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Pokémon Sun & Moon Discovery Discussion Thread [Contains Story Spoilers]

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DrakeKoryu

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Maybe it will be an update, idk really but it does seem weird in fact :/

By the way, do we know if there are any move tutor in the game? (sorry if this has been already asked)
 
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clbgolden12

Alolan (and soon to be Galarian) trainer
No nat dex is really mind boggling, on one hand they increasingly emphasize older Pokemon (because of #KantoNostalgia or some other BS) and then they go ahead and cut out the National Dex,leaving the majority of old Pokemon without a dex entry in Sun/Moon?

Doesn't that apprach seem a little bit...at odds with itself?
Wait... No National Dex?

But didn't we see the option for one in this trailer:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLBE2D9BnJJUrQ4Q5CCJmUiOX2PyeOtLYz&v=Nc03tXikfJs
 

clbgolden12

Alolan (and soon to be Galarian) trainer
Naw, In game it says.

> Alola pokedex,

> melemele

> Akala

>ula'ula

> Poni

>pokedex evaluation
That's... So weird. There's no Pokédex data for non-Alolan native 'Mon either?
 

Excitable Boy

is a metaphor
Maybe it will be an update, idk really but it does seem weird in fact :/

By the way, do we know if there are any move tutor in the game? (sorry if this has been already asked)

Only for Draco Meteor, elemental Hyper Beams, and Pledges.
 

R_N

Well-Known Member
Anyways, here's the tentative unavailable Pokémon list:
Kanto:

1.Bulbasaur
2. Ivysaur
3. Venusaur
4. Charmander
5. Charmeleon
6. Squirtle
7. Wartortle
8. Blastoise
9.Weedle
10. Kakuna
11. Beedrill
12. Pidgey
13. Pidgeotto
14. Pidgeot
15. Regular Rattata
16. Regular Raticate
17. Ekans
18. Arbok
19. Regular Raichu
20. Regular Sandshrew
21. Regular Sandslash
22. Nidoran Female
23. Nidorina
24. Nidoqueen
25. Nidoran Male
26. Nidorino
27. Nidoking
28. Regular Vulpix
29. Regular Ninetales
30. Oddish
31. Gloom
32. Vileplume
33. Venonat
34. Venomoth
35. Regular Diglett
36. Regular Dugtrio
37. Regular Meowth
38. Regular Persian
39. Psyduck
40. Golduck
41. Regular Geodude
42. Regular Graveler
43. Regular Golem
44. Ponyta
45. Rapidash
46. Farfetch'd
47. Doduo
48. Dodrio
49. Seel
50. Dewgong
51. Regular Grimer
52. Regular Muk
53. Onix
54. Krabby
55. Kingler
56. Voltorb
57. Electrode
58. Regular Exeggutor
59. Regular Marowak
60. Hitmonlee
61. Hitmonchan
62. Lickitung
63. Koffing
64. Weezing
65. Tangela
66. Goldeen
67. Mr. Mime
68. Jynx
69. Zapdos
70. Articuno
71. Moltres
72. Mewtwo
73. Mew

Johto:
1. Sentret
2. Furret
3. Hoothoot
4. Noctowl
5. Natu
6. Xatu
7. Mareep
8. Flaaffy
9. Ampharos
10. Bellossom
11. Hoppip
12. Skiploom
13. Jumpluff
14. Aipom
15. Sunkern
16. Sunflora
17. Yanma
18. Wooper
19. Quagsire
20. Unown
21. Wobbuffet
22. Girafarig
23. Pineco
24. Forretress
25. Dunsparce
26. Gligar
27. Steelix
28. Qwilfish
29. Shuckle
30. Heracross
31. Sneasel
32. Teddiursa
33. Ursaring
34. Slugma
35. Magcargo
36. Remoraid
37. Octillery
38. Mantine
39. Houndour
40. Houndoom
41. Phanpy
42. Donphan
43. Stantler
44. Tyrogue
45. Hitmontop
46. Smoochum
47. Raikou
48. Entei
49. Suicune
50. Larvitar
51. Pupitar
52. Tyranitar
53. Ho-Oh
54. Lugia
55. Celebi

Hoenn:

1.Treecko
2. Grovyle
3. Sceptile
4. Torchic
5. Combusken
6. Blaziken
7. Mudkip
8. Marshtomp
9. Swampert
10. Poochyena
11. Mightyena
12. Zigzagoon
13. Linoone
14. Wurmple
15. Silcoon
16. Beautifly
17. Cascoon
18. Dustox
19. Lotad
20. Lombre
21. Ludicolo
22. Seedot
23. Nuzleaf
24. Shiftry
25. Taillow
26. Swellow
27. Ralts
28. Kirlia
29. Gardevoir
30. Shroomish
31. Breloom
32. Nincada
33. Ninjask
34. Shedinja
35. Whismur
36. Loudred
37. Exploud
38. Skitty
39. Delcatty
40. Mawile
41. Aron
42. Lairon
43. Aggron
44. Meditite
45. Medicham
46. Electrike
47. Manectric
48. Plusle
49. Minun
50. Volbeat
51. Illumise
52. Gulpin
53. Swalot
54. Numel
55. Camerupt
56. Spoink
57. Grumpig
58. Cacnea
59. Cacturne
60. Swablu
61. Altaria
62. Zangoose
63. Seviper
64. Lunatone
65. Solrock
66. Corphish
67. Crawdaunt
68. Baltoy
69. Claydol
70. Kecleon
71. Shuppet
72. Banette
73. Duskull
74. Dusclops
75. Tropius
76. Chimecho
77. Wynaut
78. Clamperl
79. Huntail
80. Gorebyss
81. Regirock
82. Regice
83. Registeel
84. Latias
85. Latios
86. Kyogre
87. Groudon
88. Rayquaza
89. Jirachi
90. Deoxys

Sinnoh:
1. Turtwig
2. Grotle
3. Torterra
4. Chimchar
5. Monferno
6. Infernape
7. Piplup
8. Prinplup
9. Empoleon
10. Bidoof
11. Bibarel
12. Kricketot
13. Kricketune
14. Burmy
15. Wormadam
16. Mothim
17. Combee
18. Vespiquen
19. Pachirisu
20. Buizel
21. Floatzel
22. Cherubi
23. Cherrim
24. Ambipom
25. Buneary
26. Lopunny
27. Glameow
28. Purugly
29. Chingling
30. Stunky
31. Skuntank
32. Bronzor
33. Bronzong
34. Mime Jr.
35. Chatot
36. Spiritomb
37. Hippopotas
38. Hippowdon
39. Skorupi
40. Drapion
41. Croagunk
42. Toxicroak
43. Carnivine
44. Mantyke
45. Snover
46. Abomasnow
47. Lickilicky
48. Tangrowth
49. Yanmega
50. Gliscor
51. Gallade
52. Dusknoir
53. Rotom
54. Uxie
55. Mesprit
56. Azelf
57. Dialga
58. Palkia
59. Heatran
60. Regigigas
61. Giratina
62. Cresselia
63. Phione
64. Manaphy
65. Darkrai
66. Shaymin
67. Arceus

Unova:
1. Victini
2. Patrat
3. Watchog
4. Purrloin
5. Liepard
6. Pansage
7. Simisage
8. Pansear
9. Simisear
10. Panpour
11. Simipour
12. Munna
13. Musharna
14. Pidove
15. Tranquill
16. Unfezant
17. Blitzle
18. Zebstrika
19. Woobat
20. Swoobat
21. Drilbur
22. Excadrill
23. Audino
24. Tympole
25. Palpitoad
26. Seismitoad
27. Sawk
28. Throh
29. Basculin
30. Darumaka
31. Darmanitan
32. Maractus
33. Dwebble
34. Crustle
35. Scraggy
36. Scrafty
37. Sigilyph
38. Yamask
39. Cofagrigus
40. Zorua
41. Zoroark
42. Minccino
43. Cinccino
44. Ducklett
45. Swanna
46. Deerling
47. Sawsbuck
48. Karrablast
49. Escavalier
50. Foongus
51. Amoonguss
52. Frillish
53. Jellicent
54. Joltik
55. Galvantula
56. Ferroseed
57. Ferrothorn
58. Elgyem
59. Beheeyem
60. Cubchoo
61. Beartic
62. Cryogonal
63. Shelmet
64. Accelgor
65. Stunfisk
66. Mienfoo
67. Mienshao
68. Druddigon
69. Golett
70. Golurk
71. Pawniard
72. Bisharp
73. Bouffalant
74. Heatmor
75. Durant
76. Larvesta
77. Volcarona
78. Cobalion
79. Terrakion
80. Virizion
81. Tornadus
82. Thundurus
83. Reshiram
84. Zekrom
85. Landorus
86. Kyurem
87. Keldeo
88. Meloetta
89. Genesect

Kalos:
1. Chespin
2. Quilladin
3. Chesnaught
4. Fennekin
5. Braixen
6. Delphox
7. Froakie
8. Frogadier
9. Greninja *(Besides Ash-Greninja)
10. Bunnelby
11. Diggersby
12. Scatterbug
13. Spewpa
14. Vivillon
15. Litleo
16. Pyroar
17. Flabébé
18. Floette
19. Florges
20. Skiddo
21. Gogoat
22. Furfrou
23. Espurr
24. Meowstic
25. Spritzee
26. Aromatisse
27. Swirlix
28. Slurpuff
29. Inkay
30. Malamar
31. Binacle
32. Barbaracle
33. Skrelp
34. Dragalge
35. Clauncher
36. Clawitzer
37. Helioptile
38. Heliolisk
39. Hawlucha
40. Dedenne
41. Pumpkaboo
42. Gourgeist
43. Bergmite
44. Avalugg
45. Noibat
46. Noivern
47. Xerneas
48. Yveltal
49. Diancie
50. Hoopa
51. Volcanion

Note: Ash-Greninja is non-breedable.

wait hi going back to this

rotom isn't available at all.
This is it. This is the most drop dead most baffling thing in the game.
 

Julia Artemis

Well-Known Member
Has anyone talked about how good Shore Up will be? "Heal half of Max HP, more in sand" So crazy. Palossand is going to be ridiculous looking at it's move list, with Sandstorm is going to be so hard to kill!
 
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Stone Dragon

Well-Known Member
Is there a good route to hatch egg at? Maybe something similar to Gen 6
 

clbgolden12

Alolan (and soon to be Galarian) trainer
Quick question. Is there a fire truck (notably like one from the first teaser) that eventually does something in the game?
 

R_N

Well-Known Member
It is able to float though, so she may not actually have truly been lifting it.

well it
dies
at one point so that might be hard

e: The real answer is like most things in pokemon you're not supposed to think about it too hard
 
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