Pokémon Sun & Moon Discovery Discussion Thread [Contains Story Spoilers]

[Yunova]

Wait, does that mean that Greninja isnt part of Alolan Regional Dex?

Most starters aren't part of the regional dexes. No surprise there.

As for the leaks, I don't think I have been this disappointed. Ever.

Such a waste of great potential.

 

[TRG]

BEASTPOD might be my new favorite gen 7 design. Wimpod is officially the new Magikarp.

 

[Darthleapyous]

Shiny Ultra Beasts makes me think they are catch-able.

 

[yefluke]

it should be ...
71 New Pokémon
2 Unconfirm legendary forms (if it is just form or pre evo)
8 UBs
18 Alola Formes
3 New forms
0 New Mega Evolutions

 

[PrinceOfFacade]

Another thing is that there are 3 water pokemon besides popplio, and yet none of them evolve...one has a form. Like I really want to have a full team of new pokemon, but gamefreak is kind of making it hard to. I didn't even have a full kalos team in xy.

Doesn't Wimpod evolve?

Also, I count at least four Water-types besides the Popplio line: Wishiwashi, Wimpod, Pyukumuku, and Bruxish.

 

[roserade the warrior]

Well yeah, did you not read my post entirely? I said that those two make older Pokemon that felt incomplete look fine.

See, I wasn't upset about not getting something in Gen 6.(Besides some megas, but that was just some personal views, everyone has those) I didn't have any issues with Gen 6 besides the awful story and progression.

Right now, I look at the Alolan Forms combined with the new Pokemon.(Assuming this is all of them.) XY had a total of... 71 new Pokemon and 28 Megas, in ORAS we got 20 more Megas, so if you count all of that together that's 119 new things. Not counting Megas from ORAS we have 99 new things. Gen 7 if this is everything, like I said, introduces 17 new Alola Forms, 81 new Pokemon. That equals 97 new things. That my friend, is a step down from Gen 6.

What I'm upset about is the fact in this small amount, they threw in obviously lazy designs. Gen 6 went all out with the designs of Megas and the new Pokemon, each and every one of them, hell, I'd say Mega Kangaskhan is totally excusable in comparison to some of the Alolan forms because it actually changed the design of the baby a lot.

What I said is that instead of giving us some of those lazy Alolan Forms, they could've expanded on some of the new Pokemon, or even given us just new Pokemon in general. They had the time. They didn't need to model 700+ Pokemon again and completely upgrade to a new engine.

Mega Ampharos, Lucario and venusaur beg to differ on being "new" designs. Also the MegaLatis, were really lazy: one for the both! Really? Also, I dont know if you counted UltraBeast, if not, that would add to 105 (8 of them). In any case, is true that some designs of alola forms were very lazy... well, MOST designs. The only ones I can really say they put a lot of effort into are sandslash, ninetails, raticate and maybe golem.

 

[Wulava]

From the black images from the dataminer I think there might be 7 totem pokemon in total

Only 6. Gumshoos and Raticate are version-exclusives.
Strange though... I guess Wishiwashi in Lana's trial isn't considered a Totem.

Or I would assume that not all trials would have us battle Totems...

 

[yuoke]

Doesn't Wimpod evolve?

Oh right I forgot it was part water.

Well hoping that sea urchin is part water because I actually like that design.

 

[2dtyplosion]

Another thing is that there are 3 water pokemon besides popplio, and yet none of them evolve...one has a form. Like I really want to have a full team of new pokemon, but gamefreak is kind of making it hard to. I didn't even have a full kalos team in xy.

Same here. I ended up using Ferrothorn in x and y because of lack of new pokemon. I'm already using 2 1 stagers in my party (pom pom and Mimikyu) and i want my last spot for a steel type, but from the looks of it the only other steel type besides Togedemaru is that anchor (another 1 stager). I really don't want 3 single stage pokemon on my team.

 

[Shine]

From the black images from the dataminer I think there might be 7 totem pokemon in total

Assuming Wishiwashi is a totem, I find it weird that there's no blank spot next to it. Yet version exclusive like Raticate and Gumshoos both have blank spot next to them.

Also, no Fire-type totem?

 

[BLADEDGE]

so, Other than Dartix's Final Stage (Since it's GRS/FLY), Do we have the final Typings for the other 2?

 

[JVLightningLover]

so, Other than Dartix's Final Stage (Since it's GRS/FLY), Do we have the final Typings for the other 2?

Nope. No Typings have been datamined.

 

[Wulava]

One thing I noticed is that the city theme has a night version.

 

[WolfCypher]

Another thing is that there are 3 water pokemon besides popplio, and yet none of them evolve...one has a form. Like I really want to have a full team of new pokemon, but gamefreak is kind of making it hard to. I didn't even have a full kalos team in xy.

Wimpod........

 

[1rkhachatryan]

So what the heck is the secret with the starters and Rockruff if not for the split evos?? Unless the Prof. is giving us a Rockruff as well, I can't see what else it could be.

 

[Huckleberry]

*sigh* Alright, it's bed time. I, for one, am very excited about this Gen and I can't wait for more details on the new pokemon. I don't understand the seemingly popular philosophy that a person's favorite pokemon were creative and required a lot of effort and the ones they don't like were just lazy and indicative of a quickly drying idea pool, but apparently I'm one of a small minority there, so I hope that most of you are simply hindsighting again and will eventually find things you like about the new stuff.

 

[Xuxuba]

So what the heck is the secret with the starters and Rockruff if not for the split evos?? Unless the Prof. is giving us a Rockruff as well, I can't see what else it could be.

That was a mistranslation issue according to Joe Merrick.

https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/788240255820374016

 

[yefluke]

*sigh* Alright, it's bed time. I, for one, am very excited about this Gen and I can't wait for more details on the new pokemon. I don't understand the seemingly popular philosophy that a person's favorite pokemon were creative and required a lot of effort and the ones they don't like were just lazy and indicative of a quickly drying idea pool, but apparently I'm one of a small minority there, so I hope that most of you are simply hindsighting again and will eventually find things you like about the new stuff.

this this this!

 

[B. Thunder Tiger]

That was a mistranslation issue according to Joe Merrick.

1rkhachatryan was referring to the secret in general, not the mistranslation of them sharing one.

 

[yuoke]

*sigh* Alright, it's bed time. I, for one, am very excited about this Gen and I can't wait for more details on the new pokemon. I don't understand the seemingly popular philosophy that a person's favorite pokemon were creative and required a lot of effort and the ones they don't like were just lazy and indicative of a quickly drying idea pool, but apparently I'm one of a small minority there, so I hope that most of you are simply hindsighting again and will eventually find things you like about the new stuff.

Where did anyone say that designs they don't like were lazy or uncreative? That really isn't an issue here. It's more an issue of disappointment and feeling of missed potential. If anything I personally am (or was) giving respect with liking so many designs.