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Pokémon Direct - September 4th - Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Pokémon Generation VI Discussion' started by Serebii, Sep 4, 2013.

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  1. Draknir

    Draknir Fear the Deer

    While it is technically extortion, the Pokemon Bank is not solely to transfer old Pokemon. You get more than that, so a minimal fee each year is not that bad.

    I believe the main name for the fee is that servers cost a lot of money. Rather than pay for them with the money generated by X and Y, which will dwindle over time, the best option is to ask for a fee from the people who are using it. Also, the service is going to be used for Generations to come. Its not like this will end after Gen VI.

    Believe me, they could be worse. Imagine if you had a five dollar fee each month or you had an annual sixty dollar fee just to use the Pokemon Bank.
  2. Chris-kun

    Chris-kun i still believe

    Well you're being charged for the cloud. Don't you think that if there was a free way to transfer that Gamefreak would have done it? Why do you just assume there's a free easy way to do it without this cloud service, which is what's actually costing you money not the transfer feature. Gamefreak over the years have been very good about not charging when they don't have to, they've never charged for events they've never had "DLC," hell, they didn't charge for the wireless adaptor that came with FRLG or the Pokewalker, as far as I remember. The charge is for the cloud service, the transfer feature just requires it because maybe, just maybe, there's not another way to do it because of hardware limitations or software limitations.
  3. Bramblefire

    Bramblefire Aura Guardian

    Then there should be no problem with the transfer. If anything, the transfer is a feature of the Bank not the game, and is free in of itself. If they charged for the Pokemon Transporter as well, then I'd agree with you.
  4. Ditto24

    Ditto24 Well-Known Member

    In all fairness though is there really anything else they could have done? I imagine it's cost alot for them to have this Bank set up and to keep it afloat for however long they need to. They will have to make something off of it. Plus GF didn't have to make it so you can transfer them, $5 a year to keep you $40 copy of B/W/B2/W2 alive is a pretty decent trade off imo.
  5. King Shuckle

    King Shuckle Don't be daft

    "Shell out?" If you have issues gathering $5 a year, the last thing you should be doing is buying a $40 Pokemon game. You should spend that money on figuring out why you can't afford $5 a year.
  6. Chris-kun

    Chris-kun i still believe


    5 dollars vs. 130/160/190 for a second 2/3DS
  7. Reiji Kurosaky

    Reiji Kurosaky Well-Known Member

    Doubtful. How can there be hardware limitations when the 3DS is more capable than the DS. How can there be software limitations when GF has been doing it for the past 15 years?

    I am pretty sure (although just speculation) that there will be a cloudless way to transfer pokémon, just that they will be 6 at a time instead of 450 in a single try.
  8. Bolt the Cat

    Bolt the Cat Bringing the Thunder

    Could they not simply make a free version that has only transfer features and not cloud features? That's the only part of this that needs to be free.

    It's a compatibility issue. They said back at E3 that they were having trouble with transfers because of some sort of technical limitation that prevents DS and 3DS games from communicating with each other.
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  9. ShikabaneHime13

    ShikabaneHime13 Well-Known Member

    My sentiments exactly! People are jumping the gun before they get all their facts straight. I think the fee is reasonable. Had they said per month, then I might be a little iffy, but annual is much better and straightforward
  10. Citizen Insane

    Citizen Insane Eh, life is a game.

    It's not about affording, it is about the principle of SPENDING your money. Some people would rather spend their 5$ on something else ya know and they are entitled to share their opinions. Don't compare spendig money on Pokémon Bank with an actual Pokémon game, it somehow doesn't make any sense.
  11. DSDark

    DSDark Breeder

    There seems to be some confusion on both the pokemon bank and poke transporter.

    Pokemon Bank is a cloud base storage system where you store your pokemon in your own personal bank. Pokemon will be uploaded to the cloud from a pokemon bank application that will be downloaded from eshop on December 25th in Japan (other dates are unknown at this time). When first released there will be a free trail period where you can access all of pokemon bank without the annual fee. After the trail period end there will be a required annual fee. Pokemon bank is only accessed through pokemon x and y

    Pokemon transporter is a completely free application also for the 3DS, that will download alongside pokemon bank. This application is used to transfer pokemon from BW and BW2 to your pokemon bank cloud storage. Pokemon transporter is only used by Generation 5 games and does not directly communicate with the 3DS version of pokemon bank.
  12. Akashin

    Akashin Well-Known Member

    Except this transfer feature depends upon the cloud feature; you can't have one without the other here. Making a free version of that probably wouldn't be viable.

    Oh, really? Disregard above comment then; thanks for the clarification.
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  13. Lucario At Service

    Lucario At Service Calm Trainer

    One question, does a pokemon born from a egg whose parents were Hacked Pokemon is considered a Legitimate or a Illegitimate pokemons (i.e., a baby pokemon whose stats weren't messed with but its parents stats were).
  14. PMG

    PMG Pokemon Master Gaz

    I wonder if yearly subscribers will get special Pokémon events?

    debatable really as the pokemon is from 2 hacks but is created by the game the only way to tell for sure is try to transfer it
  15. thetamale

    thetamale Well-Known Member

    I've been asking this question for several pages but people are still arguing about £3.
  16. Kyubeon

    Kyubeon Legendary Master

    hmm I checked this out but I didn't really find anything to help my question. I kno theyre hacked as I hacked them but I only shiny hack. location, moves, etc are all natural so im curious if itll detect them.
  17. Kyubeon

    Kyubeon Legendary Master

    idk im not getting to much useful feedback either
  18. Akashin

    Akashin Well-Known Member

    I'd guess illegal, because otherwise a Hidden Ability Snivy born from an illegal female one would be considered legit. Don't take my word for it, though.
  19. Kratos The Pokemon master

    Kratos The Pokemon master Well-Known Member

    But it says on the main Serebii page that : "Poké Transporter comes when you purchase Pokémon Bank."

    I'm really hoping for PokeTransporter to be free.

    I think we might need confirmation from a source about this matter.
  20. EverChanger

    EverChanger エヴァーチェンジャー

    I'm pretty sure that it would be let through, purely because it would not appear as hacked. The only scenario I can think of is if it had its Hidden Ability bred onto it when none of its possible parents were available with their Hidden Abilities.

    EDIT: Also, the only way to directly cross-reference the parents would be to store the parents' data with the child, which would basically triple the size of the Pokémon. It'd get even bigger if you start to track grandparents, and that'd get really big, really fast. So basically, a Pokémon cannot be considered illegal purely based on the fact that its parents are illegal.
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