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Pokémon Sun & Moon Discovery Discussion Thread [Contains Story Spoilers]

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Bus

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Yes, but as far as we are concerned they literally just giant space bugs out of nowhere, as functionally speaking they are the Weedle of their own Ultra Dimension.

That's a strong-*** weedle!

So..I know its been asked, but I cant seem to find an answer...are they essentially like recurring roaming legends? They can just constantly be found at extremely low levels throughout Alola during post game?
 
I'm going to ask again, regarding the story, how is it? Does it top Black/White's? Thanks.

I think something like that is completely subjective, and from what I've dug up on the plot (almost all of it I'd say) I'd say that without playing the game it is almost impossible to tell. For example, the story text is all over the place, and the voice of a character and surroundings really do aid in telling the story.

But, from what I've gathered, the story comes pretty close to Gen V in terms of quality, and the fact that it takes smaller themes introduced in Gen VI and expanded on them does make me think that Gen VI, VII and perhaps even a few other generations are building up to something massive. Sort of starting to feel like a cinematic universe in my opinion.
 

Nunn

Pokermanz Meister!
Yes, but as far as we are concerned they literally just giant space bugs out of nowhere, as functionally speaking they are the Weedle of their own Ultra Dimension.

The same could be said about the mascots though, just beasts from another world.
 

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
Rowlet:
Egg Curse (Chain)
Egg Confuse Ray (available)
Egg Ominous Wind (available)
Egg Haze (available)
Egg Baton Pass (available)
Egg Defog (available)

Litten:
Egg Nasty Plot (available)
Egg Body Slam (available)
Egg Crunch (available)
Egg Fake Out (available)
Egg Revenge (available)
Egg Heat Wave (available)

Popplio:
Egg Charm (available)
Egg Amnesia (available)
Egg Aqua Ring (available)
Egg Aromatic Mist (Smeargle only)
Egg Perish Song (available)
Egg Wonder Room (Tutor, Smeargle only)

Pikipek:
Egg Brave Bird (available)
Egg Boomburst (available)
Egg Mirror Move (available)
Egg Tailwind (available)
Egg Uproar (available)

Yungoos:
Egg Revenge (available)
Egg Last Resort (available)

Grubbin:
Egg Harden (available)
Egg Electroweb (available)
Egg Mud Shot (chain with Surskit)
Egg Endure (available)

Crabrawler:
Egg Wide Guard (available)
Egg Superpower (chain with Corphish)
Egg Endeavor (available)
Egg Amnesia (chain with Corsola)

Oricorio:
Egg Pluck (available)
Egg Tailwind (available)
Egg Safeguard (TM)
Egg Captivate (available)

Cutiefly:
Egg Baton Pass (available)
Egg Skill Swap (available, creates the Spritzee->Cutiefly->Venonat chain)
Egg Speed Swap (available)
Egg Bestow (available)
Egg Moonblast (available)

Rockruff:
Egg Crush Claw (available)
Egg Fire Fang (available)
Egg Thunder Fang (available)
Egg Sucker Punch (available)
Egg Thrash (available)

Wishiwashi:
Egg Muddy Water (available)
Egg Mist (available)
Egg Water Pulse (available)
Egg Water Sport (available)

Mareanie:
Egg Stockpile (available)
Egg Swallow (available)
Egg Spit Up (available)
Egg Haze (available)

Mudbray:
Egg Body Slam (available)
Egg Double-Edge (available)
Egg Magnitude (available)
Egg Close Combat (available)
Egg Mud Bomb (available)

Dewpider:
Egg Power Split (available)
Egg Aurora Beam (available)
Egg Stockpile (available)
Egg Spit Up (available)

Fomantis:
Egg Weather Ball (available)
Egg Giga Drain (available)
Egg Aromatherapy (available)
Egg Defog (chain)
Egg Leaf Storm (available)

Morelull:
Egg Amnesia (chain)
Egg Poison Powder (available)
Egg Stun Spore (available)
Egg Growth (available)
Egg Leech Seed (available)

Salandit:
Egg Belch (available)
Egg Knock Off (available)
Egg Sand Attack (available)
Egg Snatch (available)
Egg Fake Out (available)

Stufful:
Egg Ice Punch (available)
Egg Thunder Punch (available)
Egg Force Palm (available)
Egg Endure (available)
Egg Wide Guard (available)
Egg Mega Kick (available through Mudbray)
Egg Stomping Tantrum (available)

Bounsweet:
Egg Grass Whistle (available)
Egg Synthesis (available)
Egg Play Rough (available through Comfey)
Egg Feint (available)
Egg Charm (available)
Egg Acupressure (available)

Comfey:
Egg Endure (available)
Egg Amnesia (chain)
Egg After You (available)
Egg Lucky Chant (available)

Oranguru:
Egg Extrasensory (available)
Egg Wonder Room (Tutor, Smeargle only)
Egg Psychic Terrain (available through Musharna)

Passimian:
Egg Seismic Toss (available)
Egg Vital Throw (available)
Egg Quick Guard (available)
Egg Iron Head (available)
Egg Quick Attack (available)
Egg Feint (available)

Wimpod:
Egg Spikes (available)
Egg Metal Claw (available)
Egg Wide Guard (available)
Egg Harden (available)
Egg Aqua Jet (available)

Sandygast:
Egg Amnesia (available)
Egg Destiny Bond (available)
Egg Ancient Power (available)
Egg Stockpile (available)
Egg Swallow (available)
Egg Spit Up (available)

Pyukumuku:
Egg Endure (available)
Egg Venom Drench (chain)
Egg Bestow (chain)
Egg Tickle (chain)

Komala:
Egg Charm (available)
Egg Wish (available)
Egg Play Rough (available)
Egg Sing (available)

Turtonator:
Egg Wide Guard (chain)
Egg Revenge (available)
Egg Head Smash (available)
Egg Fire Spin (available)

Togedemaru:
Egg Reversal (available)
Egg Present (available)
Egg Encore (available)
Egg Twineedle (Smeargle only)
Egg Wish (available)
Egg Fake Out (available)
Egg Tickle (available)
Egg Flail (available)
Egg Disarming Voice (available)

Mimikyu:
Egg Grudge (available)
Egg Destiny Bond (available)
Egg Curse (available)
Egg Nightmare (available)

Bruxish:
Egg Water Pulse (available)
Egg Poison Fang (available)
Egg Ice Fang (available)
Egg Rage (available)

Drampa:
Egg Hurricane (available)
Egg Dragon Rush (available)
Egg Razor Wind (available)
Egg Mist (available)
Egg Play Rough (chain)

Jangmo-o:
Egg Counter (available)
Egg Reversal (available)
Egg Dragon Breath (available)

Alolan Rattata:
Egg Screech
Egg Flame Wheel
Egg Fury Swipes
Egg Bite
Egg Counter
Egg Reversal
Egg Uproar
Egg Last Resort
Egg Me First
Egg Revenge
Egg Final Gambit

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Sandshrew:
Egg Flail
Egg Counter
Egg Rapid Spin
Egg Metal Claw
Egg Crush Claw
Egg Night Slash
Egg Mud Shot
Egg Endure
Egg Chip Away
Egg Rock Climb
Egg Rototiller

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Vulpix:
Egg Feint Attack
Egg Hypnosis
Egg Flail
Egg Spite
Egg Disable
Egg Howl
Egg Heat Wave
Egg Flare Blitz
Egg Extrasensory
Egg Power Swap
Egg Secret Power
Egg Hex
Egg Tail Slap
Egg Captivate

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Diglett:
Egg Feint Attack
Egg Screech
Egg Ancient Power
Egg Pursuit
Egg Beat Up
Egg Uproar
Egg Mud Bomb
Egg Astonish
Egg Reversal
Egg Headbutt
Egg Endure
Egg Final Gambit
Egg Memento

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Meowth:
Egg Spite
Egg Charm
Egg Hypnosis
Egg Amnesia
Egg Assist
Egg Odor Sleuth
Egg Flail
Egg Last Resort
Egg Punishment
Egg Tail Whip
Egg Snatch
Egg Iron Tail
Egg Foul Play

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Geodude:
Egg Mega Punch
Egg Block
Egg Hammer Arm
Egg Flail
Egg Curse
Egg Focus Punch
Egg Rock Climb
Egg Endure
Egg Autotomize
Egg Wide Guard

Note: They are the same.

Alolan Grimer:

Egg Haze
Egg Mean Look
Egg Lick
Egg Imprison
Egg Curse
Egg Shadow Punch
Egg Shadow Sneak
Egg Stockpile
Egg Swallow
Egg Spit Up
Egg Scary Face
Egg Acid Spray

Note: They are the same.

I'm not sure if I will add updated egg moves.
That's a strong-*** weedle!

So..I know its been asked, but I cant seem to find an answer...are they essentially like recurring roaming legends? They can just constantly be found at extremely low levels throughout Alola during post game?
UBs are part of the Looker sidequest, and they are found in specific areas.

After that, you catch Mr. Prism in Ten Carat Hill as a roaming Pokémon.

But no, they are not like conventional roamers as they don't roam the entire region IIRC.

Edit:
New egg moves from here:
Mankey - Power Trip (egg, available through Krookodile)
Growlithe - Burn Up (egg, available through Cyndaquil-line)
Pichu - Electric Terrain (egg, available)
Sneasel -Throat Chop (egg, available through Incineroar)
Corsola -Liquidation (egg, available)
Taillow - Hurricane (egg, available)
Surskit - Lunge (egg, available through Mothim)
Carvanha - Psychic Fangs (egg, available through Bruxish)
Spinda - Spotlight (egg, Smeargle only)
Lillipup - Psychic Fangs (egg, Smeargle only)
Sandile - Power Trip (egg, available through Krookodile)
Tirtouga - Liquidation (egg, available)
Emolga - Speed Swap (egg, available through Alolan Raichu)
Litleo - Flare Blitz (egg, available)
Pancham - Power Trip (egg, available through Krookodile)
Doesn't seem like there is much room for future chains anymore.
 
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Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
Guys little question.
Cosplay Pikachu is present ingame?

No, it is removed from game data.

The same could be said about the mascots though, just beasts from another world.

That doesn't really contradict what I have and others on 4chan have been saying ;).

Though Cosmog suffers from the Kal-El syndrome of being grown in a very hospitable environment, which makes it stronger than regular UBs.
 

Wingulltrainer

Well-Known Member
Something i'm wondering about; how soon will we be able to wonder trade in the games? With the time differences in sun and moon, will we still be able to trade between games?
 

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
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LoveMcQueen5683

Well-Known Member
I heard the Apricorn Balls are back. Does anyone know how they are obtained? Do you buy them? Do you find them around the region or does someone give them to you?

Apparentky alolan oak gives you one and another is found by an observatory. Hopefully there's an actual shop somewhere in game
 

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO

LunalaLover

Well-Known Member
Apparentky alolan oak gives you one and another is found by an observatory. Hopefully there's an actual shop somewhere in game

Maybe it's found on the festival plaza
 

Stone Dragon

Well-Known Member
Are horde encounters and o-powers back? If not, any information about a good alternative?
 

Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
Are horde encounters and o-powers back? If not, any information about a good alternative?

Wild Pokémon summon allies with higher chance of high IVs and shinies.

Hordes are dead. You train EVs through other methods.

O-Powers are gone but I don't know what replaces them.
 

Pokemon Fan

Knuckle Trainer
Do you know if the breeding system has changed anything?
All I've heard is that pokemon no longer level up or learn moves while at the breeding location, which is honestly convenient so you don't have to worry about your stud losing moves you may want to breed onto other pokemon later.

Wild Pokémon summon allies with higher chance of high IVs and shinies.
Is it too early to tell if there is also a chance of getting hidden abilities this way?
 
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Trainer Yusuf

VolcaniNO
Is it too early to tell if there is also a chance of getting hidden abilities this way?

Probably not, but nobody said anything about HAs or Poké Pelego.

There is a lot of stuff people haven't dug through, and might not dig through until the official release.
 
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