Pokémon HeartGold/SoulSilver General Discussion Thread

[R_N]

I'm sure it will be lucas and dawn or somone would have found hibki and katone's avatars and thus would have known HGSS was coming.

I think he means on the HGSS end, not the DPt end.

 

[halloweenghost]

I think he means on the HGSS end, not the DPt end.

Well there are lucas and dawn sprites in HGSS for that but I've not seen lucas and dawn's platinum sprites.

 

[Brandon96]

thanks but i meant sugimori art not sprites

Ah, sorry, I don't know if there are any, though I think I remember someone mentioning the there is one of Bugsy somewhere.

 

[R_N]

Ah, sorry, I don't know if there are any, though I think I remember someone mentioning the there is one of Bugsy somewhere.

Yeah, Bugsy is the only one we've seen, and that's just because he was in the manual. Hopefully the official site will be updated with them soon enough.

Still find it odd that Oak didn't get an updated art considering he got a new suit, if only for the intro of the game.

 

[Juputoru]

Man, GF is determined to cram everything in the history of the games into HGSS, aren't they? The Safari Zone is back(which is nice, I suppose...although I hate having to catch anything in those things), you can get one starter from each region except Shinou(gee, I wonder why?!?), you can get almost every non-event, non-Shinou Legendary using a combo of HG and SS(and you can still get Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina if you get the event Arceus!), you can change Rotom forms without an event item(although that obviously had to happen eventually, or else they'd have to pretend the various Rotom forms never existed), there's the Battle Frontier(faithfully copied and pasted from Platinum. I'm sure that took so much effort to get into HGSS.), there are contests the Pokethlon thingamabobs...now we'll get the relatively bare-bones initial versions for Gen 5 and be completely disappointed.

Although I guess the ridiculous legend/starter availability makes sense, since it's the era of the DSripoff...I mean, DSi now, and they have to make sure kids still want to buy the shiny new DSi. If they needed the GBA games to get all those legendaries & starters, then kids might buy the *gasp* DSlite! And we can't have that, now can we?

 

[BCVM22]

So... the point is that you're looking high and low for something to dump on but just can't find anything?

 

[R_N]

Although I guess the ridiculous legend/starter availability makes sense, since it's the era of the DSripoff...I mean, DSi now, and they have to make sure kids still want to buy the shiny new DSi. If they needed the GBA games to get all those legendaries & starters, then kids might buy the *gasp* DSlite! And we can't have that, now can we?

Or (GASP) they want to round out the remainder of the pokemon not available between D & P when they first came out (lollllzzzzz before the DSi).
Besides with the GBA dead, new fans would probably not get them regardless.

 

[greywolf123]

It seems to be the case for sure. Though I never really understood what complaining did, especially since most of the most outspoken ones are the ones who will buy it first thing. Interesting.

 

[Mario with Lasers]

So... the point is that you're looking high and low for something to dump on but just can't find anything?

Seems so.


And I guess it's been asked already, but did anyone find that "white rock" in Kanto Oak talked about in Platinum, or was it just a "red herring" (in the most comprehensive meaning of the word)?

 

[Chimchar15]

Yeah, Bugsy is the only one we've seen, and that's just because he was in the manual. Hopefully the official site will be updated with them soon enough.

Still find it odd that Oak didn't get an updated art considering he got a new suit, if only for the intro of the game.

The site should be updated tonight or tomorrow.

 

[mitchman_93]

Serebii can you give us maybe the text in the notebook so we can translate it? Also the Brock thing could be our clue. Maybe Surge wants a thunder Fang Rhydon so he can have an element of surprise. MoL Oak was a lying *******.

 

[Chimchar15]

Man, GF is determined to cram everything in the history of the games into HGSS, aren't they? The Safari Zone is back(which is nice, I suppose...although I hate having to catch anything in those things), you can get one starter from each region except Shinou(gee, I wonder why?!?), you can get almost every non-event, non-Shinou Legendary using a combo of HG and SS(and you can still get Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina if you get the event Arceus!), you can change Rotom forms without an event item(although that obviously had to happen eventually, or else they'd have to pretend the various Rotom forms never existed), there's the Battle Frontier(faithfully copied and pasted from Platinum. I'm sure that took so much effort to get into HGSS.), there are contests the Pokethlon thingamabobs...now we'll get the relatively bare-bones initial versions for Gen 5 and be completely disappointed.

Although I guess the ridiculous legend/starter availability makes sense, since it's the era of the DSripoff...I mean, DSi now, and they have to make sure kids still want to buy the shiny new DSi. If they needed the GBA games to get all those legendaries & starters, then kids might buy the *gasp* DSlite! And we can't have that, now can we?

What about Pal Park? Last time I checked you can't use that on DSi.

 

[Cobalt_Latios]

Although I guess the ridiculous legend/starter availability makes sense, since it's the era of the DSripoff...I mean, DSi now, and they have to make sure kids still want to buy the shiny new DSi. If they needed the GBA games to get all those legendaries & starters, then kids might buy the *gasp* DSlite! And we can't have that, now can we?

I never really made a proper educated thought about that, but now that I think of it, it seems to be. You've pretty much summed it up.

Is it bad that I'm actually contemplating on getting a DSi because of this, even though I don't really need it?

edit:

What about Pal Park? Last time I checked you can't use that on DSi.

It's for those of us that know of the existence of the GBA versions and still use them to some extent.

<C_L>

 

[R_N]

Seems so.


And I guess it's been asked already, but did anyone find that "white rock" in Kanto Oak talked about in Platinum, or was it just a "red herring" (in the most comprehensive meaning of the word)?

Roark also threw one out, "hinting" at there being an underground in Kanto/Johto. Unless he was talking about the one path in Kanto and the Whirl Islands, but I doubt it.

 

[shining-Celebi]

I love Celebi's sprite haha, so much less static than the others!

Joe, also please make a calendar of events.

 

[BCVM22]

Is it bad that I'm actually contemplating on getting a DSi because of this, even though I don't really need it?

I would say spending $180 on anything you don't really need is bad at least to some degree.

It's for those of us that know of the existence of the GBA versions and still use them to some extent.

So... if you don't know that Pokémon has games on the GBA, you aren't allowed to use Pal Park?

Pal Park is there because slowly phasing out dependence on the 3rd gen titles doesn't mean they've all magically disappeared nor does the release of the DSi and its production alongside the Lite mean that all of the world's Lite units have spontaneously combusted.

 

[Bleh]

Roark also threw one out, "hinting" at there being an underground in Kanto/Johto. Unless he was talking about the one path in Kanto and the Whirl Islands, but I doubt it.

That makes me wonder what would happen if someone hacked in the Explorer Kit and used it.

 

[Omnitheo]

Man, GF is determined to cram everything in the history of the games into HGSS, aren't they? The Safari Zone is back(which is nice, I suppose...although I hate having to catch anything in those things), you can get one starter from each region except Shinou(gee, I wonder why?!?), you can get almost every non-event, non-Shinou Legendary using a combo of HG and SS(and you can still get Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina if you get the event Arceus!), you can change Rotom forms without an event item(although that obviously had to happen eventually, or else they'd have to pretend the various Rotom forms never existed), there's the Battle Frontier(faithfully copied and pasted from Platinum. I'm sure that took so much effort to get into HGSS.), there are contests the Pokethlon thingamabobs...now we'll get the relatively bare-bones initial versions for Gen 5 and be completely disappointed.

Although I guess the ridiculous legend/starter availability makes sense, since it's the era of the DSripoff...I mean, DSi now, and they have to make sure kids still want to buy the shiny new DSi. If they needed the GBA games to get all those legendaries & starters, then kids might buy the *gasp* DSlite! And we can't have that, now can we?

It's a sign that this is the end of the generation. Gen 3 managed to get all existing pokemon available by the end of the gen by making FR/LG and adding in areas with johto pkmn.

Gen 4 has managed to include all pokemon without using gen 3

 

[BCVM22]

That makes me wonder what would happen if someone hacked in the Explorer Kit and used it.

...

Likely nothing. It's rather unlikely that they programmed the entire Underground in there and then nonchalantly decided to scrap it.

 

[Mario with Lasers]

Roark also threw one out, "hinting" at there being an underground in Kanto/Johto. Unless he was talking about the one path in Kanto and the Whirl Islands, but I doubt it.

I guess it being Kanto and Johto will be back in 5th--


So. I guess Roark really just wants to being the underground to Kanto/Johto, but he has a long way ahead... But seriously, I want to know about this white rock. What if it's an event-only area (related to that Rock Capsule)? I wonder when we will get any confirmation of that.