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Pokémon Bank & Poké Transporter Thread [READ FIRST POST]
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Haunter ゴースト
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Cheers for the help - i assumed it would be ok but i didn't want to go through the trouble if it wasn't.
gtompkins48
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Sorry that you faced hostility for asking this question. As you've probably noticed, it's pretty impossible to have any type of discussion on this thread without getting attacked by self-appointed white knights. Contrary to what others said, I dont think there is a clear answer to this question and discussion of it should be allowed.
It is difficult to talk about hacked pokemon without causing an uproar because many people are opposed to it based on the perceived "morality" of it all. I personally don't take pokemon seriously enough to care what other people do with their own games. My main issue is with badly hacked pokemon that ruin the post game. I also think that the game is more fun and fulfilling if played clean.
Unfortunately, the only way to truly solve the hacking problem would be to not allow transferring at all. I wouldnt mind this solution, as long as the game made every pokemon available in some way. X and Y only have around 120 unobtainable pokemon, so GameFreak could have gone in this direction if they wanted to. Obviously, they did not want to deal with the backlash from the fanbase. Also, transferring is the only part of the pokemon bank that is attractive to non-hardcore fans.
I have no doubt that the hack check will be a huge improvement over past ones, especially since every one so far has been a complete joke. This will at least get the poorly-made hacks out of circulation. However, a Pokemon's code is just too simple to implement any real, conclusive hack checking. The best we've gotten were the checks done by tournaments, but the main advantage of those were that they banned people who's cartridge had ever been touched by AR. Obviously, the bank's hack check will not do this. The best case scenario will be for it to check the hexidecimal code looking for any abnormalities. Any system other than this will be virtually useless.
The fact remains that it is far too easy to hack pokemon with a hexidecimal code that's indistinguishable from the real thing. If the code is exactly the same, what are the chances of it being detected? Zero. The only way to find out would be magic. It used to be that PokeSav pokemon had a missing piece of code, but even that has been fixed. This is especially true with pokemon from Gen IV that were made with the wild pokemon modifier or the shiny code and then transferred over to Gen V. Their code is literally perfect, and the location data was reset. How are they suppossed to accurately detect that?
So thats my opinion on the extensitivity of the hack check. Like I said before, the only way to truly solve the problem would be to ban transfers entirely. I sorta wish they would do this but that will never happen. It's been kinda nice playing X and Y knowing that every pokemon was real.
Now i'm sure that I'll be insulted for saying this and have my post cherry picked for any possible flaw. If you want to discuss the actual logic of what I'm saying thats fine, but any childish or insulting responses will be ignored. Pokemon Bank is too insignificant of a topic to spend my whole night arguing about.
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My concern so far is that I will not be able to take my Scizor, Assassin, to X/Y. Why? The nickname Assassin is not allowed in X/Y's naming scheme, and I can't trade her back to FireRed to rename her. Hoping I can get a free re-name, or even just turning the name back to plain Scizor.
It's not going to block names. It's only going to block hacked Pokemon.
Is that confirmed? It would be odd that I could transfer a Pokemon nick named Assassin, but could not name a new one Assassin.
Haunter ゴースト
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True, guess you'll have to wait and find out - although i'm sure it'll be fine.
Worst case scenario it renames it, just like when you upload it to the GTS.
Puma Italia
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This may have already been mentioned, but would you first upload your Pokemon and transfer from Pokemon Bank? Or will the two be completely separate?
randomspot555
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thepinguins
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Agreed, as my previous pokemon games weren't played for Competitive as I would mostly never play Versus on the internet. With X and Y, though, I've gone full throttle and have EV trained pokemon and made teams for Competitive. Shame I'll be more restricted (In a way) when PokeTransfer comes around :c
randomspot555
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You're implying that they already have worth. There are people already who can simple trade them to another game as soon as they get them. Bank will make this easier for people with only one game, but it's not going to change a whole lot.
Neo_Mametchi
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I'm curious to see how good the hacked pokemon filter will be. Like for shiny pokemon. All u had to do was use a shiny code for wild encounters. I wonder if it will be able to detect that. You'd think it would probably let them slide through since they weren't cheated on directly.
I'm also wondering if legit pokemon that were hacked to add something like a move they can't learn or pokerus then have it removed before sending will still be blocked.
I'm also wondering if legit pokemon that were hacked to add something like a move they can't learn or pokerus then have it removed before sending will still be blocked.
I have worries not on the program but on the legitimacy of trades. I pesonally have not nor will hack/altr mons but can any one be sure that pokes they got in trade being told there legit are actully legit? I did a lot of tradeing back in black2 for some god IVs or old hard to get pokes, only way I can check currently is trying to it them up on GTS of B/W. Would really suck If they fail the new bank program considering any one who traded under the same basis of thinking is good just to lose what you traded for but also what they traded with.
randomspot555
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A hacked Pokemon is defined as one that is hacked. Both of your cases you cite are hacked Pokemon. Now if they actually fall outside of the legal boundaries of the game, or more precisely, the legal boundaries the Bank checks for, is a whole other question.
And like the other several dozen times this question has been asked, it is unknown and Game Freak/Nintendo isn't going to release details of any legality check, Bank or otherwise.
Any legality check should just do the check. It doesn't matter if you got it through a trade or not and there really shouldn't be a trade exemption or whatever.
It still takes a while to play through the game to get those legendaries, so I don't see people spending days filling up boxes of them.
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