Pokémon Ratings (BW:DA! returns to top 10)

[Alfred the Second]

You act like no new kids are born. The majority of those ratings come from new 6-11 year olds first getting into pokemon now.

And you know how Japanese rating system work, right?

 

[k6666]

that great news
now i wonder is the rating back because DA ?

 

[Eievui-Nymphia]

Good news for Pokémon Best Wishes Season 2: DA!, the anime returns to the top 10 after 4 week absence.

Episode: The Pirate Kings of the Decolora Archipelago! aired on June 6, 2013.

1. Sazae-san: 17,3
2. Chibi Maruko-chan: 10,3
3. Doraemon: 9,7
4. Crayon Shin-chan: 8,1
5. One Piece: 7,9
6. Detective Conan: 7,2
7. Dokidoki! Precure: 5,5
8. Toriko: 4,9
9. Pokémon Best Wishes! Season 2: 4,0
10. Curious George: 4,0
11. Uchū Kyōdai: 4,0


Pokémon is still highest rated anime on TV Tokyo and I didn't know Curious George (which counts as "animation") was so popular in Japan lol

Hopefully the Butterfree episode had nice ratings as well.

If you really know what happened when Pokemon is outside of the Top 10

Ratings don't really matter for Pokemon anyway.

Ratings matter if the show are dropping viewers too quickly.

Pokémon is still doing great, I mean top 10 over a sea of animation in Japan. I was really worried because Pokémon spent a whole month out of the top 10 but I suppose it was between 11-15 frame all that time, there's only top 10 info.

There are other popular shows like Hunter X Hunter and Naruto Shippuden below top 10 and they're still going on.

Merchandising and selling stuff is also key.

Hopefully X & Y hype will get Pokémon into the top 10 until 6 gen anime premieres in October.

I really hope that Alexa brings back Pokemon into the Top 10, because the ratings of DA could be classified to being average at best

Sazae-san is a family show that's been running for 30+ years, and can be described as a mix of The Simpsons and Peanuts. Cute, innocent fun for the entire family. It gets the ratings it does because everyone watches it. Nothing can compete with that, and definitely not animated toy commercials aimed at 6-10 year olds.
"Lower rated shows" survive because they're still getting a lot of viewers.

I agree on the Sazae-san comparison. They aren't comparable.

In this day and age, broadcast television is nowhere near as popular as in the past, which is the reason for the "falling ratings", not anything the show itself does. And even if it was, 4,0% are still amazing ratings most shows would kill to get. Pokemon is doing very well, and sitting there comparing ratings from years ago, looking at exact positions on some top 10 list... is just doing it wrong. Pokemon is up in the position it's always had, it's doing as well as always compared to other shows, and it's not getting "low ratings" in any meaning of the word. But sitting there and complaining about "how the show is doing badly" just shows you don't understand these lists.

Not, Dephender, the 4.0 ratings is the best of the rating that the show has gotten since April. The ratings starting April aren't good. And they are a it gimmicky with the game promotion of Alexa right now. I don't really imagine if the promotion happens with the DA ratings.
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You know absolutely nothing about ratings if you think that's true. Pokemon doesn't rely on ratings, it mainly relies on merchandising. The writers could care less about ratings as long as their merchandise continues to turn a heavy profit. Even then the ratings for the show in this day and age are still incredibly good.

Yeah, this is why I see the writers worried and doing some things that I'm sure if Pokemon had ratings of 6 they didn't do.

The writers aren't marketing this show to grown adults on an Internet forum, they're marketing it to children

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Mainly to children, but true.

Even then ratings don't measure certain statistics of viewers anyway. Pokemon measures increments of viewers ages 6-11, 9-14, 2-11, 7-13 and 2-13 and most on this forums aren't in that target audience.

I have serious doubts that the rating inside the target audience are increasing. If the show is dropping 33% of the ratings in one gen, I see a 25% drop in target audience.

Sometimes I wonder if fans do any form of research I do before they make concocted, cooked up fallacious claims and conspiracy theories. Like Dephender said, most fans don't know if there0's me, I disagree what the hell they're talking about anyway.

When Charmed says hype, he means "on the forum" which doesn't a thing.

Some of the things that I saw aren't hyped solely by the fandom. The fandom doesn't make false re-joining the cast, false leaving, overhyping arcs like Episode N and (in a lesser way) do things to promote the games that for me is gimmicky. That is hyped by the fandom, yeah.

Ratings may not be as relevant as some people think, but they still are useful to have an idea of how the show is received.

As long as the games and toys sell, ratings don't really matter.

I thinks that ratings are a important regarding the anime.

that great news
now i wonder is the rating back because DA ?

Sorry, DA has bad ratings (N have average.good ratiungs except the last 3 episodes).
Since tyhe start of April the ratings have been (and I checked them):
Episode N Climax: 3,2; 3.9; 4:
Decolora Adventures: 4; 3.1; 4.2; 3.4; (*); 2.8; 4.
Where I found this? I found this in a thread of 2ch that talks about TV Tokyo ratings. However, I can't post any rating, which means that I can't go easily to the page.
http://anago.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/tvsaloon/1357189745/

I don't think that the ratings are horrible (because they aren't). But those ratings are bad for Pokemon. It doesn't mean that the show is in danger with those ratings (specially in a filler arc). Specially if it'0s the 1st rated anime of TV Tokyo.

Also there is a reason of why XY (yes, the games) are being so hyped. And not only by the fandom. And I predi8ct that the XY anime will be very very hyped. Way more than BW has hyped back in 2010.

(and I talked about a Game Freak game, something that have resiste well compared to the side-series; compare the last Mystery Dungeon with the rest).

My opinion is that the anime is "delicate" right now. The anime is still a relatively successful, the franchise is making money, but the franchise has problems that other tops show don't have. And the franchise doesn't had them untiul early 2012.

 

[Haunter ゴースト]

...It was Charizard's return episode. Tons of Charizard merchandise was released leading up to that episode and Charizard's return itself was hinted to in several Episode N posters. I may have been wrong about Charizard not returning before, but I think it's obvious that there was a lot of hype for that episode; even if it hadn't been Ash's Charizard, you cannot deny that there was a lot of hype, moreso than the Ampharos episode or any other Episode N filler received. It's low rating is unfortunate, but at least it shows that fan service doesn't always work.

Saying "Lizardon returns... at some point. Maybe. Well, it'll be in the movie, at least" is not "creating hype for one specific episode".

Hmm.

To be completely fair, the episode did get a lot of hype, but not in the sense you're talking about Dephender.

The hype Charmed is likely referring to is the general hype of fans seeing things that relate to the episode (Charizard Valley on Smash, the Episode N poster, Movie 16 poster etc.).

 

[Caseydia]

So what if Pokémon is higher than it was before? It's because of current fan service. But I would never put Pokémon over One Piece or even some of the others regarding rating just because of that. It always goes up and down depending on what the writers do. However it's sad that the league got the lowest ratings while Da which is nothing but a Kanto hogging filler series.

 

[Janovy]

Pokémon will never die, it's as simple as that.

 

[Lorde]

So what if Pokémon is higher than it was before? It's because of current fan service. But I would never put Pokémon over One Piece or even some of the others regarding rating just because of that. It always goes up and down depending on what the writers do. However it's sad that the league got the lowest ratings while Da which is nothing but a Kanto hogging filler series.

The episode that was cited on the first post (the Croconaw episode) wasn't fan service though, which makes its high rating a mystery. I don't know what kids saw in that episode; I personally thought it was all right, but there are better DA fillers episodes than that one imo. This anime's ratings are always weird though; too inconsistent most of the time.

But yassss @ King George slaying the ratings even across the ocean. I had no idea CG was that popular.

 

[Matsuyamakun]

Bw ratings are lower than other series.Most of people agree that BW Ash was the weakest compared to other series.Ratings dropped a lot after terrible Unova League ends.Then Ash remembered everything, winning all battles.He even remembered his Charmander's story which happened 15 years ago.Charizard returned because of low BW ratings.We saw Butterfree episode last week.Most of kids don't even know them.They're not marketing this show to only children.

Yeah, but I agree that ratings don't really matter because Gamefreak make awesome Pokemon games for DS, 3DS.
There is no doubt XY games will sell a lot.Thats why pokemon anime still continues.

 

[LizardonX]

If BW is 4.0 I bet XY will sink to 3.5 after the initial newness wears off after it turns out its just more of the same.

 

[diakyu]

Pokémon will never die, it's as simple as that.

It really is. Pokemon, unlike most other franchises, has a lot of space to die down in. Pokemon is a massive franchise and it won't just die. It's the same for the games and the anime.

 

[CyberCubed]

If BW is 4.0 I bet XY will sink to 3.5 after the initial newness wears off after it turns out its just more of the same.

Well if the pattern holds true that will be.

This is probably why Ash's newer travel companions aren't as well known or popular as the early ones, ratings show that people were clearly watching the anime much more during Kanto, Johto and AG. If people aren't watching the later seasons as much their viewership is less.

Amazing that AG's ratings in retrospect were fairly good because the fad of pokemon was all but dead by then. May and the Hoenn cast just barely squeezed through while more people were watching.

 

[Lorde]

If BW is 4.0 I bet XY will sink to 3.5 after the initial newness wears off after it turns out its just more of the same.

Truth tea has been served imo. I mean I'm glad that Pokemon is still the highest rated anime on the network, but the ratings will continue to free fall because the plot and structure of the anime never changes, among other reasons. And ratings are important. If the anime can't bring in good ratings, it'll be cancelled and then Nintendo would have to figure out another way to promote the games.

 

[diakyu]

but the ratings will continue to free fall because the plot and structure of the anime never changes, among other reasons.

But what you're forgetting is that new fans of Pokemon are always being made. New children start watching the show who are not familiar with the anime's structure. Old fans leave and new fans come to take their place.

 

[Honeyichigo]

Truth tea has been served imo. I mean I'm glad that Pokemon is still the highest rated anime on the network, but the ratings will continue to free fall because the plot and structure of the anime never changes, among other reasons. And ratings are important. If the anime can't bring in good ratings, it'll be cancelled and then Nintendo would have to figure out another way to promote the games.

As we've been over repeatedly in this very thread, there are multiple reasons for the dropping ratings, most of which have nothing to do with the content of the show itself.

 

[pokemon fan 132]

Its nice to see that Pokemon even now after 16 years and despite all mistakes made from writers staff is still enough popular to be sort among top 10 watched anime in Japan. That's pretty good success in itself showing how there are still enough people out there willing to get up early in morning and follow this episodes. Arguably anime is living partially on its older glory too with good chunk of olfer fandom still following or being tuned within episodes from time to time when something raises their interest.
Such as flux of unexpected revival of iconic, massively popular older things like Charizard, throwback to nostalgic Butterfree, ending with all Ash friends and rivals, Clair etc.

That said i agree with those in this thread who say how regardless of recent good news current formula isn't working perfectly fine when ratings and series popularity are constantly in decline with no real progress of main protagonists constantly regressing in growth, constant change of main characters leaving them unfinished and abandoned eventually and quite scarse continuity and shallow plot not being most optimal way to develop devotedness among viewers and ensure for series to remain successful long time in future. Explaining why empty places left by older fans aren't filled at same speed like they used to be in better, brighter days when show consistently had over 6.0 or 9.0 rating percentage.

Writers aren't doing best they could imo nor same approach can work forever. But than again marketing was always primary focus in pokemon franchise and regardless of show decline, games are still incredibly popular.

So as long games give profit, its safe to say pokemon will continue to prosper and exist. However to have healthy and strong franchise its also desirable that other media like anime lives up to standards other parts of franchise generates which certainly wouldn't and can't hurt only helping in promotion being more successful along with increasing its reputation.

 

[Janovy]

Results of Bandai's Annual Survey On Favorite Character/Series

Japanese toy company Bandai reported this year's result of its annual survey "Who is your children's favorite character?" on its official site on June 20. The survey was conducted among 800 Japanese parents who have 0-12 year old children between April 19 and 22. No surprise again, Takashi Yanase's Anpanman, a hero with an edible head made of "pan" (bread) that is filled with "an" (red bean paste), took the first place in the overall ranking for 12 consecutive years since 2002 when the survey began.

Last year's second winner in the combined ranking, PreCure also defeated Kamen Rider and Pokémon/Pocket Monster again. The long-running magical (fighting, actually?) girl series of course topped the girl's favorite character ranking.

*The question of the survey itself said "character," but the answerers chose the "series" or "title" featuring
their kids' favorite characters.

1. "Anpanman" (12.5%)
2. "PreCure" (10.6%)
3. Pokémon/Pocket Monster (8.1%)
4. "Doraemon" (5.6%)
5. "Kamen Rider" (5.1%)
6. "Thomas and Friends" (4.3%)
7. "One Piece" (4.1%)
8. Super Sentai series (3.1%)
9. "Rilakkuma"　(3.0%)
10. "Aikatsu!" (2.8%)

Pokémon gets third place overall and the first place in:

Boy's ranking Top 5
1. Pokémon
2. Anpanman
3. Kamen Rider
4. Doraemon/Thomas and Friends
5. Super Sentai

So I guess this speaks a lot about Pokémon's popularity.

 

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Results of Bandai's Annual Survey On Favorite Character/Series



1. "Anpanman" (12.5%)
2. "PreCure" (10.6%)
3. Pokémon/Pocket Monster (8.1%)
4. "Doraemon" (5.6%)
5. "Kamen Rider" (5.1%)
6. "Thomas and Friends" (4.3%)
7. "One Piece" (4.1%)
8. Super Sentai series (3.1%)
9. "Rilakkuma"　(3.0%)
10. "Aikatsu!" (2.8%)

Pokémon gets third place overall and the first place in:

Boy's ranking Top 5
1. Pokémon
2. Anpanman
3. Kamen Rider
4. Doraemon/Thomas and Friends
5. Super Sentai

So I guess this speaks a lot about Pokémon's popularity.

Pokemon is dying dood

 

[LizardonX]

Results of Bandai's Annual Survey On Favorite Character/Series



1. "Anpanman" (12.5%)
2. "PreCure" (10.6%)
3. Pokémon/Pocket Monster (8.1%)
4. "Doraemon" (5.6%)
5. "Kamen Rider" (5.1%)
6. "Thomas and Friends" (4.3%)
7. "One Piece" (4.1%)
8. Super Sentai series (3.1%)
9. "Rilakkuma"　(3.0%)
10. "Aikatsu!" (2.8%)

Pokémon gets third place overall and the first place in:

Boy's ranking Top 5
1. Pokémon
2. Anpanman
3. Kamen Rider
4. Doraemon/Thomas and Friends
5. Super Sentai

So I guess this speaks a lot about Pokémon's popularity.

The games are far better than the anime. It helps a lot.

 

[Blue Saturday]

As stated multiple times with logic, ratings really aren't a big deal. Even then Pokemon's ratings are incredibly good and rating dropping for anime(Naruto, One Piece, etc.) over the years is natural progression among a trend that's perfectly normal. The Pokemon anime is healthy and doing find, trying to find conspiracy theories on why you think it's failing and spreading false info for your own gain is just childish.

 

[RickHoenn]

Pokémon is a pop culture icon! Yay!