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Pokémon Sun & Moon Discovery Discussion Thread [Contains Story Spoilers]

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willprogresivo

willprogresivo

Creepy Uncle
hydrosharp_98 said:
Let's not forget that this is a downloaded ROM first and foremost. Secondly, I recall Gamexplain said they asked Nintendo representatives the same question, and were told that the games has been optimised for 2/3DS and NOT the N3DS, which will likely only have slightly improved frame rates.
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I don't think that matters, tho. The game is 100% the same as what you will download from the eShop on the 18th. If it's slow/laggy now, it will be on the 18th as well.
 
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Wingulltrainer

Well-Known Member
Trainer Yusuf said:
Rowlet:
Egg Curse (Chain)
Egg Confuse Ray (available)
Egg Ominous Wind (available)
Egg Haze (available)
Egg Baton Pass (available)
Egg Defog (available)

Litten:
Egg Nasty Plot (available)
Egg Body Slam (available)
Egg Crunch (available)
Egg Fake Out (available)
Egg Revenge (available)
Egg Heat Wave (available)

Popplio:
Egg Charm (available)
Egg Amnesia (available)
Egg Aqua Ring (available)
Egg Aromatic Mist (Smeargle only)
Egg Perish Song (available)
Egg Wonder Room (Tutor, Smeargle only)

Pikipek:
Egg Brave Bird (available)
Egg Boomburst (available)
Egg Mirror Move (available)
Egg Tailwind (available)
Egg Uproar (available)

Yungoos:
Egg Revenge (available)
Egg Last Resort (available)

Grubbin:
Egg Harden (available)
Egg Electroweb (available)
Egg Mud Shot (chain with Surskit)
Egg Endure (available)

Crabrawler:
Egg Wide Guard (available)
Egg Superpower (chain with Corphish)
Egg Endeavor (available)
Egg Amnesia (chain with Corsola)

Oricorio:
Egg Pluck (available)
Egg Tailwind (available)
Egg Safeguard (TM)
Egg Captivate (available)

Cutiefly:
Egg Baton Pass (available)
Egg Skill Swap (available, creates the Spritzee->Cutiefly->Venonat chain)
Egg Speed Swap (available)
Egg Bestow (available)
Egg Moonblast (available)

Rockruff:
Egg Crush Claw (available)
Egg Fire Fang (available)
Egg Thunder Fang (available)
Egg Sucker Punch (available)
Egg Thrash (available)

Wishiwashi:
Egg Muddy Water (available)
Egg Mist (available)
Egg Water Pulse (available)
Egg Water Sport (available)

Mareanie:
Egg Stockpile (available)
Egg Swallow (available)
Egg Spit Up (available)
Egg Haze (available)

Mudbray:
Egg Body Slam (available)
Egg Double-Edge (available)
Egg Magnitude (available)
Egg Close Combat (available)
Egg Mud Bomb (available)

Dewpider:
Egg Power Split (available)
Egg Aurora Beam (available)
Egg Stockpile (available)
Egg Spit Up (available)

Fomantis:
Egg Weather Ball (available)
Egg Giga Drain (available)
Egg Aromatherapy (available)
Egg Defog (chain)
Egg Leaf Storm (available)

Morelull:
Egg Amnesia (chain)
Egg Poison Powder (available)
Egg Stun Spore (available)
Egg Growth (available)
Egg Leech Seed (available)

Salandit:
Egg Belch (available)
Egg Knock Off (available)
Egg Sand Attack (available)
Egg Snatch (available)
Egg Fake Out (available)

Stufful:
Egg Ice Punch (available)
Egg Thunder Punch (available)
Egg Force Palm (available)
Egg Endure (available)
Egg Wide Guard (available)
Egg Mega Kick (available through Mudbray)
Egg Stomping Tantrum (available)

Bounsweet:
Egg Grass Whistle (available)
Egg Synthesis (available)
Egg Play Rough (available through Comfey)
Egg Feint (available)
Egg Charm (available)
Egg Acupressure (available)

Comfey:
Egg Endure (available)
Egg Amnesia (chain)
Egg After You (available)
Egg Lucky Chant (available)

Oranguru:
Egg Extrasensory (available)
Egg Wonder Room (Tutor, Smeargle only)
Egg Psychic Terrain (available through Musharna)

Passimian:
Egg Seismic Toss (available)
Egg Vital Throw (available)
Egg Quick Guard (available)
Egg Iron Head (available)
Egg Quick Attack (available)
Egg Feint (available)

Wimpod:
Egg Spikes (available)
Egg Metal Claw (available)
Egg Wide Guard (available)
Egg Harden (available)
Egg Aqua Jet (available)

Sandygast:
Egg Amnesia (available)
Egg Destiny Bond (available)
Egg Ancient Power (available)
Egg Stockpile (available)
Egg Swallow (available)
Egg Spit Up (available)

Pyukumuku:
Egg Endure (available)
Egg Venom Drench (chain)
Egg Bestow (chain)
Egg Tickle (chain)

Komala:
Egg Charm (available)
Egg Wish (available)
Egg Play Rough (available)
Egg Sing (available)

Turtonator:
Egg Wide Guard (chain)
Egg Revenge (available)
Egg Head Smash (available)
Egg Fire Spin (available)

Togedemaru:
Egg Reversal (available)
Egg Present (available)
Egg Encore (available)
Egg Twineedle (Smeargle only)
Egg Wish (available)
Egg Fake Out (available)
Egg Tickle (available)
Egg Flail (available)
Egg Disarming Voice (available)

Mimikyu:
Egg Grudge (available)
Egg Destiny Bond (available)
Egg Curse (available)
Egg Nightmare (available)

Bruxish:
Egg Water Pulse (available)
Egg Poison Fang (available)
Egg Ice Fang (available)
Egg Rage (available)

Drampa:
Egg Hurricane (available)
Egg Dragon Rush (available)
Egg Razor Wind (available)
Egg Mist (available)
Egg Play Rough (chain)

Jangmo-o:
Egg Counter (available)
Egg Reversal (available)
Egg Dragon Breath (available)

Alolan Rattata:
Egg Screech
Egg Flame Wheel
Egg Fury Swipes
Egg Bite
Egg Counter
Egg Reversal
Egg Uproar
Egg Last Resort
Egg Me First
Egg Revenge
Egg Final Gambit

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Sandshrew:
Egg Flail
Egg Counter
Egg Rapid Spin
Egg Metal Claw
Egg Crush Claw
Egg Night Slash
Egg Mud Shot
Egg Endure
Egg Chip Away
Egg Rock Climb
Egg Rototiller

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Vulpix:
Egg Feint Attack
Egg Hypnosis
Egg Flail
Egg Spite
Egg Disable
Egg Howl
Egg Heat Wave
Egg Flare Blitz
Egg Extrasensory
Egg Power Swap
Egg Secret Power
Egg Hex
Egg Tail Slap
Egg Captivate

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Diglett:
Egg Feint Attack
Egg Screech
Egg Ancient Power
Egg Pursuit
Egg Beat Up
Egg Uproar
Egg Mud Bomb
Egg Astonish
Egg Reversal
Egg Headbutt
Egg Endure
Egg Final Gambit
Egg Memento

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Meowth:
Egg Spite
Egg Charm
Egg Hypnosis
Egg Amnesia
Egg Assist
Egg Odor Sleuth
Egg Flail
Egg Last Resort
Egg Punishment
Egg Tail Whip
Egg Snatch
Egg Iron Tail
Egg Foul Play

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Geodude:
Egg Mega Punch
Egg Block
Egg Hammer Arm
Egg Flail
Egg Curse
Egg Focus Punch
Egg Rock Climb
Egg Endure
Egg Autotomize
Egg Wide Guard

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Grimer:

Egg Haze
Egg Mean Look
Egg Lick
Egg Imprison
Egg Curse
Egg Shadow Punch
Egg Shadow Sneak
Egg Stockpile
Egg Swallow
Egg Spit Up
Egg Scary Face
Egg Acid Spray

Note: They are the same.

I'm not sure if I will add updated egg moves.

UBs are part of the Looker sidequest, and they are found in specific areas.

After that, you catch Mr. Prism in Ten Carat Hill as a roaming Pokémon.

But no, they are not like conventional roamers as they don't roam the entire region IIRC.

Edit:
New egg moves from here:
Mankey - Power Trip (egg, available through Krookodile)
Growlithe - Burn Up (egg, available through Cyndaquil-line)
Pichu - Electric Terrain (egg, available)
Sneasel -Throat Chop (egg, available through Incineroar)
Corsola -Liquidation (egg, available)
Taillow - Hurricane (egg, available)
Surskit - Lunge (egg, available through Mothim)
Carvanha - Psychic Fangs (egg, available through Bruxish)
Spinda - Spotlight (egg, Smeargle only)
Lillipup - Psychic Fangs (egg, Smeargle only)
Sandile - Power Trip (egg, available through Krookodile)
Tirtouga - Liquidation (egg, available)
Emolga - Speed Swap (egg, available through Alolan Raichu)
Litleo - Flare Blitz (egg, available)
Pancham - Power Trip (egg, available through Krookodile)
Doesn't seem like there is much room for future chains anymore.
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Couple things;
1) how does cutiefly get moonblast? No other bug type gets it, can it breed with fairy types?
2) dissapointed about togemedaru only getting twinneedle via smeargle; i really wanted him to have it, but it sounds like it'll be a real pain to accomplish.
 
noakai

noakai

Well-Known Member
willprogresivo said:
I've read some users claiming that the game, on their O3DS is very laggy. Did GF seriously not optimize this game for O3DS?? Just make it N3DS exclusive...
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I played the demo on both the N3DSXL and the old base XL, and the base XL definitely had lag issues that the N3DSXL didn't, mostly during the totem battles and the picture taking mini game. Not unplayable but definitely there.

Do we know yet how you get the Pikachu that wears Ash's hat?
 
XXD17

XXD17

Draco rex
Trainer Yusuf said:
Yes, but as far as we are concerned they literally just giant space bugs out of nowhere, as functionally speaking they are the Weedle of their own Ultra Dimension.
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As far as the Pokémon franchise is concerned, I would still consider them "legendary Pokémon" though. The population of legendaries throughout the series have been so varied that the only contingency seems to be that they are relatively powerful Pokémon that generally appear towards the end of the dex. They are somewhat "unique" and mat or may not play an important role in the story. We've had legendaries that are weak, legendaries that can breed, gendered legendaries, artificial legendaries, "mythical" Pokémon that are basically legendaries that can't be obtained in game, and now we have legendaries that can evolve. I consider ultra beasts as just another variety of legendary.

In short, legendary is a pretty big umbrella term lol
 
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hoohlover

Beginning Trainer
Ok, after reading the story text, I get this conclusion. So Zygarde would be stucked in 10% or 50% forme and can't switch if it has Power Construct???
 
Trainer Yusuf

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
^Basically speaking yes.

You just farm those Aura Break Zygardes from XY.
 
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LunalaLover

Well-Known Member
hoohlover said:
Ok, after reading the story text, I get this conclusion. So Zygarde would be stucked in 10% or 50% forme and can't switch if it has Power Construct???
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Trainer Yusuf said:
^Basically speaking yes.

You just farm those Aura Break Zygardes from XY.
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Sooo... 10% 50% and 100% are basically all standalone zygarde forms?
 
Trainer Yusuf

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
Aura Break %10, %50, and Power Construct %10, %50 are standalone Zygarde forms.

Zygarde %100 isn't. You only change forms with a PC Zygarde. If you try to pet it in Refresh, the game just defaults to a Pikachu(and you can only do this by hacking, of course).
 
Bus

Bus

Well-Known Member
Trainer Yusuf said:
Aura Break %10, %50, and Power Construct %10, %50 are standalone Zygarde forms.

Zygarde %100 isn't. You only change forms with a PC Zygarde. If you try to pet it in Refresh, the game just defaults to a Pikachu(and you can only do this by hacking, of course).
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No wonder Ash's Pikachu was so strong...it was secretly a Power Construct Zygarde this whole time!
 
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Happy Hydreigon

Kahuna Mikah
A few questions for people who know more about me in the games:

1. where is the day care?
2. Are all the captains battleable post game?
3. There are a few trainers on the list of battles which don't have a name and have a level 5 Yungoos, are these placeholders for the future?
 
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hoohlover

Beginning Trainer
Trainer Yusuf said:
Aura Break %10, %50, and Power Construct %10, %50 are standalone Zygarde forms.

Zygarde %100 isn't. You only change forms with a PC Zygarde. If you try to pet it in Refresh, the game just defaults to a Pikachu(and you can only do this by hacking, of course).
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100% only appear in battle. So I'll just keep a Power Construct 10% and 50%. Make an Aura Break 10% and keep the one in XY/ORAS for collecting purpose.

Btw, do we get more than 1 Beast Ball? I want to catch them all.
 
Orphalesion

Orphalesion

Well-Known Member
willprogresivo said:
Turtonator is Sun, Drampa is Moon. I'm GTSing Turtonators as soon as the 18th starts... I need my Grampa in Sun, damn it!
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Thank you for filling in the two missing ones :)

Well truth be told I don't care for neither Turtonator nor Drampa, but I want A. Vulpix and Absorption. Plus I also like Lycanrock Midday better than Midnight. It's the weird mane ytthat ruins middnight for me.
 
Trainer Yusuf

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
Trainer Yusuf

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/29806821/

After playing through the post-game of Moon, here is what I know about Necrozma.
1) You are able to battle with Necrozma after you finish the UB side-quest with Looker and Anabel. It's mentioned in several points that it is separate from the Ultra Beasts but that doesn't mean it's not one.
2) During the battle with Necrozma in Ten Carat Hill, Solgaleo and Lunala's battle theme played instead of the typical Ultra Beast battle theme. This may imply it has some connection with them, the third legendary, perhaps?

"It all comes together."
 
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