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Pokémon Sun & Moon Discovery Discussion Thread [Contains Story Spoilers]

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Sulfurian

Well-Known Member
So I've heard that eviolite was nerfed. If this is the case I'm gonna be pissed. Eviolite let you use non-fully evolved pokemon like porygon 2 and lickitung.

Why are they nerfing so many things when this game series only has updates every 3-4 years to buff or nerf things. This is ridiculous. Nerfing a few things because they're too strong is one thing, but nerfing things because they have a "vision" for that certain meta is another

I think the competitive scene went too far into the Devs heads so now they think they can just mass buff/nerf things like an actual esport like league of legends or hearthstone. WELL YOU GUYS NEVER DO "PATCH NOTES" or "RECEIVE FEEDBACK" you just nerf things because Pokémon is so big now you can get away with it. Duck you.
 

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
So I've heard that eviolite was nerfed. If this is the case I'm gonna be pissed. Eviolite let you use non-fully evolved pokemon like porygon 2 and lickitung.

Why are they nerfing so many things when this game series only has updates every 3-4 years to buff or nerf things. This is ridiculous. Nerfing a few things because they're too strong is one thing, but nerfing things because they have a "vision" for that certain meta is another

I think the competitive scene went too far into the Devs heads so now they think they can just mass buff/nerf things like an actual esport like league of legends or hearthstone. WELL YOU GUYS NEVER DO "PATCH NOTES" or "RECEIVE FEEDBACK" you just nerf things because Pokémon is so big now you can get away with it. Duck you.

As many others pointed out they want to end stall for good.
 

Pyrax

The Ghost of Tsushima
Notable Lv. 60+ trainers other than the aforementioned/revealed...

• Anabel (as in, Battle Frontier. How long are they going to keep that tease hanging?)

I wonder what this means for the other Frontier Brains. I don't see Cynthia or Wally anywhere either, plus there seem to be placeholders on that list. I'm remaining hopeful that the actual roster is PWT-level.
 

Pokemon Fan

Knuckle Trainer
Alola Pokémon don't seem to be very fast bar Tapu Koko and Salazzle....
Indeed, there are a lot of slow to below average speed pokemon this generation. Makes me wonder if some of the new moves are meant to help slow pokemon.
 

phanpycross

God-king
Also can we talk about Lusamine, specifically how OP her team comes off as lol
Or that freaking Bewear of all things is her ace?
 

Creyk

Well-Known Member
The Eviolite nerf is fake
There were no receipts posted with it and a faker guy said that who then disappeared
 

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
129 - Pokémon Professor Kukui
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Pokemon: 6
Lycanroc (Lv. 57) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Stone Edge/Accelerock/Crunch/Stealth Rock) IVs: 31/31/31/15/15/31 EVs: 0/252/0/0/0/252
Ninetales (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Dazzling Gleam/Blizzard/Ice Shard/Safeguard) IVs: 31/15/15/31/31/31 EVs: 0/0/0/252/0/252
Braviary (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Crush Claw/Brave Bird/Whirlwind/Tailwind) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/31 EVs: 252/0/0/0/0/252
Magnezone (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Thunderbolt/Flash Cannon/Thunder Wave/Mirror Coat) IVs: 31/15/31/31/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/252/0/0
Snorlax (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Body Slam/Crunch/Heavy Slam/High Horsepower) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/0/252/0
Incineroar (Lv. 58) @Firium Z (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Flare Blitz/Darkest Lariat/Outrage/Cross Chop) IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 EVs: 252/252/0/0/0/0

413 - Pokémon Professor Kukui
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Pokemon: 6
Lycanroc (Lv. 57) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Stone Edge/Accelerock/Crunch/Stealth Rock) IVs: 31/31/31/15/15/31 EVs: 0/252/0/0/0/252
Ninetales (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Dazzling Gleam/Blizzard/Ice Shard/Safeguard) IVs: 31/15/15/31/31/31 EVs: 0/0/0/252/0/252
Braviary (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Crush Claw/Brave Bird/Whirlwind/Tailwind) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/31 EVs: 252/0/0/0/0/252
Magnezone (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Thunderbolt/Flash Cannon/Thunder Wave/Mirror Coat) IVs: 31/15/31/31/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/252/0/0
Snorlax (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Body Slam/Crunch/Heavy Slam/High Horsepower) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/0/252/0
Primarina (Lv. 58) @Waterium Z (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Sparkling Aria/Moonblast/Aqua Jet/Hyper Voice) IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 EVs: 0/0/0/252/252/0

413 - Pokémon Professor Kukui
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Pokemon: 6
Lycanroc (Lv. 57) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Stone Edge/Accelerock/Crunch/Stealth Rock) IVs: 31/31/31/15/15/31 EVs: 0/252/0/0/0/252
Ninetales (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Dazzling Gleam/Blizzard/Ice Shard/Safeguard) IVs: 31/15/15/31/31/31 EVs: 0/0/0/252/0/252
Braviary (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Crush Claw/Brave Bird/Whirlwind/Tailwind) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/31 EVs: 252/0/0/0/0/252
Magnezone (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Thunderbolt/Flash Cannon/Thunder Wave/Mirror Coat) IVs: 31/15/31/31/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/252/0/0
Snorlax (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Body Slam/Crunch/Heavy Slam/High Horsepower) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/0/252/0
Primarina (Lv. 58) @Waterium Z (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Sparkling Aria/Moonblast/Aqua Jet/Hyper Voice) IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 EVs: 0/0/0/252/252/0
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414 - Pokémon Professor Kukui
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Pokemon: 6
Lycanroc (Lv. 57) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Stone Edge/Accelerock/Crunch/Stealth Rock) IVs: 31/31/31/15/15/31 EVs: 0/252/0/0/0/252
Ninetales (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Dazzling Gleam/Blizzard/Ice Shard/Safeguard) IVs: 31/15/15/31/31/31 EVs: 0/0/0/252/0/252
Braviary (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Crush Claw/Brave Bird/Whirlwind/Tailwind) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/31 EVs: 252/0/0/0/0/252
Magnezone (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Thunderbolt/Flash Cannon/Thunder Wave/Mirror Coat) IVs: 31/15/31/31/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/252/0/0
Snorlax (Lv. 56) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Body Slam/Crunch/Heavy Slam/High Horsepower) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/0/252/0
Decidueye (Lv. 58) @Grassium Z (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Leaf Blade/Spirit Shackle/Brave Bird/Sucker Punch) IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 EVs: 0/252/0/0/0/252

477 - Pokémon Professor Kukui
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Pokemon: 6
Lycanroc (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Stone Edge/Accelerock/Crunch/Stealth Rock) IVs: 31/31/31/15/15/31 EVs: 0/252/0/0/0/252
Ninetales (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Dazzling Gleam/Blizzard/Ice Shard/Safeguard) IVs: 31/15/15/31/31/31 EVs: 0/0/0/252/0/252
Braviary (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Crush Claw/Brave Bird/Whirlwind/Tailwind) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/31 EVs: 252/0/0/0/0/252
Magnezone (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Thunderbolt/Flash Cannon/Thunder Wave/Mirror Coat) IVs: 31/15/31/31/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/252/0/0
Snorlax (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Body Slam/Crunch/Heavy Slam/High Horsepower) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/0/252/0
Incineroar (Lv. 65) @Firium Z (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Flare Blitz/Darkest Lariat/Outrage/Cross Chop) IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 EVs: 252/252/0/0/0/0
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478 - Pokémon Professor Kukui
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Pokemon: 6
Lycanroc (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Stone Edge/Accelerock/Crunch/Stealth Rock) IVs: 31/31/31/15/15/31 EVs: 0/252/0/0/0/252
Ninetales (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Dazzling Gleam/Blizzard/Ice Shard/Safeguard) IVs: 31/15/15/31/31/31 EVs: 0/0/0/252/0/252
Braviary (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Crush Claw/Brave Bird/Whirlwind/Tailwind) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/31 EVs: 252/0/0/0/0/252
Magnezone (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Thunderbolt/Flash Cannon/Thunder Wave/Mirror Coat) IVs: 31/15/31/31/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/252/0/0
Snorlax (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Body Slam/Crunch/Heavy Slam/High Horsepower) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/0/252/0
Primarina (Lv. 65) @Waterium Z (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Sparkling Aria/Moonblast/Aqua Jet/Hyper Voice) IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 EVs: 0/0/0/252/252/0
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479 - Pokémon Professor Kukui
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Pokemon: 6
Lycanroc (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Stone Edge/Accelerock/Crunch/Stealth Rock) IVs: 31/31/31/15/15/31 EVs: 0/252/0/0/0/252
Ninetales (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Dazzling Gleam/Blizzard/Ice Shard/Safeguard) IVs: 31/15/15/31/31/31 EVs: 0/0/0/252/0/252
Braviary (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Crush Claw/Brave Bird/Whirlwind/Tailwind) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/31 EVs: 252/0/0/0/0/252
Magnezone (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Thunderbolt/Flash Cannon/Thunder Wave/Mirror Coat) IVs: 31/15/31/31/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/252/0/0
Snorlax (Lv. 65) (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Body Slam/Crunch/Heavy Slam/High Horsepower) IVs: 31/15/31/15/31/15 EVs: 252/0/0/0/252/0
Decidueye (Lv. 65) @Grassium Z (Nature: Serious) (Moves: Leaf Blade/Spirit Shackle/Brave Bird/Sucker Punch) IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 EVs: 0/252/0/0/0/252
 
#785 (Tapu Koko): 70/115/85/95/75/130
#786 ([Pink Tapu Koko]): 70/85/75/130/115/95
#787 ([Red Tapu Koko]): 70/130/115/85/95/75
#788 ([Purple Tapu Koko]): 70/75/115/95/130/85
= 570 BST for the above

#789 ([Space Cloud]): 43/29/31/29/31/37 = 200
#790 ([Galaxy Eye]): 43/29/131/29/131/37 = 400

#791 (Solgaleo): 137/137/107/113/89/97
#792 (Lunala): 137/113/89/137/107/97
= 680

#793 (UB-01): 109/53/47/127/131/103
#794 (UB-02 Absorption): 107/139/139/53/53/79
#795 (UB-02 Beauty): 71/137/37/137/37/151
#796 ([UB-## Plugs]): 83/89/71/173/71/83
#797 ([UB-## Pillars]): 97/101/103/107/101/61
#798 ([UB-## Blades]): 59/181/131/59/31/109
#799 ([UB-## Krabs]): 223/101/53/97/53/43
= 570

#800 ([UB-## Crystals]): 97/107/101/127/89/79
= 600

#801 (Magearna): 80/95/115/130/115/65
#802 (Marshadow): 90/125/80/90/90/125
= 600

Haha those placeholders! :D
 
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Frozocrone

Miraculous!
Lycanroc seems to be quite good.
 

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
Last UB might be their leader.
 

Pokemon Fan

Knuckle Trainer
Many Pokémon most become slower upon evolution. Vikavolt is slower than Grubbin...
I'm honestly shocked at how slow Vikavolt is, given its whole "fighter jet" motif. On the upside a lot of these slow pokemon hit like trucks and have decent defense or special defense.

And Pyukumuku, its the slowest pokemon of all isn't it? A speed stat of 5?!
 

Xuxuba

Well-Known Member
I wonder what this means for the other Frontier Brains. I don't see Cynthia or Wally anywhere either, plus there seem to be placeholders on that list. I'm remaining hopeful that the actual roster is PWT-level.
Are we sure that list is real?
 

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
It is posted by the head hacker of this fandom, so yes.
 
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