cap so the comparison doesn’t really work.

 

[Jangobadass]

Riolu snover hippopotas all say hi from sinnoh.
Phantump Says hi from kalos
Wimpod says hi from Alola

Dewpider ALSO says hi from Alola.
Larvitar says hi from Johto.
Deino says hi from Isshu.

I think I'm forgetting some. I'll keep an eye on my messages.

 

[Decidueye23]

Last time I checked none of those Pokémon for instance started wearing Ash’s cap so the comparison doesn’t really work.

Well ash nearly wore one of them as a cap. And he wore passimians mask for the whole episode. Characters have bonded with pokemon so many times yet did not capture them.
Whether its chloe with Ponyta, or ash with countless of them including Latias in MPM even, or Max and Ralts and so on and on.

Like yeah, can Roy get sandy shocks? Sure. Is it gauranteed? No.

 

[Pokemonfanforlife7]

So the fact that Sandy Shocks hummed the song "Roy" doesn't mean anything to you?

What would be the point of this if he wasn't going to be captured in the future?

It was most likely a gag, and nothing more.

 

[ShadowForce720]

It was most likely a gag, and nothing more.

That argument completely falls apart when you consider the fact that Gimmighoul putting Roy and the others under its spell started as a gag and yet that didn’t prevent it from returning and getting caught by Dot.

Likewise in its debut episode Characadet rode around on Terapagos but didn’t get caught then and yet that didn’t prevent it from returning and getting caught in by Liko.

So the argument that Sandy Shocks was just a gag and nothing more doesn’t really work.

Especially when you consider the fact that Sandy Shocks is literally the only wild Pokémon to start singing the song that is unique to Roy and his team.


Sure it’s not guaranteed to that Sandy Shocks is going to get caught by Roy.

However Sandy Shocks has a really decent chance of making it on to Roy’s team, and to try to argue that among the paradox mons that some how Pokémon the Pokémon that haven’t even shown up yet and have zero connection to Roy are more likely then Sandy Shocks which has more of a connection to Roy then them is absurd.

Well ash nearly wore one of them as a cap. And he wore passimians mask for the whole episode. Characters have bonded with pokemon so many times yet did not capture them.
Whether its chloe with Ponyta, or ash with countless of them including Latias in MPM even, or Max and Ralts and so on and on.

Like yeah, can Roy get sandy shocks? Sure. Is it gauranteed? No.

of course it’s not guaranteed that Roy is going to get Sandy Shocks, but it does have a relatively good chance of happening.

As for your argument that oh but we have had cases before we’re a Pokémon bonded with a character but didn’t get caught, that’s true but you know what also true, is the fact that we have also had cases where a wild Pokémon bonded with a character and did eventually get caught in a later episode.


Heck in Horizons alone we had Liko and Dot catch Characadet and Gimmighoul respectively outside of their debut episodes even though if you go off of their debut episodes they had less going for them hinting at their captures then Sandy Shocks.


So yeah, while not guaranteed Sandy Shocks chances of getting caught by Roy are actually pretty good.

 

[AuraChannelerChris]

Sobble previews say hi from ??? (because we all though for sure it was for Ash).

 

[ShadowForce720]

Sobble previews say hi from ??? (because we all though for sure it was for Ash).

That argument doesn’t work as Ash and Sobble were never really shown together in the preview.

Where as Sandy Shocks literally interacted with Roy and battled with him and then started singing Roy’s unique song in its debut episode.

 

[AuraChannelerChris]

That argument doesn’t work as Ash and Sobble were never really shown together in the preview.

Keywords: we all thought

 

[345ash-greninja]

That argument doesn’t work as Ash and Sobble were never really shown together in the preview.

Where as Sandy Shocks literally interacted with Roy and battled with him and then started singing Roy’s unique song in its debut episode.

That doesn't anyhow guarantee or mean that Roy will catch Sandy Shocks. Ash formed a far stronger connection with that Aura Sphere Riolu back in Sinnoh where he literally formed a special Aura bond with it and yet that Riolu still didn't end up being captured by Ash.

Expecting Roy to capture Sandy Shocks is pretty much wishful thinking at this point when so many episodes have passed since Roy encountered it. If the anime really set up Sandy Shocks as a capture for Roy then there hardly any possible reason for them to delay the capture for so many episodes since Roy first encountered it. I do remember you similarly speculating hard in the SM days that Ash would catch that Grubbin he encountered very early in the series, but oh well, that speculation eventually turned out to be wrong. I have a hunch that your speculation regarding Roy & Sandy Shocks would similarly turn out to be wrong as well.

 

[i2i]

it'll be interesting to see if the other 5 Hero Pokemon decide to get caught by the cast after Rakua is dealt with. Maybe it'll be 1-to-1 who beat them back at Exceed.

Original I thought that too but why not right after they were rescued especially since they didn’t hold off on Roy catching Rayquaza. So I think either they’re not going to be caught or it’s not going to be the exact same pairings.

Uruto could really use a third capture and I’m hoping Yamirami and Kairyu get a proper Double Battle soon.

I have been wondering for a while about next captures for both him and Ann.

If Terapagos and the legendaries stay behind in Laqua, maybe one more Pokémon to fill in the blank spot when they go but that'll be it.

I know we can’t help but think there might be a catch for the kids having legendaries but maybe there isn’t one.

Liko could get a Pokémon like Froslass that can mega evolve and I dunno Roy just gets the Sandy Shocks he's ignored for ages. No more megas for you boys or anyone else for that matter aside

Nothing against Froslass but I would prefer another Pokemon for her Mega.

Riolu snover hippopotas all say hi from sinnoh.
Phantump Says hi from kalos
Wimpod says hi from Alola

Dewpider ALSO says hi from Alola.
Larvitar says hi from Johto.
Deino says hi from Isshu.

I think I'm forgetting some. I'll keep an eye on my messages.

I know there’s probably dozens of examples to choose from but you guys do have to admit the likelihood of them returning to Aera Zero and encountering that one Sandy Shocks is very high.

 

[ilteren]

Dewpider ALSO says hi from Alola.
Larvitar says hi from Johto.
Deino says hi from Isshu.

I think I'm forgetting some. I'll keep an eye on my messages.

Swablu says hi from Hoenn

 

[Poke Master 7]

I know there’s probably dozens of examples to choose from but you guys do have to admit the likelihood of them returning to Aera Zero and encountering that one Sandy Shocks is very high.

I mean is there really? The only reason that they even went to Area Zero in the first place was because Gauging Fire was spotted there when they were gathering the Six Heroes. They don‘t really have any reason to return there at this point especially since Rayquaza itself has gone off to gather the heroes for the confrontation at Rakua. Given how wishy washy these writers have been with game locations, Area Zero has very likely served its purpose for them.

 

[Pokemonfanforlife7]

I mean is there really? The only reason that they even went to Area Zero in the first place was because Gauging Fire was spotted there when they were gathering the Six Heroes. They don‘t really have any reason to return there at this point especially since Rayquaza itself has gone off to gather the heroes for the confrontation at Rakua. Given how wishy washy these writers have been with game locations, Area Zero has very likely served its purpose for them.

Sad but true. Which means that anyone who wanted to see the rest of the Paradox Pokemon in the anime can pretty much kiss those hopes goodbye.

 

[0cerge]

That argument completely falls apart when you consider the fact that Gimmighoul putting Roy and the others under its spell started as a gag and yet that didn’t prevent it from returning and getting caught by Dot.

But don't forget that Roy had initially shown interest in catching it.