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Pokédex/Attackdex Errors

Discussion in 'Serebii.net Discussion' started by Serebii, Sep 5, 2006.

  1. Racthoh

    Racthoh New Member

    Possible error in the Lets Go Pikachu/Eevee Dex - I caught a level 45 Tentacool with perfect IVs and it's CP was much lower than what the website said here (1255 instead of 1350) - https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/072.shtml

    Makes me wonder if the calculation is wrong for every pokemon there

    edit: So I'm going to go ahead and assume that there's no error here, but that the CP values also take into account something non-IV related, like Nature.

    So while there isn't really an error, it's only listing the max for 1 specific nature I guess?
     
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2019
  2. Sceptile Leaf Blade

    Sceptile Leaf Blade Nighttime Guardian

  3. shoz999

    shoz999 IT WAS ME! SETETH!

    Question? I looked at the Pokedex hub and I've noticed it's incomplete. Your missing just one Pokedex database of Serebii.net it appears. You have the main series games, spin-off in there own separate sections and you also have the TCG, anime and even the newest addition, the cinematic Pokedex under "Other Databases". You have every Serebii.net Pokedex that I'm aware of except for the mangadex? Why? I even looked at the latest news of the Pokdex Hub and I saw no mention of it. What's even weirder than that is that there's no mention of any of the Pokemon Adventures volumes in any of the Generation-based pages that the Pokedex hub links to. Could you please provide an explanation for the missing information?
     
  4. Serebii

    Serebii And, as if by magic, the webmaster appeared... Staff Member Admin

    At present, due to the leaving of Coronis who managed the Manga section, we're currently rethinking how best to do it. Once we've sorted out a continuation of the Manga Dex, then it'll be added
     
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  5. shoz999

    shoz999 IT WAS ME! SETETH!

    Thank you for the information. Won't lie, it's a bit disappointing that such an enthusiastic member of Serebii.net left. Whether he realized it or not, he had a big hand in furthering Serebii.net's reputation as one of the greatest and most reliable databases across the web, especially during my childhood. However it's also very understandable why he left, just wanting to relax and enjoy Pokemon as another Pokemon fan without the responsibilities of being a member of the Serebii team. Or at least that's how I hear it from the Adventures section.
     
  6. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

  7. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/140.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-xy/aerialace.shtml

    Kabuto can learn Aerial Ace in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, but neither of these pages say that this is the case.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/171.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/stockpile.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/swallow.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/spitup.shtml

    On Lanturn's page, under "Sun/Moon Level Up", Stockpile, Swallow, and Spit Up are each listed twice, with one instance for each move having it labeled as an "Evolve" move and the other instance of each move having it labeled as a move that is learned at the base level. No other Pokemon (or at least, no other Pokemon that I can think of) has their "Evolve" moves listed twice and instead only have them listed as "Evolve" moves - in fact, Lanturn has its "Evolve" moves displayed only once under "Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon Level Up". This also has an effect on the Attackdex pages for each of those moves - on each move's page, it is stated that Lanturn learns the move at Level 1 in Sun and Moon, but learns it upon evolving from Chinchou in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-gs/198.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/steelwing.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/skyattack.shtml

    Murkrow has Sky Attack as an Egg Move in Crystal, not Steel Wing.
     
    Last edited: May 22, 2019
  8. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/140.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-xy/aerialace.shtml

    It's nice to see that my earlier comment about Kabuto learning Aerial Ace was addressed, but it was addressed incorrectly. Kabuto can only learn Aerial Ace in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, and not in X and Y. Kabuto's page says that Kabuto can learn Aerial Ace in all Gen 6 games, while Aerial Ace's page says that Kabuto can't learn Aerial Ace in any Gen 6 games.

    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/dig.shtml

    Also, on a similar note, Hippopotas and Hippowdon can only learn Dig from a TM in HG/SS in Gen 4 - they can't learn Dig at all in the Sinnoh games. This page says that they can learn Dig from a TM in any Gen 4 game.

    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/taunt.shtml

    This page says that Kricketune can learn Taunt from a TM in any Gen 4 game, but it can only learn Taunt from a TM in HG/SS.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/191.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/192.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/earthpower.shtml

    Sunkern and Sunflora can learn Earth Power from a Move Tutor in HG/SS (but not in Platinum). These pages say that Sunkern and Sunflora can't learn Earth Power at all in Gen 4.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/171.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/stockpile.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/swallow.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/spitup.shtml

    My previous comment about Lanturn was not addressed. Refer to my previous comment for the full details.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/205.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/mirrorshot.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/autotomize.shtml

    On a similar note compared to the Lanturn issue, it seems that I was wrong when I said that no other Pokemon had this issue. Forretress has this same issue with Mirror Shot and Autotomize. Specifically, on Forretress's page, under "Sun/Moon Level Up", Mirror Shot and Autotomize are each listed twice, with one instance for each move having it labeled as an "Evolve" move and the other instance of each move having it labeled as a move that is learned at the base level. Most Pokemon don't have their "Evolve" moves listed twice and instead only have them listed as "Evolve" moves - in fact, Forretress has its "Evolve" moves displayed only once under "Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon Level Up". This also has an effect on the Attackdex pages for each of those moves - on each move's page, it is stated that Forretress learns the move at Level 1 in Sun and Moon, but learns it upon evolving from Pineco in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. That being said, there's another issue at play here - the only differences that I could find between the "Sun/Moon Level Up" list for Forretress and the "Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon Level Up" list for Forretress is the presence of the extra Mirror Shot and extra Autotomize on the "Sun/Moon Level Up" list, meaning that Forretress actually learns the exact same moves by leveling up in any Gen 7 game.

    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/steelwing.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/skyattack.shtml

    It's nice to see that my earlier comment about Murkrow having Sky Attack instead of Steel Wing as an Egg Move in Crystal was addressed, but it wasn't fully fixed. Murkrow's page now displays the correct Egg Moves, but the pages for Steel Wing and Sky Attack still say that Murkrow has Steel Wing as an Egg Move, but not Sky Attack. Also, it seems that Crystal-only Egg Moves are not labeled as only being available in Crystal on the pages for the moves. I would go into further detail about that, but I don't have time for it right now.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/201.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-xy/hiddenpower.shtml

    Unown can learn Hidden Power from a TM in Gen 6 (or at least, it would be able to if it were possible to get an Unown that doesn't already know Hidden Power). Both of these pages say that Unown isn't compatible with the TM for Hidden Power in Gen 6.
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2019
  9. Sceptile Leaf Blade

    Sceptile Leaf Blade Nighttime Guardian

    Link: https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/futuresight.shtml
    Error: In-depth description says Future Sight can't get a critical hit, but it is able to (at least in Alola games). You can force it to crit by using Laser Focus on the turn before it deals damage (so the turn after Future Sight is used)
     
  10. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-xy/aerialace.shtml

    It's good to see that my previous comment about Kabuto learning Aerial Ace was addressed, but the page for Aerial Ace still says that Kabuto can't learn Aerial Ace in any Gen 6 game - even though it can learn Aerial Ace in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire (just not in X and Y).

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/171.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/stockpile.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/swallow.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/spitup.shtml

    My previous comment about Lanturn was not addressed. Refer to my previous comment for the full details.

    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/dig.shtml

    My previous comment about Hippopotas and Hippowdon was not addressed. Refer to my previous comment for the full details.

    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/taunt.shtml

    My previous comment about Kricketune was not addressed. Refer to my previous comment for the full details.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/191.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/192.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/earthpower.shtml

    My previous comment about Sunkern and Sunflora being able to learn Earth Power in HG/SS, but not in Platinum, was not addressed. Refer to my previous comment for the full details.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/205.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/mirrorshot.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/autotomize.shtml

    My previous comment about Forretress was not addressed. Refer to my previous comment for the full details.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/201.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-xy/hiddenpower.shtml

    My previous comment about Unown was not addressed. Refer to my previous comment for the full details.

    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/crunch.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/metalclaw.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/swordsdance.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/submission.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/skyattack.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/watergun.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/crosschop.shtml

    Crystal-exclusive Egg Moves are not labeled as such in the Gen 2 Attackdex. To aid in the labeling, the list of Crystal-exclusive Egg Moves is as follows:

    Ekans/Arbok: Crunch
    Sandshrew/Sandslash: Metal Claw
    Cubone/Marowak: Swords Dance
    Chikorita/Bayleef/Meganium: Swords Dance
    Cyndaquil/Quilava/Typhlosion: Submission
    Hoothoot/Noctowl: Sky Attack
    Murkrow: Sky Attack
    Teddiursa/Ursaring: Metal Claw
    Skarmory: Sky Attack
    Phanpy/Donphan: Water Gun
    Elekid/Electabuzz: Cross Chop
    Magby/Magmar: Cross Chop

    Just in case someone might misinterpret what I'm saying here, by "Crystal-exclusive Egg Move", I mean "Egg Move available in Crystal but not in Gold and Silver". Some of these moves are available in later generations.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-gs/054.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-gs/055.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-gs/crosschop.shtml

    On that note, Psyduck gets Cross Chop as an Egg Move in Crystal (but not in Gold and Silver), but these pages say that Psyduck doesn't get Cross Chop as an Egg Move in any Gen 2 game.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/011.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/014.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/266.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/268.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/harden.shtml

    Similarly to the issue with Lanturn and Forretress, on the pages for Metapod, Kakuna, Silcoon, and Cascoon, Harden is listed twice, with one instance having it labeled as an "Evolve" move and the other instance of each move having it labeled as a move that is learned at the base level. Most Pokemon that have "Evolve" moves only have those moves listed once. This also has an effect on the Attackdex page for Harden - on Harden's page, it is stated that the four Pokemon all learn the move at Level 1, instead of learning it by evolving from their previous forms.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/028.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/crushclaw.shtml

    Sandslash can learn Crush Claw upon evolving from Sandshrew regardless of level in all Gen 7 games (please note that I'm only talking about the original forms for them here). On Sandslash's page, it is stated that Sandslash doesn't learn Crush Claw upon evolving from Sandshrew and instead requires a Heart Scale to learn, while on Crush Claw's page, it is stated that Sandslash does learn Crush Claw upon evolving from Sandshrew, but only in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/291.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/doubleteam.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/screech.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/furycutter.shtml

    Just like with the issue with Lanturn and Forretress, Ninjask has an issue with Double Team, Screech, and Fury Cutter. Specifically, on Ninjask's page, under "Sun/Moon Level Up", Double Team, Screech, and Fury Cutter are each listed twice, with one instance for each move having it labeled as an "Evolve" move and the other instance of each move having it labeled as a move that is learned at the base level. Most Pokemon don't have their "Evolve" moves listed twice and instead only have them listed as "Evolve" moves - in fact, Ninjask has its "Evolve" moves displayed only once under "Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon Level Up". This also has an effect on the Attackdex pages for each of those moves - on each move's page, it is stated that Ninjask learns the move at Level 1 in Sun and Moon, but learns it upon evolving from Nincada in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. That being said, there's another issue at play here - the only differences that I could find between the "Sun/Moon Level Up" list for Ninjask and the "Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon Level Up" list for Ninjask is the presence of the extra Double Team, extra Screech, and extra Fury Cutter on the "Sun/Moon Level Up" list, meaning that Ninjask actually learns the exact same moves by leveling up in any Gen 7 game.
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2019
  11. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

  12. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/386.shtml

    The Defense Forme of Deoxys yields 2 EVs in Defense and 1 EV in Special Defense like in any other generation, but this page says that it yields 2 EVs in Defense and none in Special Defense.

    Also, the Level-Up Move lists for the Attack, Defense, and Speed Formes imply that they don't have any level-up moves in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, which is obviously not true.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/413.shtml

    Wormadam's Trash Cloak form yields 1 EV in Defense and 1 EV in Special Defense like in any other generation, but this page says that it yields 1 EV in Defense and none in Special Defense.

    Also, the Level-Up Move lists for the Sandy Cloak and Trash Cloak forms of Wormadam imply that they don't have any level-up moves in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, which is obviously not true.

    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/quiverdance.shtml

    Connected to the Wormadam error, the page for Quiver Dance says that the Sandy Cloak and Trash Cloak forms of Wormadam can learn Quiver Dance, but it doesn't say that they can learn it as an "Evolve" move. There's just empty blank spaces in their rows.
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2019
  13. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/462.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/triattack.shtml

    Magnezone doesn't learn Tri Attack upon evolving from Magneton in Sun and Moon, but the Gen 7 pages for Magnezone and Tri Attack both say that it does.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/476.shtml

    However, Probopass does learn Tri Attack upon evolving from Nosepass in Sun and Moon. In fact, its list of level-up moves is the same in all Gen 7 games, so it should just have a single table of level-up moves. This error is also shown on the page for Tri Attack.
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2019
  14. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/525.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/526.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/powergem.shtml

    According to these pages, Boldore doesn't learn Power Gem upon evolving from Roggenrola in Sun and Moon, while Gigalith does learn Power Gem upon evolving from Boldore in Sun and Moon.

    This is not true. Boldore and Gigalith learn Power Gem the same way in Sun and Moon that they do in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon - namely, Boldore learns Power Gem upon evolving from Roggenrola and Gigalith just gets it at Level 1. Also, since this is the only difference in the Sun/Moon and Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon Level-Up move lists for both of them, they should each have a single Level-Up move list for all of Generation 7.
     
  15. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/550.shtml

    According to this page, both forms of Basculin have a 5% chance of holding a Deep Sea Tooth when caught in the wild in any Gen 7 game.

    This is not true. Like in previous generations, the Blue-Striped Form instead has a 5% chance of holding a Deep Sea Scale when caught in the wild.

    Also, is there any particular reason why the Abilties section for Basculin still mentions that you can catch wild Blue-Striped Basculin with Reckless in Black and White? Even if you caught such a Basculin and then transferred it to Gen 7, it would wind up having Rock Head instead after the transfer.

    In fact...

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/550.shtml

    This same note on getting a Blue-Striped Basculin with Reckless is also mentioned on the Gen 6 page for Basculin. Since these Basculin have their Ability switched over to Rock Head upon Bank transfer to Gen 6, there's really no reason to mention this on the Gen 6 page.
     
  16. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

  17. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/646.shtml

    The Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon Level Up move lists for Black Kyurem and White Kyurem are missing. They don't have the same level-up moves in those games that they have in Sun and Moon.
     
  18. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

  19. Sceptile Leaf Blade

    Sceptile Leaf Blade Nighttime Guardian

  20. CharizardFire6

    CharizardFire6 Charizard Trainer

    If that was the reason for it, Mew wouldn't have a 100% chance of holding a Lum Berry listed in its Gen 7 page.

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/151.shtml

    Since Mew holding a Lum Berry is shown, the most likely explanation is that the alternate form data got mixed up in the data gathering.

    Anyway,

    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/thrash.shtml

    Lycanroc should have Thrash listed as an Evolve move in the USUM column, but instead Lycanroc's row consists of nothing but blank spaces.

    Also,

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/773.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/grasspledge.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/firepledge.shtml
    https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/waterpledge.shtml

    Silvally can only learn the Pledge moves in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. In addition to that, I heard that Silvally is actually only able to learn Grass Pledge in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon due to some kind of coding error that prevents the move tutor from offering to teach Silvally Fire Pledge or Water Pledge. Please investigate the compatibility for Silvally and correct any errors found on these pages.

    Another thing I found...

    https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/774.shtml

    The section for "Effort Values Earned" is only accurate for the Meteorite Form. For the exposed Core, the actual Effort Values Earned is 1 Attack + 1 Special Attack.
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2019
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